ibebobo Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Anyone know the story of these two? I saw them by Western Av yesterday. I apologize if this has already been covered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, ibebobo said: Anyone know the story of these two? I saw them by Western Av yesterday. I apologize if this has already been covered See this thread. There is a #97 as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibebobo Posted September 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 New f59phi Link: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted January 13, 2019 Report Share Posted January 13, 2019 Metra can't even get information correct on its own web/Facebook page. "Lookin' fresh! We got a preview today of an F59PHI locomotive in Metra colors" Not quite Metra Colors. More like a 3rd paint scheme...and even then, it's not consistent with all of the so called new stuff. It is all being rushed because they want the stuff out as soon as possible. Apparently they are not even sending them to KYD for painting, they are using rollers and decals at Western Avenue. They claim that new locos would cost $3 million each and that they are saving $2 million on the cost of each loco. But what they forgot to figure is: - The paint - Reconfiguring the HEP system - Reconfiguring the braking systems - Reconfiguring the cable set up. - adding PTC garbage When it is all said and done, they probably could have had 15 (instead of 24) new engines complete with warranties and the such for about the same money being spent. There will be problems with these, hopefully not as bad as the F59PHs (97, 98, 99) that spend as much time in the shop as on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, trainman8119 said: adding PTC garbage Metra would have had to pay for that, one way or another. Metra previously claimed that the only savings was getting a fairly recently rehabbed Amtrak compared to rehabbing some of the Metra locomotives that hadn't been rehabbed. New locos are a reference only to the extent that Metra is crying for a state capital program (as noted here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richii0909 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 18 hours ago, Busjack said: Metra would have had to pay for that, one way or another. Metra previously claimed that the only savings was getting a fairly recently rehabbed Amtrak compared to rehabbing some of the Metra locomotives that hadn't been rehabbed. New locos are a reference only to the extent that Metra is crying for a state capital program (as noted here). If metra got the funds they wanted to buy new locomotives.. which kind would they get? Would be nice to see some Siemens chargers on the line. What are your thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, richii0909 said: If metra got the funds they wanted to buy new locomotives.. which kind would they get? Whatever would be the lowest responsible bid in response to the RFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 F59PH #97 has been shipped south to an unknown facility (either in Georgia or Florida) for rebuilding. Reportedly 98 and 99 are to follow. Not my photo, but here it is on a CSX train to Waycross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 They are being sent for rebuilt as part of standard midlife rehab. Maybe they'll have the same fate as loco 205. They are not good engines and have been trouble since day one. Interesting that they are sending all 3 seeing as how there is such a locomotive shortage crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 hours ago, WCR said: F59PH #97 has been shipped south to an unknown facility (either in Georgia or Florida) for rebuilding. Reportedly 98 and 99 are to follow. Not my photo, but here it is on a CSX train to Waycross. Probably going to a Progress Rail facility in FL. I can't find an exact list of their properties though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 14 hours ago, trainman8119 said: They are being sent for rebuilt as part of standard midlife rehab. Maybe they'll have the same fate as loco 205. They are not good engines and have been trouble since day one. Interesting that they are sending all 3 seeing as how there is such a locomotive shortage crisis. It looks like they're only sending one at a time, I saw 98 in service yesterday. The PHIs are helping pick up the slack as well. Edit: There are also supposed to be an additional three F59PHs coming from SCAX (Metrolink) eventually to be numbered 94-96. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/02/20-metra-board-approves-locomotive-purchase I wonder if 97-99 are the three locomotives being mentioned here. That seems off to me, though, because they aren't being purchased. This article does make me more confident Progress Rail is the one to rehab them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, NewFlyerMCI said: http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/02/20-metra-board-approves-locomotive-purchase I wonder if 97-99 are the three locomotives being mentioned here. That seems off to me, though, because they aren't being purchased. This article does make me more confident Progress Rail is the one to rehab them. They are oversized freight locos being rebuilt by Progress for passenger service. Seems like Progress has had a real sweetheart deal going lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, NewFlyerMCI said: http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/02/20-metra-board-approves-locomotive-purchase I wonder if 97-99 are the three locomotives being mentioned here. That seems off to me, though, because they aren't being purchased. This article does make me more confident Progress Rail is the one to rehab them. Those would be 94-96 from Metrolink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, WCR said: Those would be 94-96 from Metrolink Nope... From the article.... "Metra on Wednesday approved a $71 million contract to purchase 15 remanufactured locomotives from Progress Rail Locomotives with options to buy up to 27 additional locomotives if more funding becomes available. According to a Metra announcement, Progress Rail will take existing EMD SD70MAC freight locomotives and upgrade and configure them for passenger use. All components will either be refurbished, upgraded or new. The newly remanufactured locomotives will be designated as SD70MACH locomotives." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 49 minutes ago, trainman8119 said: Nope... From the article.... "Metra on Wednesday approved a $71 million contract to purchase 15 remanufactured locomotives from Progress Rail Locomotives with options to buy up to 27 additional locomotives if more funding becomes available. According to a Metra announcement, Progress Rail will take existing EMD SD70MAC freight locomotives and upgrade and configure them for passenger use. All components will either be refurbished, upgraded or new. The newly remanufactured locomotives will be designated as SD70MACH locomotives." I think he might be mentioning this part "The addition this year of 21 used F59PHI locomotives purchased from Amtrak and three F59PHs from Progress Rail will reduce that percentage to about 45 percent. The addition of the remanufactured freight locomotives will reduce that percentage to 14 percent by 2023, he said." The locomotives being sent are F59PHs and the locomotives from Metrolink are F59PHs, so I'm wondering if this is bad wording on the author's part or there are another 3 locomotives we don't know about yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted May 9, 2019 Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 Yes. So to clarify: -Former Amtrak F59PHI 73-93 are being delivered as-is. -F59PH 94-96 have been purchased by Metra from Metrolink and will undergo rebuild by Progress Rail before delivery. -Existing F59PH 97-99 are being sent for rebuild. -15 SD70MACH (unknown #) will be rebuilt by Progress Rail for Metra in the next couple years. Of all these, only the latter are supposed to actually replace anything. Everything else is for expansion (probably spare power and "reverse-commute" trips). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Seems like the number of regular "double-headers" is increasing. Trains getting longer and heavier than one unit can successfully keep schedule with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, andrethebusman said: Seems like the number of regular "double-headers" is increasing. Trains getting longer and heavier than one unit can successfully keep schedule with? Which trains specifically? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, Pace831 said: Which trains specifically? Don't the surfliner locos operate as doubles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 hours ago, NewFlyerMCI said: Don't the surfliner locos operate as doubles? No more than anything else does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 4:37 PM, WCR said: Yes. So to clarify: -Former Amtrak F59PHI 73-93 are being delivered as-is. -F59PH 94-96 have been purchased by Metra from Metrolink and will undergo rebuild by Progress Rail before delivery. -Existing F59PH 97-99 are being sent for rebuild. -15 SD70MACH (unknown #) will be rebuilt by Progress Rail for Metra in the next couple years. Of all these, only the latter are supposed to actually replace anything. Everything else is for expansion (probably spare power and "reverse-commute" trips). Actually, the Amtrak F59PHIs will replace some 100 series engines. 215 has already died and being scavenged for parts. Some of the functional are supposed to be sent to the UP. Early discussions have the MACHs perhaps destined to the BN. The goal is to have the Milwaukee District be equipped with Amtrak and MP36 locos. As of the last I heard, nothing is headed to the Rock Island, unless some MP36s find their way there. Nobody anywhere has said anything about 94-96...these are news to me. At some point, the F59PHIs will need a midlife rebuild from what has been said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 Looks like the METX 90 is finally in service, with its unique surf/cascades hybrid scheme. Not my photo, obviously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 That looks good. I remember a time when the pitbulls were the only locomotive i'd ever see, I'm glad there's a variety now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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