More Bus Moves

[Bus1807]

16 minutes ago, Sam92 said:

I unfortunately grew up with the 95E and watched them run 6 in a group at 5pm faithfully 🫩😒

Well we have the 95 now so that’s a win 🥲✌️

[Bus1807]

Except for the fact 95 is usually novas 😭✌️

[79th to Ford city]

I know right I saw 8000 on 95th 

[Bus1517]

21 minutes ago, 79th to Ford city said:

I know right I saw 8000 on 95th 

and?

[Sam92]

1 hour ago, Bus1807 said:

Except for the fact 95 is usually novas 😭✌️

And to think that was the "land of the Boxes". I'm glad 103rd was nova free with the first gen because they weren't too good with speed. Definitely didn't sound like they handled lake shore too well the few times I either rode one on the #2 or one got loaned for the #14 or X28

[Bus1807]

44 minutes ago, Sam92 said:

And to think that was the "land of the Boxes". I'm glad 103rd was nova free with the first gen because they weren't too good with speed. Definitely didn't sound like they handled lake shore too well the few times I either rode one on the #2 or one got loaned for the #14 or X28

Oh yeah definitely , and to think that 40 ft buses are considered boxes and the 60 ft artics are considered accordion slinky’s crack me up 🤣 

[Sam92]

7 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

Oh yeah definitely , and to think that 40 ft buses are considered boxes and the 60 ft artics are considered accordion slinky’s crack me up 🤣 

Land of the boxes was more a reference to 103rd being all flyer lol

[Bus1807]

9 hours ago, Sam92 said:

Land of the boxes was more a reference to 103rd being all flyer lol

Dang, I never knew 103rd was all flyer, they got express routes in that garage.

[Busjack]

56 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

Dang, I never knew 103rd was all flyer, they got express routes in that garage.

It hasn;t been since the 8325s arrived.

[Bus1807]

2 minutes ago, Busjack said:

It hasn;t been since the 8325s arrived.

Yeah I know, I was just talking about when it did have all flyers.

[Busjack]

31 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

Yeah I know, I was just talking about when it did have all flyers.

There was a trend when Novas only went to certain garages (7, A (later 74), C, and F, and not to the others (1, K, P). But that ended.

[Bus1807]

3 minutes ago, Busjack said:

There was a trend when Novas only went to certain garages (7, A (later 74), C, and F, and not to the others (1, K, P). But that ended.

Yeah P and K have a decent amount of novas now. 103rd has a bit too much in my opinion. I miss when it was all flyer

[Sam92]

3 hours ago, Busjack said:

There was a trend when Novas only went to certain garages (7, A (later 74), C, and F, and not to the others (1, K, P). But that ended.

 

4 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

Dang, I never knew 103rd was all flyer, they got express routes in that garage.

I think the idea was 103rd, K and P had more older fleets so the flyers went to those garages to balance the age out at places that didn't get the Novas yet. They also tried to go all 6000s at 74th but had to trade them out for some 1000s from 103rd. They were starting to crack down on balancing out the fleet age and consolidation during these years. 

[Bus1807]

21 hours ago, Busjack said:

As I noted in the topics on hybrid buses, Pace approved a contract for 250 Gillig hybrids and made a base order of only 8, so you know that no one would have bid on that basis unless CTA was also on board.

I take @artthouwill's comment to refer to the joint CTA-Pace solicitation for 250 BEBs, which, at the moment, closes on Oct. 16. But given all of PhoenixEV's defaults (including someone posting a CTA internal document that CTA canceled the order for 22 more), I don't think it will be them.

The joint solicitation definitely makes the possibility interesting, but I wouldn’t automatically assume CTA is going to order Gilligs just because they’re participating. There are a lot of factors that go into procurement, and until the contract is awarded, I’d take the speculation with a grain of salt.

[79th to Ford city]

Quick announcement there is flyers on the 95th 1160 1163 1581

[Bus1807]

2 minutes ago, 79th to Ford city said:

Quick announcement there is flyers on the 95th 1160 1163 1581

This isn’t relevant to what we are discussing and plus this is a More Bus Moves thread. Please stop with your nonsense.

[79th to Ford city]

1581 moved to 103rd from 74th 

[Bus1807]

1 minute ago, 79th to Ford city said:

1581 moved to 103rd from 74th 

Already mentioned.

[Bus1807]

Almost a month late but #1502 has moved to CG from 74th.

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, Sam92 said:

 

I think the idea was 103rd, K and P had more older fleets so the flyers went to those garages to balance the age out at places that didn't get the Novas yet. They also tried to go all 6000s at 74th but had to trade them out for some 1000s from 103rd. They were starting to crack down on balancing out the fleet age and consolidation during these years. 

If you go back to the wee days of this forum, there were definite things happening, especially at 69th/74th, including that 69th did not have accessible buses, but when 74th opened it got 6000s plus some 4400s from NP (which got 5800s), then when the NFs came, it got 1730-1759 (approx.) just to make up what it was short. It got Novas when Archer closed and the 6000s were mothballed. That, for the first time, put 74th on the same schedule as other garages with Novas.

