CTA Bus Garage Rosters

[ChicagoNova]

This is what I have as far as the current CTA bus roster: (starting from north to south, descending from newest to oldest) (last updated 8/31/12)

Forest Glen (240 total)

• Optima Opus #500 series(2006):
• #518 - #528, #530 - #544 (26 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):

  #1083 - #1087, #1089, #1090 - #1098, #1189 - #1199, #1202, #1203, #1205, #1207, #1209, #1214, #1215, #1218 - #1222, #1224, #1226 - #1247, #1258 - #1265 (68 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6574 - #6593, #6692 - #6725, #6727 - #6737, #6739 - #6818 (146 total)

• North Park (273 total)

• New Flyer D60LF #4000 series (2008 -2009):
• #4054 - #4070, #4072 - #4079, #4113 - #4207 (120 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):

  #1266 - #1270, #1311 - #1325, #1375 - #1429, #1761 - #1797, #1857 - #1925 (odd numbers) (146 total)

• Chicago (254 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006- 2009):

  #1041 - #1082, #1099, #1326 - #1346, #1430 - #1481, #1855, #1856 - #1924 (even

  numbers), #1926, #1927, #1972, #1974, #1982 - #2029 (203 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6521 - #6567, #6569 - #6573, #6594 - #6596 (54 total)

• Kedzie (276 total)

• New Flyer D60LF #4000 series (2008 - 2009):
• #4000 - #4053 (54 total)

New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012-13):

#4321, #4333, #4336, #4340 - #4344, #4346, #4347, #4355, #4356, #4358, #4360, #4364 (15

total)

• New Flyer DE40LF (2006, 2007):
• #800 - #809 (10 total)

• New Flyer DE40LF (2006, 2007):
• #900 - #909 (10 total)

• New Flyer D40LF (2006 - 2009):
• #1166 - #1188, #1200, #1201, #1204, #1206, #1208, #1210 - #1213, #1216, #1217, #1223, #1225, #1348 - #1374, #1590 - #1596, #1601, #1603, #1606 - #1614 (even

  numbers), #1615 - #1720 (188 total)

• 74th (256 total)

• New Flyer D40LF (2006 - 2009):
• #1088, #1100 - #1165, #1541 - #1589, #1721 - #1760 (157 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6478 - #6488, #6597 - #6609, #6611 - #6691 (99 total)
• 77th (282 total)
• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):
• #1273 - #1304, #1306 - #1310, #1347, #1928 - #1971, #1973, #1975- #1981 (91 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6400 - #6419, #6421 - #6477, #6489 - #6520, #6819 - #6831, #6833 - #6883 (174 total)
• New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012-13):
• #4345, #4349, #4354, #4365-68, #4370 - #4387, #4389, #4392, #4394 (28 total)

• 103rd (288 total)

• New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012):
• #4300 - #4320, #4322 - #4332, #4334, #4335, #4337 - #4339, #4348, #4350 - #4353, #4357, #4359, #4361-63, #4369, #4388, #4390, #4391, #4393, #4395 - #4399 (56 total)

• New Flyer DE60LF #4000 series (2008, 2009):
• #4080 - #4112 (33 total)

• Optima Opus #500 series (2006):
• #500 - #513, #515, #517 (16 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):

  #1000 - #1040, #1248 - #1257, #1271, #1272, #1483 - #1540, #1597 - #1600, #1602,

  #1604, #1605 - #1613 (odd numbers), #1798 - #1854 (183 total)

Buses Out Of Service

Nova LFS #6400 Series: (2000 - 2002):

#6420, #6522, #6531, #6568, #6610, #6726, #6738, #6832

Optima Opus #500 Series (2006) :

#514, #529, #516 is now the Ventra bus

New Flyer D40LF #1000 Series (2006 - 2009):

#1305, #1482

New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 Series (2012):

#4323

[ChicagoNova]

Nova 6520 is still at 77th, working #4 Cottage Grove.

[BusHunter]

This is what I have as far as the current CTA bus roster: (starting from north to
south, descending from newest to oldest) (last updated 11/6/12)


Forest Glen (253 total)

• Optima Opus #500 series (2006):
• #500 - #504, #518 - #528, #530 - #544 (32 total)
• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):
  #1083 - #1087, #1090 - #1098, #1189 - #1199, #1202, #1203, #1205, #1207, #1209, #1214, #1215, #1218 - #1222, #1224, #1226 - #1247, #1258 - #1265 (67 total)
• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6513 - #6520, #6574 - #6593, #6692 - #6725, #6727 - #6737, #6739 - #6818 (161 total)
• North Park (279 total)
• New Flyer D60LF #4000 series (2008 -2009):
• #4054 - #4070, #4072 - #4077, #4113 - #4207 (118 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):
  #1266 - #1270, #1301 - #1328, #1375 - #1429, #1761 - #1797, #1857 - #1897 (odd numbers) #1899 - #1903, #1905 - #1925 (odd numbers) (161 total)

