More Bus Moves

[ajm522]

2 hours ago, jajuan said:

Traffic must really be a mess in downtown tonight because BusTracker was actually showing bus #1922 working as a #136 just getting to Lake Shore Drive from Wacker Drive a few minutes ago and the last trip for the PM rush of that route should actually be just finishing up at Devon/Broadway about now. So that bus is a good 45 mins behind at least. 

Yesterday was worse in comparison. Was on a 10 string of SB 29's. There were so many supervisors out yesterday. Today seemed a little better and they didn't reroute Michigan Avenue Busses like they did yesterday.

[jajuan]

31 minutes ago, ajm522 said:

Yesterday was worse in comparison. Was on a 10 string of SB 29's. There were so many supervisors out yesterday. Today seemed a little better and they didn't reroute Michigan Avenue Busses like they did yesterday.

So the NFL Draft may be a fun event if you're attending, but it's not so fun for city traffic in the area.

[geneking7320]

On 4/27/2016 at 1:58 PM, jajuan said:

Yeah it's like the city refuses to make the connection that part of the reason traffic congestion is in part made worse by the overkill made in throwing up all these extra bike lanes at the expense of motorized vehicular traffic.

<Begin Rant>

I can think of two CTA routes negatively impacted by the bike lanes (a) #29 State north of 26th street (b) #30 South Chicago [anywhere the bike lanes are on South Chicago avenue. I think an alternative for bike lane placement (in the case of State street) would have been Wabash between  Roosevelt and 24th street. More bad moves by CDOT.

<End Rant>.

[patman119]

8198 is in service now. Currently on the 65 as of 9:22AM this morning.

[jajuan]

11 hours ago, geneking7320 said:

<Begin Rant>

I can think of two CTA routes negatively impacted by the bike lanes (a) #29 State north of 26th street (b) #30 South Chicago [anywhere the bike lanes are on South Chicago avenue. I think an alternative for bike lane placement (in the case of State street) would have been Wabash between  Roosevelt and 24th street. More bad moves by CDOT.

<End Rant>.

Ha ha you can add the #36 to that. It used to be the buses could move faster along Broadway after passing Sheridan and Montrose because that's where the street used to open to two lanes in each direction from just one after contending with a combination of traffic signals and stop signs slowing the traffic flow starting roughly near Halsted. But CDOT under Emanuel killed that after placing those blasted bikel lanes in what used to be a traffic lane from Montrose up to Foster. 

[BusHunter]

1 hour ago, patman119 said:

8198 is in service now. Currently on the 65 as of 9:22AM this morning.

I checked it was at south shops from 3/13, not 3/23, so it was down there for 45 days. I guess it's part came in. It doesn't make sense, send #8197 to FG to watch it set and then fix #8198 and send it out anyway. Obviously what wasn't working on Wednesday started working by today or yesterday. A friendly blog about it probably doesn't hurt either as you are now pointing other people's attention to it.

Even stranger is again no #1000 bus transfers. I wonder why it was so important for 103rd to get a numerical fleet? They probably should have worked on 74th. This is probably going to delay NF's getting tsp's unless they do the #1500's. 

 

[ajm522]

Lots of high number Red Line runs out for NFL extras. I saw 843,841,939,937. 

[sw4400]

On ‎4‎/‎28‎/‎2016 at 2:58 PM, BusOps said:

No movement on #8197 & #8199 today. They're parked in the spots.

There doing something with them currently, even when parked. This is probably where FG Mechanics are getting looks at them by already trained personnel. They don't have to be in the building to get a overview. Even plugging into a computer for diagnostics, if it's a portable laptop or system, is possible. Also, Bus Operators I'm sure are allowed to board and look them over.... they aren't allowed to do lot drives with them, but can look at components and might even be able to operate the bus parked in "N".... try the kneeler, ramp, internal components, etc....

In garmon's photo here, #8110 was partially inspected outside the shop by South Shops and Prevost personnel, hence why the engine cover was up.

[BusHunter]

5 hours ago, patman119 said:

8198 is in service now. Currently on the 65 as of 9:22AM this morning.

Interesting, it was only out for 2 and a 1/2 hours. (9:10 AM to 11:40 AM) Maybe it still has a few issues unless the issue is it's bus tracking system. I'd say it was a tripper but there are no trippers on saturday just maybe extras.

[BusHunter]

It's Mad Max over here on west belmont. A bunch of poles are traveling in a street armada doing donuts and burnouts. First they were at cumberland in the lot. Then they went en mass to white castle. They were blocking traffic too. A real circus out west here.

[sw4400]

1 hour ago, BusHunter said:

It's Mad Max over here on west belmont. A bunch of poles are traveling in a street armada doing donuts and burnouts. First they were at cumberland in the lot. Then they went en mass to white castle. They were blocking traffic too. A real circus out west here.

