Archon Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Did any of the CTA Man Americana Buses survive in someone's bus collection Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesi2282 Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 No, all but one were scraped, 4200 survived as a bus to store tools in, it has been parked at North Park for a few years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwantae Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 No, all but one were scraped, 4200 survived as a bus to store tools in, it has been parked at North Park for a few years now. Can soneone grab and post a photo of it please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymc77 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 There used to be one under the el tracks around 61st and Calumet, tho it was in real bad shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Can soneone grab and post a photo of it please? Ill see if i can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 No, all but one were scraped, 4200 survived as a bus to store tools in, it has been parked at North Park for a few years now. Is this the same one that was shown parked with its windows intact? That particular prc was dated November 2004. The one that I mentioned at Skokie Shops had it's windows covered over and a lock on its rear doors if I remember correctly. Someone on the forum found a pic of it and provided a link quite some time ago. That member was making the point that they didn't like how the bus was treated after the end of its run in revenue service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTA42 Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 4200 in April, 2008 and November, 2007, respectively: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 4200 in April, 2008 and November, 2007, respectively: Ok that pretty much shows we're speaking of two different buses. So from that statement of only one Americana being saved from the scrapper, is it being said that the bus with the boarded up windows and being used as a maintenance bus was scrapped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTA42 Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I fixed the link in the original post. There was no bus at 63rd & Loomis when I was there in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Ok that pretty much shows we're speaking of two different buses. So from that statement of only one Americana being saved from the scrapper, is it being said that the bus with the boarded up windows and being used as a maintenance bus was scrapped? I found the boarded up Americana that was at 61st/calumet. I'm having somewhat of a twilight zone moment here though, because the bus looks like it is #4200 and it's boarded up. Link to americana bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymc77 Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Im not 100% positive but I think the number of the bus under the tracks on 61st/Calumet is 4240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPTA42 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 The bus BusHunter linked to is 4240. Note that the photo is roughly two years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Though mot a CTA bus, I found this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Though mot a CTA bus, I found this Speaking of wraps #5073-74 is now wrapped black for Remy Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Though mot a CTA bus, I found this What city and TA was this bus in service for during its service life? That is if it was an American city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 What city and TA was this bus in service for during its service life? That is if it was an American city. Well looking at the trees, it is a city that gets cold temps as the trees are bare. Chicago had M.A.N Americanas, Minneapolis did. I don't know if Milwaukee did or New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Well looking at the trees, it is a city that gets cold temps as the trees are bare. Chicago had M.A.N Americanas, Minneapolis did. I don't know if Milwaukee did or New York. Trees still go bare in the South as well during the winter, so that's not really enough to say it's Minneapolis. Plus I don't remember seeing those roof attachments on any of the ex-Minneapolis buses that that South side church bought as Americanas were being phased out in the cities that had them. As I recall the cities in the U.S. besides Chicago that had them were New Orleans, Seattle, Charlotte, Minneapolis and World Transportation in Orlando were known to have them as evidenced by photos. The photo suggests this is a standard width so Charlotte would be out as BusExplorer mentioned that was the only city out of the cities to order Americanas to go with the 96" wide narrow version. The Orlando World Transportation ones were most like CTA's version. The windows have me leaning toward this being a former Seattle bus. Theirs were the only Americanas I have memory of having that style window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 This pic was taken in Oak Park, neat The Carleton Hotel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 This pic was taken in Oak Park, neat The Carleton Hotel. Okay. I thought maybe it was taken elsewhere or if you knew which TA it served its service life as a revenue vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Okay. I thought maybe it was taken elsewhere or if you knew which TA it served its service life as a revenue vehicle. I couldn't get a view inside, nor found any decals. I forgot to check the plates. This was taken last winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I couldn't get a view inside, nor found any decals. I forgot to check the plates. This was taken last winter. If it had a rear window I would guess ex-Seattle. Someone had mentioned having no rear window was unique for an Americana, but from all the pics I remember Seattle's King County Metro was the unique American TA in having a rear window Americana. All the other TAs including CTA had models without the rear window. If you switched your perspective to the other TAs besides American ones then yes no rear window was unique. But sticking with the American version of this bus, what we refer to as the MAN Americana, then Seattle was unique among the TAs with this bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 If it had a rear window I would guess ex-Seattle. Someone had mentioned having no rear window was unique for an Americana, but from all the pics I remember Seattle's King County Metro was the unique American TA in having a rear window Americana. All the other TAs including CTA had models without the rear window. If you switched your perspective to the other TAs besides American ones then yes no rear window was unique. But sticking with the American version of this bus, what we refer to as the MAN Americana, then Seattle was unique among the TAs with this bus. To my recollect, no rear window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Way back, there was a 5/3 MAN bus in the western suburbs with a red and black wrap. The wrap may be new, but probably not the bus. The roof vents seem to eliminate NORTA, Seattle (although the rear windows are illustrated), Charlotte (note more modern treatment of headsign area), World Trans, and Minneapolis. Maybe this delivery list helps; searching it for "792" also turns up Harris County (presumably Texas), but Bus Explorer says that the World Trans ones are ex-Houston. So, I'm stumped. Maybe Fifth-Third had it air conditioned after they got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownliner Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 <br />Way back, there was a 5/3 MAN bus in the western suburbs with a red and black wrap. The wrap may be new, but probably not the bus.<br /><br />The roof vents seem to eliminate <a href='http://www.streetcarmike.com/norta_man.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow'>NORTA</a>, <a href='http://www.busdrawings.com/Transit/washington/seattle/1986americana/index.htm' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow'>Seattle</a> (although the rear windows are illustrated), <a href='http://busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=500' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow'>Charlotte</a> (note more modern treatment of headsign area), <a href='http://busexplorer.com/PHP/MidPage.php?id=503' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow'>World Trans</a>, and <a href=' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow'>Minneapolis.</a><br /><br />Maybe this <a href='http://www.reocities.com/buslist/Delivery/MAN.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow'>delivery list</a> helps; searching it for "792" also turns up Harris County (presumably Texas), but Bus Explorer says that the World Trans ones are ex-Houston. So, I'm stumped. Maybe Fifth-Third had it air conditioned after they got it.<br /><br /><br /><br /> I'm pretty sure the bus belongs to these folk: http://www.communityconnect.org/ It's a mobile computer lab, used for education in low income areas. The buses get pretty extensive modifications to serve that purpose, so I doubt the roof equipment is original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 <br /><br /><br /> I'm pretty sure the bus belongs to these folk: http://www.communityconnect.org/ It's a mobile computer lab, used for education in low income areas. The buses get pretty extensive modifications to serve that purpose, so I doubt the roof equipment is original. No we were trying to figure out where the bus previously served as a regular in service transit bus, not the current owners of the bus. Thanks for the heads up about the roof equipment though. So after looking at the links Busjack provided, from the exhaust pipe on the rear top left of the bus and the styling of the windows, I think my original hypothesis that it's ex-Seattle appears to hold up since Seattle picked up a 1986 variant of this model that included the exhaust pipe at the top rear or the bus instead of in a lower less visible position as CTA's and those of the other cities and TAs that had them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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