• Chicago (282 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006- 2009):
  #1041 - #1082, #1099, #1329 - #1346, #1430 - #1467, #1469- #1481, #1855, #1856 - #1898 (even numbers) #1904 - #1924 (even numbers), #1926, #1927, #1974, #1982 - #2029 (201 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6489 - #6512, #6521, #6523 - #6530, #6532 - #6567, #6569 - #6573, #6594 - #6596 (76 total)
• New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012-13):
• #4395-99 (5 total) (There are unconfirmed reports these are here)

• Kedzie (290 total)

• New Flyer D60LF #4000 series (2008 - 2009):
• #4000 - #4053 (54 total)

New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012-13):
#4324 - #4338 (15 total)

• New Flyer DE40LF (2006, 2007):
• #800 - #809 (10 total)

• New Flyer DE40LF (2006, 2007):
• #900 - #909 (10 total)

• New Flyer D40LF (2006 - 2009):
• #1162 - #1188, #1200, #1201, #1204, #1206, #1208, #1210 - #1213, #1216,
  #1217, #1223, #1225, #1277 - #1282, #1348 - #1374, #1590 - #1596, #1601, #1603, #1606 - #1614 (even numbers), #1615 - #1723 (201 total)

• 74th (253 total)

• New Flyer D40LF (2006 - 2009):
• #1088, #1089, #1100 - #1161, #1545 - #1589, #1724 - #1760 (147 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6479 - #6488, #6597 - #6609, #6611 - #6691, #6876 -#6883 (106 total)
• 77th (277 total)
• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):
• #1273 - #1276, #1283 - #1300, #1347, #1928 - #1973, #1975- #1981 (77 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6400 - #6419, #6421 - #6478, #6819 - #6831, #6833 - #6875 (136 total)
• New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012-13):
• #4339 - #4394 (56 total) (#4395-99 may be at Chicago Garage)

• 103rd (257 total)
• Optima Opus #500 series(2006):
• #505 - #513, #517 (10 total)

• New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012):
• #4300 - #4322 (23 total)

• New Flyer DE60LF #4000 series (2008, 2009):
• #4078 - #4112 (35 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):
  #1000 - #1040, #1248 - #1257, #1271, #1272, #1483 - #1544, #1597 - #1600, #1602,
  #1604, #1605 - #1613 (odd numbers), #1798 - #1854 (187 total)

Buses Out Of Service

Nova LFS #6400 Series: (2000 - 2002):
#6420, #6522, #6531, #6568, #6610, #6726, #6738, #6832

Optima Opus #500 Series (2006) :
#514, #529, #516 & #515 are now Ventra buses

New Flyer D40LF #1000 Series (2006 - 2009):
#1305, #1468, #1482

New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 Series (2012):
#4323

[Busjack]

The real question is how Kedzie stores 290 buses, of which 71 are artics, giving an effective total of about 325 (counting an artic. as maybe 1.5 buses)?

[RJL6000]

Count bus 1089 as based at 74th, not Forest Glen.

[pete6125]

Is bus 4071 still out of service?

[BusHunter]

The real question is how Kedzie stores 290 buses, of which 71 are artics, giving an effective total of about 325 (counting an artic. as maybe 1.5 buses)?

Something does seem a little fishy with the fg and chicago totals as well. I think some of those optimas and maybe #6500 novas are gone. The only way to know for sure is a peek at the roster which I might not have for a week or so. I'm on vacation right now and not doing too much transitwise.

[Busjack]

Something does seem a little fishy with the fg and chicago totals as well. I think some of those optimas and maybe #6500 novas are gone. The only way to know for sure is a peek at the roster which I might not have for a week or so. I'm on vacation right now and not doing too much transitwise.

Those two seem a bit high (I can't see FG sending out 40 Optimas), but there doesn't seem to be the storage crunch that the K numbers imply.

[jajuan]

The real question is how Kedzie stores 290 buses, of which 71 are artics, giving an effective total of about 325 (counting an artic. as maybe 1.5 buses)?

Valid point but if the 290 total is accurate, it's not really storing all 290 at one time given it does have the 60 as a night car and it's got buses not getting back onto garage grounds until about 1 AM to almost 2 AM for late ending routes and buses leaving back out around 3 AM for all the routes that assigned that have first full trips beginning at 4 AM. Plus it's established a history of storing overflows outside the garage proper in its south lot. Though admittedly it wasn't doing so with just over 70 artics assigned. But so far we have no indication Kedzie gave up any buses outside of swapping artics for artics.