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[BusHunter]

1 hour ago, sw4400 said:

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Yeah and I was traveling with them on my nova bus. Crazy!! I guess it's polish day or something. I wish someone would have told me that before I decided to wear red today!! It was like a flash mob only it was with cars and motorcycles. You know they were just ahead of us and by the time we got to White Castle at Harlem, they were all pulling in a whole lot full. They did a burnout right there as we did our Harlem service stop. Everyone had their cell phones recording it. (like 3 guys.) Even some guy on the bus was recording. LOL!! The River Grove police were down in ex Dominick's lot in River Grove, so maybe they chased some of them off but it was a good 50-100 cars and motorcycles.

[RJL6000]

After a two-week hiatus, the 1000-series New Flyer "swapocalypse" resumes. This weekend, all except Chicago and North Park are involved.

Kedzie received buses #1577-#1583, #1721, #1726-#1729 and #1731-#1738 from 74th.

Forest Glen received #1034-#1039 from 103rd.

103rd received #1212, #1213, #1215, #1216 and #1218 from 77th.

103rd received #1214 and #1217 from Kedzie.

77th received #1223, #1235, #1250, #1251 and #1254-#1256 from Kedzie.

74th received #1439-#1451 from Kedzie.

77th received #1342, #1343, #1346, #1350-#1353 and #1366-#1368 from 74th.

74th received #1452-#1467 and #1472 from 77th.

In the coming future weekends, Kedzie will send all of its remaining #1200s and most of its #1300s to 77th, in exchange for #1587-#1596 and 77th's remaining #1600s. The buses in the #1473-#1494 and #1540-#1548 groups will eventually end up at 74th, along with perhaps part of the #1560-#1576 group

And this latest swap comes at a time when Forest Glen is getting prepared to receive brand-new Nova Bus LFS Smart Buses #8200 on up to replace most of its remaining #6400s.

[BusHunter]

Sounds about right but #1739 to Kedzie sounds like that's getting kind of high for them. That only leaves 290 buses for the north garages, NP and chicago. Possibly it's right at the cutoff. I need to look up my numerical sequence roster cause that's really close.

[BusHunter]

On 4/10/2016 at 1:53 PM, BusHunter said:

He's been calling the psychic friends network? Really he may not be that far off the mark, if you figure 176 buses at 103rd from 1034 what do you get? 1210. That being said, does that mean FG won't get anymore NF's? Possibly, but I think it does give more support that FG will then get the #8200's. That leaves 60-80 #6400's depending on the #8325 option. A little extra retiring for new equipment and they could be down to 30 or less #6400's at FG in 2017. Only thing is I don't think the south side is going to let the north side take all the newer #1000's. Somewhere someone will probably share with them. According then to his math and mine then this would be the end result

(1) 1034-1210

(7) 1211-1382

(6) 1383-1556

(K) 1557-1741

(P) 1742-1894

(C) 1895-2029

I hate to say it but all the transfers so far seem to reflect that.

hmm, #1739 does reflect what we have been projecting.

[garmon757]

4 hours ago, RJL6000 said:

After a two-week hiatus, the 1000-series New Flyer "swapocalypse" resumes.

Kedzie received buses #1577-#1583, #1721, #1726-#1729 and #1731-#1739 from 74th.

77th received #1254-#1256 (and maybe various other #1200s) from Kedzie. #1214 is still currently at Kedzie for the time being.

74th received #1439-#1451 from Kedzie.

77th received #1342, #1343, #1346, #1350-#1353 and #1366-#1368 from 74th.

74th received #1452-#1467 from 77th.

There might have been some more buses swapped between the three garages besides those that I mentioned.

And this latest swap comes at a time when Forest Glen is getting prepared to receive brand-new Nova Bus LFS Smart Buses #8200 on up to replace most of its remaining #6400s.

I can see this happening:

77th: #1214, #1217, #1223, #1235, #1250, #1251, #1271, #1272, #1280 - #1283 from Kedzie

Kedzie: #1587 - #1596, #1601, #1603, #1606, #1620 from 77th.

 

77th: #1258 - #1262, #1277 - #1279, #1313 - #1328, #1331 - #1334, #1336, #1338, #1339, #1348, #1349 from North Park

North Park: #1900, #1901, #1904 - #1918 (even numbers), #1926, #1927, #1929 from 77th

 

 

 

[ajm522]

1 hour ago, garmon757 said:

I can see this happening:

77th: #1214, #1217, #1223, #1235, #1250, #1251, #1271, #1272, #1280 - #1283 from Kedzie

Kedzie: #1587 - #1596, #1601, #1603, #1606, #1620 from 77th.

