NovaBusFan Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 10:58 PM, Policeman said: I'm guessing 606 is now at Chicago Nah it’s still hanging at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted August 24, 2021 Report Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 10:58 PM, Policeman said: I'm guessing 606 is now at Chicago It's still at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policeman Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: It's still at SS. So it was just moving around for no reason then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 16 hours ago, Policeman said: I'm guessing 606 is now at Chicago So it was just moving around for no reason then Weren't you just "guessing"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policeman Posted August 25, 2021 Report Share Posted August 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, chicagocubs6323 said: Weren't you just "guessing"? Naw i was just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policeman Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Anyone else noticing that the Proterra's start on the 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 48 minutes ago, Policeman said: Anyone else noticing that the Proterra's start on the 12? Me but eventually they go on the 66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Policeman said: Anyone else noticing that the Proterra's start on the 12? C operates some morning rush trips on the 12. I wonder if and when we will see the rollout of the 45 Proterras. O don't think they will retire the 6400s like the 8350s will, but at some point they need to put them on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 #606 and #607 are almost ready for action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policeman Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 2 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: #606 and #607 are almost ready for action. Why does it look like an electric gillig ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klabstep Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 11:27 AM, Policeman said: Why does it look like an electric gillig ? No it doesn't. When did Gillig start making electric buses? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Policeman Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, klabstep said: No it doesn't. When did Gillig start making electric buses? ? I said "why" not "it is" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBusFan Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 8:40 AM, YoungBusLover said: #606 and #607 are almost ready for action. My man, they look so gigantic, the top part of the bus is nearly touching the ceiling otherwise I like the design better than the BE40s?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBusFan Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 4:51 PM, artthouwill said: C operates some morning rush trips on the 12. I wonder if and when we will see the rollout of the 45 Proterras. O don't think they will retire the 6400s like the 8350s will, but at some point they need to put them on the road. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 13 hours ago, klabstep said: No it doesn't. When did Gillig start making electric buses? ? Recently. Hard to say exactly when, especially considering that the Battery Electric looks nearly identical to the Low Floor Plus, but it's probably safe to assume it's been in development since late 2019 and orders/fulfillments have been made mid-to-late 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 8:40 AM, YoungBusLover said: #606 and #607 are almost ready for action. I think they look better I'm interested in how they run. They remind me of the old tails of the 60s era GM fishbowls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 21, 2021 Report Share Posted September 21, 2021 No wonder Pace is interested cta has them almost in the same shade as pace blue. Somehow I think the north livery will be different than the standard pace livery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaBusFan Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 8:42 AM, BusHunter said: No wonder Pace is interested cta has them almost in the same shade as pace blue. Somehow I think the north livery will be different than the standard pace livery. On the BE40s the blue wrap is really similar to the Blue that PACE buses have. It looks ZX5s have it a little softer blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 9/21/2021 at 8:42 AM, BusHunter said: No wonder Pace is interested cta has them almost in the same shade as pace blue. Somehow I think the north livery will be different than the standard pace livery. I don't know why the RTA doesn't bid on behalf of both CTA AND PACE. Or at the very least both agencies submit a joint RFP for electric buses. I don't expect PACE to put out bids for artics nor do I expect CYA to solicit bids for OTR coaches, but they can do somethings together. Since New Flyer owns MCI, could Pace strike a deal to get coaches and electric buses from them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 58 minutes ago, artthouwill said: I don't know why the RTA doesn't bid on behalf of both CTA AND PACE. Or at the very least both agencies submit a joint RFP for electric buses. I don't expect PACE to put out bids for artics nor do I expect CYA to solicit bids for OTR coaches, but they can do somethings together. Since New Flyer owns MCI, could Pace strike a deal to get coaches and electric buses from them? Disclaimer: I know you specified electric buses, but in case anyone else might be curious as to why this isn't a regular thing in general, I'm listing out some possible reasons below The agencies rarely need to order at the same time I have to imagine the specs requirements are at least different on some level Pace and CTA don't order buses in the same quantity Does Pace even have a fleet a 1/3rd the size of CTA's? Maybe just that? I haven't seen a Pace order exceed ~100 buses, when has CTA ordered so few in the last two decades outside of exercising contract options or other special circumstances? To your point specifically about electric buses, I'm sure there are some logistical and maybe even financial reasons why they don't. Maybe even political (XYZ municipality doesn't want to pay for XYZ buses for other XYZ municipality is something I could easily see as a headline, regardless of whether or not that's actually how it works). Who's buses would get built first? Who takes delivery first? or is it at the same time? Do they need to be delivered to the same facility? These might seem like questions with obvious answers, but it could be more complicated than that. Additionally, RTA's primary focus is oversight, then money distribution. They might not want to put out a joint bid, simply because they aren't equipped to. CTA and Pace could probably do that on their own, without going through the RTA, it wouldn't be the first time two different agencies collaborated on a bus order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, NewFlyerMCI said: Disclaimer: I know you specified electric buses, but in case anyone else might be curious as to why this isn't a regular thing in general, I'm listing out some possible reasons below The agencies rarely need to order at the same time I have to imagine the specs requirements are at least different on some level Pace and CTA don't order buses in the same quantity Does Pace even have a fleet a 1/3rd the size of CTA's? Maybe just that? I haven't seen a Pace order exceed ~100 buses, when has CTA ordered so few in the last two decades outside of exercising contract options or other special circumstances? To your point specifically about electric buses, I'm sure there are some logistical and maybe even financial reasons why they don't. Maybe even political (XYZ municipality doesn't want to pay for XYZ buses for other XYZ municipality is something I could easily see as a headline, regardless of whether or not that's actually how it works). Who's buses would get built first? Who takes delivery first? or is it at the same time? Do they need to be delivered to the same facility? These might seem like questions with obvious answers, but it could be more complicated than that. Additionally, RTA's primary focus is oversight, then money distribution. They might not want to put out a joint bid, simply because they aren't equipped to. CTA and Pace could probably do that on their own, without going through the RTA, it wouldn't be the first time two different agencies collaborated on a bus order. Looks like #1. Seems like after everyone modernized fleets retirement ages for buses from each agency don’t seem mesh and fall at the same time enough. I think maybe some axess buses or cngs MIGHT have arrived around the same time as some novas but that about the only two contracts between the two that would be eligible for retirement around the same years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 Was going nuts for a minute. Saw #605 with digital taillights. I remember the pace electric bus brochure with regular tailights. Was thinking cta retrofitted those but it's probably just an option to order that way for the cta spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted September 22, 2021 Report Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Sam92 said: Looks like #1. Seems like after everyone modernized fleets retirement ages for buses from each agency don’t seem mesh and fall at the same time enough. I think maybe some axess buses or cngs MIGHT have arrived around the same time as some novas but that about the only two contracts between the two that would be eligible for retirement around the same years? Yeah, shouldn't the average age for Pace's fleet be about ~5 years, give or take some? Especially once those last NABI's are gone, it'll only be the EZ Rider II's that were delivered before 2010? @artthouwilldid have a point, CTA & Pace could both order electric buses on a joint order, especially since it would be fleet expansion and not replacement (at least for right now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 There is a white Proterra on the 79th fence at 77th. So with #607 wrapped is that #608? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted September 23, 2021 Report Share Posted September 23, 2021 10 hours ago, BusHunter said: There is a white Proterra on the 79th fence at 77th. So with #607 wrapped is that #608? You're correct my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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