Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 CTA tweeted this this morning on their twitter i find it really interesting to read about https://betterstreetsforbuses.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 19, 2022 Report Share Posted April 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: CTA tweeted this this morning on their twitter i find it really interesting to read about https://betterstreetsforbuses.com it's interesting. but the only question is if CDOT is going to do something this time. The corridors are basically the same backbone network, and there was the prior wrangling over how hard it is to install TSP in Chicago with all the obsolete wiring. A few bump outs aren't going to accomplish much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Related, Lightfoot now wants an ordinance called "Smart Streets" to use CTA bus cameras and other cameras to ticket cars that block bus lanes, bike lanes. crosswalks or loading zones (Sun-Times). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Busjack said: Related, Lightfoot now wants an ordinance called "Smart Streets" to use CTA bus cameras and other cameras to ticket cars that block bus lanes, bike lanes. crosswalks or loading zones (Sun-Times). That a be a good idea cause the city going to get alot of tickets due to their law breaking officers parking in bus stop zones on 63rd & cottage on Harrison & kedize & all over the city even crook County gone get tickets due to their gangmembers parking in the bus stop zone at their post on chicago & loreal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 48 minutes ago, Shannoncvpi said: That a be a good idea cause the city going to get alot of tickets due to their law breaking officers parking in bus stop zones on 63rd & cottage on Harrison & kedize & all over the city even crook County gone get tickets due to their gangmembers parking in the bus stop zone at their post on chicago & loreal There was a reference in the article to Quote Christina Whitehouse, founder of the advocacy group Bike Lane Uprising, said ... "City officials and employees are the “most egregious” offenders.." However, since the ticket would go to the owner rather than the unknown driver, the city would be ticketing itself, unless it also implemented a disciplinary system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Busjack said: There was a reference in the article to However, since the ticket would go to the owner rather than the unknown driver, the city would be ticketing itself, unless it also implemented a disciplinary system. Well they will know who the sqaud was assigned to at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 CTA Press Release pointing to the Better Streets for Buses website. Basically, though, it is a toolbox of known treatments, and certain corridors get priority consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcmetro Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 We'll see if anything actually comes of this. A lot of these treatments are already being considered in most CDOT projects. Can't imagine this results in anything material like BRT. Maybe CTA will consider these important corridors to add service to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tcmetro said: Maybe CTA will consider these important corridors to add service to. In that some corridors appear to be defined by bus routes (i.e, North DLSD includes Marine Dr. and Inner LSD, S. Michigan includes Indiana), and the routes on those corridors are indicated (including Pace 352 and 381, which Pace plans to make Pulse), this seems more an effort to get existing buses through more efficiently. Back to the issue of artics, I don't see how bump-outs help them, at least on leaving the bus. On the "lot lot of these treatments are already being considered in most CDOT projects" point, it noted "queue jump lanes on Clark Street to be installed as part of other streetscape improvements; and bus boarding islands along Milwaukee Avenue and Laramie Avenue." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Busjack said: CTA Press Release pointing to the Better Streets for Buses website. Basically, though, it is a toolbox of known treatments, and certain corridors get priority consideration. 18 minutes ago, Tcmetro said: We'll see if anything actually comes of this. A lot of these treatments are already being considered in most CDOT projects. Can't imagine this results in anything material like BRT. Maybe CTA will consider these important corridors to add service to. 8 minutes ago, Busjack said: In that some corridors appear to be defined by bus routes (i.e, North DLSD includes Marine Dr. and Inner LSD, S. Michigan includes Indiana), and the routes on those corridors are indicated (including Pace 352 and 381, which Pace plans to make Pulse), this seems more an effort to get existing buses through more efficiently. Back to the issue of artics, I don't see how bump-outs help them, at least on leaving the bus. On the "lot lot of these treatments are already being considered in most CDOT projects" point, it noted "queue jump lanes on Clark Street to be installed as part of other streetscape improvements; and bus boarding islands along Milwaukee Avenue and Laramie Avenue." Well the work that's already been done on 79th does seem to help at the dan Ryan. Chicago I need to sit downtown more and observe before I speak on the improvements between Michigan and Ogden. Milwaukee's boarding islands seem like straight overkill because there's no lane for traffic to pass. So one bus with a long dwell Is basically holding up every bus behind it. I can see bump outs working on maybe western and south Halsted seeing as they are multi lane stretches. Personally on all the narrower streets I would focus on putting queue jumps where ever they make sense and calling it a day. You can't do anything else on these stretches without holding up the street which could potentially lead to impatient drivers (and accidents resulting from the road rage and rushing to get around). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcmetro Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 In Minneapolis and Seattle they've increasingly designed bus stops to block traffic completely if buses stop on both sides of the road. It's not as big of an issue as those types of stops are on pay-before-you-board lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 We've an update here (including the document enclosed).. Very few mentions of Pulse, and BRT seems to be downplayed for "further discussion" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, MetroShadow said: We've an update here (including the document enclosed).. Very few mentions of Pulse, and BRT seems to be downplayed for "further discussion" I got a "AccessDeniedRequest has expired" message. It's not surprising that Pulse isn't mentioned, as it is a Pace project, but at least CTA and CDOT are cooperating on Halsted and 95th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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