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[trainman8119]

Anyway, the search for 4149 vs. 2029 becomes that much more difficult.

If they are not here yet, I can just see this situation arise:

CTA5750 at the Tollway/Kennedy merge: and here they come, racing onto the Kennedy

4149 slightly in the lead, 2029 making some hay as they depart Cumberland....

and then Busjack downtown near Division Street:

....2029 is in the lead, wait it looks as 4149 may have broke apart, oops that is an

old NABI deadheading from NP to 103, no it is 4149 speeding up to win the race !!!!

and 2029 is declared the winner on a technicality because it got to its garage before 4149...but then 2029 is disqualified because CTA decided to move it 3 times as the execs screwed up again !!!

:lol:

[Busjack]

and then Busjack downtown near Division Street:

Nope, especially if 4149 is delivered directly to North Park, and 2029 shows up at 103rd, as expected. Maybe if it is delivered directly to C, but still would lose under those terms.

I meant virtually, anyway (since this is the BusTracker topic). :lol:

[Busjack]

So that's what I look like on the 33! (I had 1079 this morning)

If we had gotten the s=true option working, we would have known your badge number.

Also, so much for cta5555's statement that under 1082 would be moved out--at least hasn't happened yet!. :rolleyes:

[pudgym29]

Is there a good possibility that CTA is delaying or holding back the last bus of each series in order to formally present them at a media event?

[Busjack]

BTW... it looks like the blue background problem has been fixed, as sht6131 projected.

(Note 4148 in this image, giving rise to the contest comment.)

[jacksone44]

Is there a good possibility that CTA is delaying or holding back the last bus of each series in order to formally present them at a media event?

What would be the purpose of a media event for this?

[pudgym29]

Bus Tracker is supposed to help prevent situations like this (#65 Grand)

Last night at 9:50 pm, returning from the C.E.R.A. meeting, I waited 25 minutes for a southbound #54 Cicero bus at Montrose; and then there were three buses in eleven minutes. (I boarded the Flxible; and then espied two New Flyers northbound at Belle Plaine, & Irving Park.)

I hope this gets remedied soon.

[pudgym29]

This is what you really do not want to glimpse when you check your route on Bus Tracker.

[Busjack]

This is what you really do not want to glimpse when you check your route on Bus Tracker.

Bus Tracker is supposed to help prevent situations like this (#65 Grand)

Last night at 9:50 pm, returning from the C.E.R.A. meeting, I waited 25 minutes for a southbound #54 Cicero bus at Montrose; and then there were three buses in eleven minutes.

In all the cases you mentioned, they seem to be Chicago Garage. cf. 74th, where Miss RedEye said about 15 months ago that with their longer experience with BusTracker, they were able to fix these kind of problems.

Since supervision is out of garages, if something has to be done, the next step would be to contact the supervisors out of C.

Of course, our driver posters out of C could give us a better idea about this.

[pudgym29]

Here is the pertinent linage from "Chicago Surface Lines • An Illustrated History" by Alan R. Lind [© MCMLXXIV: ISBN 0-934732-01-9].

Page 176:

In addition to the scheduled short line cars, CSL turned back cars on its lines in emergencies to avoid flooded underpasses, reroute cars, restore normal headways, avoid major fires or accidents, etc. Even though it might not have any scheduled short line cars, a route always had crossovers strategically placed to reroute or turn back cars. Cars always carried on their destination signs a number of unscheduled terminals for emergency display.

More often than is now done, cars were pulled off one route to fill in service on another whose headways had been badly interrupted. For example, a 63rd Street PCC car would sometimes be sent down Stony Island, although PCC cars were never assigned to Stony Island.

[cta_44499_FG]

In all the cases you mentioned, they seem to be Chicago Garage. cf. 74th, where Miss RedEye said about 15 months ago that with their longer experience with BusTracker, they were able to fix these kind of problems.

Since supervision is out of garages, if something has to be done, the next step would be to contact the supervisors out of C.

Of course, our driver posters out of C could give us a better idea about this.

It is not a matter of what garage the route/supervisor is out of. It is a matter of where the bus is when the problem is intercepted. Supervisors DO have their home base garage, but rather or who solves the problem depends on the district (or K) the bus is in when it is addressed.

In other words, a supevisor at the 79th and Western terminal could instruct a bus to switch at the Brown Line (Ainslie/Western), same as a supervisor at Foster and Western (whom most likely would be from Forest Glen/North Park) could instuct a 49 to switch at Archer. The latter is unlikely, as he might choose to switch the bus somewhere on the north end and clear the problem early on. He might choose however to do nothing but advise other supervisors whom the route crosses into such district to better assess the progress of the route more further down or mid-route.

In many cases, a district might be uncovered for whatever reason...and another supevisor is covering two K's. This of course, may lead to problems lingering longer before anyone addresses them.