[YoungBusLover]

Just a quick question, How long has 6691 been at 77th?, because its lurking around the garages for about 4 or 5 days now.

[PACE NORTHWEST]

This is what I have as far as the current CTA bus roster: (starting from north to

south, descending from newest to oldest) (last updated 10/22/12) (Note this is still a wip, I'm still learning some info myself)

Forest Glen (255 total)

• Optima Opus #500 series (2006):
• #518 - #528, #530 - #544 (26 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):

  #1083 - #1087, #1090 - #1098, #1189 - #1199, #1202, #1203, #1205,

  #1207, #1209, #1214, #1215, #1218 - #1222, #1224, #1226 - #1247, #1258 -

  #1265 (67 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6505 - #6520, #6574 - #6593, #6692 - #6725, #6727 - #6737, #6739 - #6818 (162 total)

• North Park (272 total)

• New Flyer D60LF #4000 series (2008 -2009):
• #4056 - #4070, #4072 - #4077, #4113 - #4207 (116 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):

  #1266 - #1270, #1303 - #1325, #1375 - #1429, #1761 - #1797, #1857 -

  #1897 (odd numbers) #1899 - #1903, #1905 - #1925 (odd numbers) (156

  total)

• Chicago (268 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006- 2009):

  #1041 - #1082, #1099, #1326 - #1346, #1430 - #1481, #1855, #1856 - #1898

  (even numbers) #1904 - #1924 (even numbers), #1926, #1927, #1974, #1982

  - #2029 (204 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6489 - #6504, #6521, #6523 - #6530, #6532 - #6567, #6569 - #6573, #6594 - #6596 (68 total)

• Kedzie (290 total)

• New Flyer D60LF #4000 series (2008 - 2009):
• #4000 - #4055 (56 total)

New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012-13):

#4324 - #4338 (15 total)

• New Flyer DE40LF (2006, 2007):
• #800 - #809 (10 total)

• New Flyer DE40LF (2006, 2007):
• #900 - #909 (10 total)

• New Flyer D40LF (2006 - 2009):
• #1162 - #1188, #1200, #1201, #1204, #1206, #1208, #1210 - #1213, #1216,

  #1217, #1223, #1225, #1279 - #1282, #1348 - #1374, #1590 - #1596, #1601, #1603, #1606 - #1614 (even numbers), #1615 - #1723 (199 total)

• 74th (252 total)

• New Flyer D40LF (2006 - 2009):
• #1088, #1089, #1100 - #1161, #1544 - #1589, #1724 - #1760 (148 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6479 - #6488, #6597 - #6609, #6611 - #6691, #6878 - #6883 (104 total)
• 77th (293 total)
• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):
• #1273 - #1302, #1347, #1928 - #1973, #1975- #1981 (85 total)

• Nova LFS #6400 series (2000 - 2002):
• #6400 - #6419, #6421 - #6478, #6819 - #6831, #6833 - #6877 (137 total)
• New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012-13):
• #4339 - #4399 (61 total)

• 103rd (262 total)
• Optima Opus #500 series(2006):
• #500 - #513, #515, #517 (16 total)

• New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 series (2012):
• #4300 - #4322 (23 total)

• New Flyer DE60LF #4000 series (2008, 2009):
• #4078 - #4112 (35 total)

• New Flyer D40LF #1000 series (2006 - 2009):

  #1000 - #1040, #1248 - #1257, #1271, #1272, #1483 - #1543, #1597 - #1600, #1602,

  #1604, #1605 - #1613 (odd numbers), #1798 - #1854 (186 total)

Buses Out Of Service

Nova LFS #6400 Series: (2000 - 2002):

#6420, #6522, #6531, #6568, #6610, #6726, #6738, #6832

Optima Opus #500 Series (2006) :

#514, #529, #516 is now the Ventra bus

New Flyer D40LF #1000 Series (2006 - 2009):

#1305, #1482

New Flyer DE60LFR #4300 Series (2012):

#4323

6505 is at the Chicago Garage. The bus was on Route 53 today.

[BusHunter]

#6877 is on the #9.

[ArcherRider]

1327 is at North Park because I saw on #148 on bustracker.

[jajuan]

Add 6876 to 74th. It's on the 9 Ashland this morning.

[Busjack]

Add 6876 to 74th. It's on the 9 Ashland this morning.

I'm starting to see the same setup of "74th is going to be the last to get new buses" again. Especially if BusHunter's FG prediction pans out.

[BusHunter]

I'm starting to see the same setup of "74th is going to be the last to get new buses" again. Especially if BusHunter's FG prediction pans out.

