Kevin Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Despite news reports that BRT funding may still be safe, the BRT planning page on CTA's site has disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Despite news reports that BRT funding may still be safe, the BRT planning page on CTA's site has disappeared. Yeeeehawwwww !!!!! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 The CTATattler had a similar story this morning. trainman: I wouldn't get my hopes up that fast. Undoubtedly, it has been archived, and can go up in a minute's notice once the political winds change. Which they will. Not even the Tribune Editorial Board can predict what's happening next, between Durbin, Blago, Madigan, Burris, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 The CTATattler had a similar story this morning. trainman: I wouldn't get my hopes up that fast. Undoubtedly, it has been archived, and can go up in a minute's notice once the political winds change. Which they will. Not even the Tribune Editorial Board can predict what's happening next, between Durbin, Blago, Madigan, Burris, etc. I wont get my hopes up. I just think it is a bad idea to create something for such a small area, where it wouldn't benefit a large number of people and feel that money should be used to improve current problems. CTA can't run what it has and to expand on it can't help. It, in theory, though be along Obama's plan, in that, theoritically, it would create jobs (not that CTA would hire anybody to run the specialized service...and probably would look for ways to screw labor). I'm off my soapbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I just think it is a bad idea to create something for such a small area, where it wouldn't benefit a large number of people and feel that money should be used to improve current problems. CTA can't run what it has and to expand on it can't help.The history of this project (at least as indicated in various blogs) has been that the federal government is engaged in a contest to "mitigate congestion" by rewarding those municipalities that impose the most onerous terms on automobile drivers, and BRT is only a carrot. Since the New York legislature didn't pass congestion pricing, Chicago's plan got eligible for a part of that money, but it seems like the deadline for increasing parking fees and taxes was a more crucial part than getting BRT off the ground. Therefore, it wasn't a BRT grant per se, as the government could have given the money without conditioning it on da Mare's strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest metralink Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 it will be interesting to see if Pace gets the first BRT in the region as their work is still proceeding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 it will be interesting to see if Pace gets the first BRT in the region as their work is still proceedingAlso if it will be more elaborate than just the TSP on Cermak? For instance, ElDorado advertises an EZ Rider II BRT. I guess anyone can put a sloped front on a bus and call it BRT. (Yankee Doodle?) There is also the mandated I-55 project, but that involves such things as running on the shoulder, but not a change in equipment (Pace has again advertised Route 855 for bids). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I noted in the ABC7 story CTA seeks federal transit funding mentioned on the front page:CTA officials are hopeful of getting a big chunk of money likely to be included in President Obama's economic stimulus plan. On Wednesday night, brown (sic) told ABC7's Paul Meincke that the administration is looking for quick projects that can be spent within 90 days. ... Brown said those projects include purchasing 58 new buses, updating rails, new signal work, and station improvements.Double accounting, or did the CTA (according to New Flyer) buy 58 buses for which it didn't have money? Or is this a way to get the supposedly lapsed BRT money up front? Also, the first mention from a CTA source about the 58 buses. Curiouser and curiouser.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I noted in the ABC7 story CTA seeks federal transit funding mentioned on the front page:Double accounting, or did the CTA (according to New Flyer) buy 58 buses for which it didn't have money? Or is this a way to get the supposedly lapsed BRT money up front? Also, the first mention from a CTA source about the 58 buses. Curiouser and curiouser.... Yeah, they seem to be in a catch-22. They signed a contract for 58 buses in October from NF expecting to get at least some money for a pilot program of BRT. Now that has fallen through at least for now. The 58 buses are most likely coming whether there's BRT or not. It's now a question of how to pay for it without a grant. All this work on upgrading rail signals cost money too. With the #5000 railcars being AC versus DC. I'm not sure if they would operate on the old DC system. So that would require a system upgrade. (most of which has already happened) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I put together a special themed BRT-bus on a D40LF drawing... tell me what you think(BTW, I know that 2000 will not be a BRT bus, but I don't have a D60LF drawing). Take and change it to what you think our BRT-buses will look like(provided we get them).cta_D40LF_BRT.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I put together a special themed BRT-bus on a D40LF drawing... tell me what you think(BTW, I know that 2000 will not be a BRT bus, but I don't have a D60LF drawing). Take and change it to what you think our BRT-buses will look like(provided we get them). Looks good though I don't think they're going to put 'BRT EXPRESS BUS' on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Looks good though I don't think they're going to put 'BRT EXPRESS BUS' on it. I agree...I think the design is going to have a more creative touch to it, when it comes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I put together a special themed BRT-bus on a D40LF drawing... tell me what you think(BTW, I know that 2000 will not be a BRT bus, but I don't have a D60LF drawing). Take and change it to what you think our BRT-buses will look like(provided we get them). I'd actually be crazy enough to suggest they go back to the classic two-tone green scheme back in the 80's. Don't get me wrong, I like the design, but there's nothing wrong with a little wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I'd actually be crazy enough to suggest they go back to the classic two-tone green scheme back in the 80's. Don't get me wrong, I like the design, but there's nothing wrong with a little wishful thinking. I would like to see it similar to the scheme that is on the 500 series currently, Although it cant be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE 834 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I'd actually be crazy enough to suggest they go back to the classic two-tone green scheme back in the 80's. Don't get me wrong, I like the design, but there's nothing wrong with a little wishful thinking. I agree,I miss the two-tone green also.It would be nice to go back to that scheme again. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 With all the exciting paint schemes other transit systems have come up with, I can't see going back to what in hindsight is a dull, boring scheme. If BRT does manage to become reality, this is CTA's chance to be creative this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 With all the exciting paint schemes other transit systems have come up with, I can't see going back to what in hindsight is a dull, boring scheme. If BRT does manage to become reality, this is CTA's chance to be creative this time. I agree 150% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I put together a special themed BRT-bus on a D40LF drawing... tell me what you think(BTW, I know that 2000 will not be a BRT bus, but I don't have a D60LF drawing). Take and change it to what you think our BRT-buses will look like(provided we get them). How about changing the black around the window to red? Then it would be perfect! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 How about changing the black around the window to red? Then it would be perfect! Like this...?cta_D40LF_BRT_2.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Like this...? Yes indeedie like that! Thanks much. Gene King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cta 5555 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 how about this?CTABRT.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksone44 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 how about this? Still not creative enough...And I can almost guarantee it wont be called BRT express. Take a little time and do some research and see what other transit agencies are doing as it relates to names and paint schemes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE 834 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 How about changing the black around the window to red? Then it would be perfect! Would they go w/the scheme that was used on the 45' NABI's that they didn't order? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I would go with a solid blue with white lettering, almost to what the LA Metro does to their buses... check out their livery and match that with what the CTA could go for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 how about this? I think this one is a little too "busy". Actually, I wouldn't mind if the CTA moved it's livery away from red,white, and blue. Getting rid of the gray "rocker panels" is a good start though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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