[Nabinut]

Not that it matters much to you Chicago guys but watching Bustracker yesterday, I was amazed to see that Bus #1000 was actually in service on the 29. I wasn't sure if that bus was only used for P/R trips or charters

[Busjack]

Not that it matters much to you Chicago guys but watching Bustracker yesterday, I was amazed to see that Bus #1000 was actually in service on the 29. I wasn't sure if that bus was only used for P/R trips or charters

No, it is a regular bus, just like the other 2100.

In fact, 1002 got used for the PR trip when regular deliveries of the 1000s were first announced by da Mare, and someone else will tell you it can't be used for a charter.

Bus series here always start with 00.* I've mentioned earlier that L train series start with 01, but no one has ever explained the difference. There was also the discussion about white prototypes, but apparently 1000 was not one of those.

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*Hence why the last of the 1030 diesels is 2029.

BTW, this has been resolved and the winner is 2029:

With a furlong left, looks like we're nose to nose with regard to whether 2029 or 4149 is reported first, thus completing the respective order.

[Busjack]

It is not a matter of what garage the route/supervisor is out of. It is a matter of where the bus is when the problem is intercepted. Supervisors DO have their home base garage, but rather or who solves the problem depends on the district (or K) the bus is in when it is addressed. ...

Thanks for the clarification.

Thus, given that in the 54 example, 3 buses seem bunched somewhere in Austin, which district would be concerned? Or would it have been an issue that someone didn't space them out when they left Montrose and Cicero and they were in that clump down and coming back (i.e. might not even be at the 24th and Cicero terminal yet)?

And probably the most basic question: would a bunch like this set off an alarm on any supervisor's laptop?

[cta_44499_FG]

And probably the most basic question: would a bunch like this set off an alarm on any supervisor's laptop?

That I wouldn't know. Sorry.

[OSUITS]

Thanks for the clarification.

Thus, given that in the 54 example, 3 buses seem bunched somewhere in Austin, which district would be concerned? Or would it have been an issue that someone didn't space them out when they left Montrose and Cicero and they were in that clump down and coming back (i.e. might not even be at the 24th and Cicero terminal yet)?

And probably the most basic question: would a bunch like this set off an alarm on any supervisor's laptop?

No, the Supervisor tool is not all that different than the public website, it just shows RUN ID and Operator ID in addition, you can also see more than 5 routes and can turn off the route lines. The addition of number of passengers onboard is supposed to happen at some point.

[Zol87]

Bustracker now has an authentic bus stop announcement sound from the buses for the bus stop alarm.ding.wav

[NewFlyer0627]

Hello Members Chicago Bus, I wondering has anyone spotted New Flyer Buses: 1550, 1624 & 1687 on bustracker since they came in service, because I have not seen them anywhere on the routes.

[dann]

Hello Members Chicago Bus, I wondering has anyone spotted New Flyer Buses: 1550, 1624 & 1687 on bustracker since they came in service, because I have not seen them anywhere on the routes.

I saw 1624 on route 82 in person last Thursday or Friday.

[jajuan]

Hello Members Chicago Bus, I wondering has anyone spotted New Flyer Buses: 1550, 1624 & 1687 on bustracker since they came in service, because I have not seen them anywhere on the routes.

I rode 1687 on the 82 about a couple weeks ago. 1624 also turns up regularly on the 12 at least once a week. 1550 if I recall correctly is now at 74th.

[jacksone44]

I rode 1687 on the 82 about a couple weeks ago. 1624 also turns up regularly on the 12 at least once a week. 1550 if I recall correctly is now at 74th.

1550 is at 77th.

[NewFlyer0627]

Hi everybody what is going on in chicago with the New Flyer D40LF, DE40LF & DE60LF Buses??? But I was mainly wondering about NF 1550 has anyone seen that bus around cause I haven't and a check bustracker almost ever day??

[pudgym29]

Something has gone wrong with Bus Tracker today. It appears that buses from Forest Glen and Archer garages are not propagating on the system.

Check routes #49 Western and #77 Belmont for illustration. Is there only one bus (a Flxible!) running on #77, and none at all on #49?

Who do you contact at CTA to let it know about this?

[jajuan]

Thought I'd come back to this thread after about three months time to mention that now if you wish to check Bustracker online, you now need to create an account to view any bus arrivals. If you try now without a login, any route you check will pop with a generic 'XX Route has no service scheduled at this time' message even if you know for sure that route is running. I discovered this a few days ago when my sister asked me to track her route she takes to work.

[Kevin]

Thought I'd come back to this thread after about three months time to mention that now if you wish to check Bustracker online, you now need to create an account to view any bus arrivals. If you try now without a login, any route you check will pop with a generic 'XX Route has no service scheduled at this time' message even if you know for sure that route is running. I discovered this a few days ago when my sister asked me to track her route she takes to work.

Not true. Probably was a temporary issue.