FG was affected by the need to put preheaters on buses at "outdoor garages," so it got K's 6000s in return for its 5300s. FG already had 6400s, so it was comparatively better off.

Basically, 103's and NP's fleets fell apart at the same time, so there were the two odd/even splits of 1430-1629 and 1760-1859.
After that, 40' buses were replaced pretty much by age, and the need to get rid of 1630-2029s that were rusted.

32 minutes ago, Bus1807 said:

The joint solicitation definitely makes the possibility interesting, but I wouldn’t automatically assume CTA is going to order Gilligs just because they’re participating. There are a lot of factors that go into procurement, and until the contract is awarded, I’d take the speculation with a grain of salt.

You're confusing what I said. I said Pace signed a contract for 250 Gillig hybrids and said at a board meeting that it was ordering 8 35' ones for River and CTA can pick from that contract. CTA received a Low/No grant for 150 hybrid buses. Put 2+2 together.

The pending procurement is for 250 battery electric buses.

[Bus1807]

1 minute ago, Busjack said:

If you go back to the wee days of this forum, there were definite things happening, especially at 69th/74th, including that 69th did not have accessible buses, but when 74th opened it got 6000s plus some 4400s from NP (which got 5800s), then when the NFs came, it got 1730-1759 (approx.) just to make up what it was short. It got Novas when Archer closed and the 6000s were mothballed. That, for the first time, put 74th on the same schedule as other garages with Novas.

FG was affected by the need to put preheaters on buses at "outdoor garages," so it got K's 6000s in return for its 5300s. FG already had 6400s, so it was comparatively better off.

Basically, 103's and NP's fleets fell apart at the same time, so there were the two odd/even splits of 1430-1629 and 1760-1859.
After that, 40' buses were replaced pretty much by age, and the need to get rid of 1630-2029s that were rusted.

You're confusing what I said. I said Pace signed a contract for 250 Gillig hybrids and said at a board meeting that it was ordering 8 35' ones for River and CTA can pick from that contract. CTA received a Low/No grant for 150 hybrid buses. Put 2+2 together.

The pending procurement is for 250 battery electric buses.

Exactly, that’s what I’m getting at. I’m not saying CTA is guaranteed to order Gilligs, but Pace’s existing Gillig hybrid contract, the option for CTA to select buses through that contract, and CTA receiving a Low-No grant for 150 hybrid buses make it a legitimate possibility. The 250-bus battery-electric procurement is a separate matter entirely. I’m connecting the existing contract and funding together, not saying the pending electric bus procurement has anything to do with Gillig hybrids.

[Sam92]

4 hours ago, Busjack said:

If you go back to the wee days of this forum, there were definite things happening, especially at 69th/74th, including that 69th did not have accessible buses, but when 74th opened it got 6000s plus some 4400s from NP (which got 5800s), then when the NFs came, it got 1730-1759 (approx.) just to make up what it was short. It got Novas when Archer closed and the 6000s were mothballed. That, for the first time, put 74th on the same schedule as other garages with Novas.

FG was affected by the need to put preheaters on buses at "outdoor garages," so it got K's 6000s in return for its 5300s. FG already had 6400s, so it was comparatively better off.

Basically, 103's and NP's fleets fell apart at the same time, so there were the two odd/even splits of 1430-1629 and 1760-1859.
After that, 40' buses were replaced pretty much by age, and the need to get rid of 1630-2029s that were rusted.

 

Ahh my memory of the range is off I see. I remember us  (south east side) having our part of the 1430-1629 but thought K and C had whatever evens or odds 103rd didn't have. I know 103rd was involved with 74th getting some flyers because we got some 6000s back in return before the 2010 cuts. Were the signs on 1249, 6518 and 6515 experiments? I remember there being differences with 1249's font and the different colors on the mentioned Novas. Can't remember when exactly the digital side screens on select K buses got phased out either. 

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, Sam92 said:

we got some 6000s back in return before the 2010 cuts.

I (unlike @Bushunter) didn't archive rosters, but more likely they were from 7 when it got Novas, or went from 7 to somewhere else to 1.

[Mr.cta85]

21 hours ago, Bus1807 said:

Yeah I know, I was just talking about when it did have all flyers.

Yes it was a time when it was just all flyers at 103rd that roamed the streets lol. I started in 2012 and that’s my home garage then novas slowly but surely make their presence known. Now flyers at that garage at least is a thing of the past lol.

[Bus1807]

1 hour ago, Mr.cta85 said:

Yes it was a time when it was just all flyers at 103rd that roamed the streets lol. I started in 2012 and that’s my home garage then novas slowly but surely make their presence known. Now flyers at that garage at least is a thing of the past lol.

Well, time flies because all I ride at 103rd is mainly novas and SOMETIMES new flyers. I usually take the Jeffery Local route.