 

77th: #1258 - #1262, #1277 - #1279, #1313 - #1328, #1331 - #1334, #1336, #1338, #1339, #1348, #1349 from North Park

North Park: #1900, #1901, #1904 - #1918 (even numbers), #1926, #1927, #1929 from 77th

 

 

 

Then NP also receives 1928 from K but then gives away 1947, 1961 and 1997/98 to C 

[jajuan]

3 hours ago, BusHunter said:

hmm, #1739 does reflect what we have been projecting.

With some slight adjustments apparently since 1211 went to 103rd instead of 77th. 

[garmon757]

2 hours ago, ajm522 said:

Then NP also receives 1928 from K but then gives away 1947, 1961 and 1997/98 to C 

You forgot #1965 to Chicago also.  

[garmon757]

Anybody realized that #1218 is at 103rd while operating #71?

[jajuan]

2 hours ago, garmon757 said:

Anybody realized that #1218 is at 103rd while operating #71?

Hmmm with 1214 still at K operating on the #12 today and other 1200s higher than 1211 having been in the process of moves to 77th as of late, it makes it tricky in determining if 1218 is assigned to 103rd or loaned there.

[RJL6000]

I also forgot to mention that #1472 also made the trip from 77th to 74th along with #1452-#1467 that were mentioned earlier.

[garmon757]

2 hours ago, RJL6000 said:

I also forgot to mention that #1472 also made the trip from 77th to 74th along with #1452-#1467 that were mentioned earlier.

It can be a possibility that 74th can get 1473-1494 and 74th forfeit 1550-1559 and/or 77th forfeiting 1541-1548 and 1560-1576. 74th should keep 1741-1760. Here's what I'm predicting based off the swaps and soon to come 8200s.

Forest Glen: 1000-1124

103rd: 1125-1299

77th: 1300-1429

74th: 1430-1549

Kedzie: 1550-1739

74th: 1740-1779

North Park: 1780-1849

77th: 1850-1899

Chicago: 1900-2029

I did the best I can to make this prediction even out the current roster except for Forest Glen. 

 

[BusHunter]

1 hour ago, garmon757 said:

It can be a possibility that 74th can get 1473-1494 and 74th forfeit 1550-1559 and/or 77th forfeiting 1541-1548 and 1560-1576. 74th should keep 1741-1760. Here's what I'm predicting based off the swaps and soon to come 8200s.

Forest Glen: 1000-1124

103rd: 1125-1299

77th: 1300-1429

74th: 1430-1549

Kedzie: 1550-1739

74th: 1740-1779

North Park: 1780-1849

77th: 1850-1899

Chicago: 1900-2029

I did the best I can to make this prediction even out the current roster except for Forest Glen. 

 

So you think the south side will get some higher numbered #1000's? Maybe, but why would 103rd go and get all the low buses already if it wasn't going to keep them? Like I say in a way it makes sense in that if there was a bus order then the south side should get it's fleet replaced first and the north side last. I don't think FG will get many more #1000's, probably not more than 30-40 in a perfect world. The only way they could get 125 #1000's is if #8276 - #8325 or #8349 went to 103rd, but the guidelines would then be different because the south side would get the newest buses and probably would get first replacements on that order if the fleet stood up for 12 years or whenever they were to be replaced. There really seems to be method in this transferring madness. I can't really complain about the fleets cause I think it's fair. It simplifies the fleets also, the only trouble is trying to maintain it, because buses go here and there during the picks. What sounds good on paper doesn't always work in reality. 

[dann]

5 hours ago, garmon757 said:

It can be a possibility that 74th can get 1473-1494 and 74th forfeit 1550-1559 and/or 77th forfeiting 1541-1548 and 1560-1576. 74th should keep 1741-1760. Here's what I'm predicting based off the swaps and soon to come 8200s.

Forest Glen: 1000-1124

103rd: 1125-1299

77th: 1300-1429

74th: 1430-1549

Kedzie: 1550-1739

74th: 1740-1779

North Park: 1780-1849

77th: 1850-1899

Chicago: 1900-2029

I did the best I can to make this prediction even out the current roster except for Forest Glen. 

 

I don't see this scenario happening for (at least) 4 reasons:

1) It looks like you're assuming that the old Novas will all be retired, and that ain't happening. I can see maybe 50-70 old Novas (6700s, 6800s) still in service through at least Spring 2017; the CTA has been known to keep buses in service for 16 years in the past.

2) While the CTA has done some boneheaded things before, they're not going to break up the group of NFs at 103rd after going to all the trouble of bringing them there in the first place.

3) You're leaving NP with only 200 or so buses (70 NFs, 130 artics) and that'll be inadequate; keep in mind NP is really the only garage on the North Side, FG is on the Northwest Side.

4) You have K with more than 260 buses total (190 NFs, 701, 800-809 and artics 4000-4052 and 4198-4207). They had issues with parking buses overnight and it's already been established that that many buses is more than that garage can handle.