Actually it appears the 3 nova garages with the biggest fleets are being transitioned to newer novas and the older stuff retired. I'd lay bets #6876-#6883 has retired some #6600's, the #6500's to FG have retired a few in that block and the #4300's have taken away about 20 novas at 77th as well. The Optimas appear to be doing the same, just like wordguy said. Looks like half the 103rd Optimas came to Fg retiring some other optimas that were already there and at the same time some in the transferred series was retired also. So a rational assumption would be 14 novas at Fg retired, 20 at 77th, 7 at 74th and maybe about 8 optimas retired from FG/103rd.

[jajuan]

77th does still have 6875 as it's currently on the 8. So the cutoff of Nova shifts to 74th is confirmed to be at this point.

[BusHunter]

Has anyone ever spotted #4395-99 on a 77th route? Andre is saying in another forum that those are Chicago garage buses. Also yesterday I spotted #6509 on the #54 so it lives on.

[jajuan]

Has anyone ever spotted #4395-99 on a 77th route? Andre is saying in another forum that those are Chicago garage buses. Also yesterday I spotted #6509 on the #54 so it lives on.

I can't say that I've seen those particular buses off hand but I can say I have yet to see any artics at Chicago garage.

[Sam92]

Has anyone ever spotted #4395-99 on a 77th route? Andre is saying in another forum that those are Chicago garage buses. Also yesterday I spotted #6509 on the #54 so it lives on.

I've seen 4398 on the 79.

[eyetube21]

On the CTA bus tracker today, #3 King Drive route have run all 4300-Series and few 1000-Series new flyer buses today. When I've seen the bus tracker, I notice that they don't run the Nova buses on a Saturday. That's weird.

[Busjack]

On the CTA bus tracker today, #3 King Drive route have run all 4300-Series new flyer buses today. When I've seen the bus tracker, I notice that they don't run the Nova and the 1000-Series new flyers buses on a Saturday. That's weird.

According to the July Ridership Report, King Dr. still has almost 17,000 boardings on Saturday. 79th has about 19,000. So, if the point is to use newer buses, those two seem to qualify.

By comparison, 147 has about 12,300, 146, 13,700.

The two Saturday routes that really could use them are 9 (23,800) and 49 (18,500), but that gets back to 74th not being equipped to run artics.

Basically, it doesn't appear that CTA has gotten its head around its announcements that it intended to replace 100 Novas with the 100 NF artics, nor what would it do with the 50-150 artics in the yet not awarded part of the recent procurement. Also, it has implied that the artics are for decrowding, but hasn't really indicated if some service will be reduced as a result of putting more seats on the line.

[Sam92]

According to the July Ridership Report, King Dr. still has almost 17,000 boardings on Saturday. 79th has about 19,000. So, if the point is to use newer buses, those two seem to qualify.

By comparison, 147 has about 12,300, 146, 13,700.

The two Saturday routes that really could use them are 9 (23,800) and 49 (18,500), but that gets back to 74th not being equipped to run artics.

Basically, it doesn't appear that CTA has gotten its head around its announcements that it intended to replace 100 Novas with the 100 NF artics, nor what would it do with the 50-150 artics in the yet not awarded part of the recent procurement. Also, it has implied that the artics are for decrowding, but hasn't really indicated if some service will be reduced as a result of putting more seats on the line.

Maybe the 9 could be shared until 74th gets artics? I know 74th is the closest but maybe both K and NP could both chip in with their extra artics. 49 is already shared with NP so its just.a matter of assigning them to that route.

[jajuan]

On the CTA bus tracker today, #3 King Drive route have run all 4300-Series and few 1000-Series new flyer buses today. When I've seen the bus tracker, I notice that they don't run the Nova buses on a Saturday. That's weird.

4, 8 and some other routes out of 77th did use Novas so it was pretty much unique to the 3. As for the 9, I think it should be remembered that the 9 is a 24 hr route compared to the 3 operating between approximately 5:30 AM and midnight on a Saturday, and it covers a lot more ground than the 3. I use the 9 on weekends and I can tell you that those approximate 23,000 Saturday boardings are spread out enough in addition to a lot of them being relatively short rides compared to weekday rides, that buses on that route are not jammed to the gills with standees being a rare sight on either weekend day. I've only ever seen a lot of standees on the 9 during a Saturday when something was going on at the United Center or if Union Park at Ashland/Lake has some big event like the music events that were there this past summer and the Universoul Circus last month. It's a similar situation for the 49 minus the Union Park detail.

[BusHunter]

I think I just saw #1271 heading up Kedzie ave at Belmont out of service heading to np.