More Bus Moves

[jajuan]

18 minutes ago, wordguy said:

Regarding the 1750s to Chicago as a fluke,  I'm with Jajuan.  Temporary transfers don't seem that unusual.  A few months ago,  a cluster of 1130s & 40s made their way from 74th to Kedzie.  Just a few weeks later,  they were shifted to 103rd.  It wouldn't surprise me to see those 1750s soldier on to North Park sometime soon,  possibly in exchange for low 1900s and the 5 oddball Allisons now at NP.

Either that or Kedzie depending on what the endpoints of the NF block there turns out to be. The beginning and end right now at Kedzie still seems to be in flux. And remember Kedzie's NF allotment does need to hover at about 180-190 to go with its approximately 65 artics because it has no Novas while one electric bus and about six or seven DE40LFs are its only other 40 foot buses.

[garmon757]

Well hot dingily damn, 74th just got buses #1563 and #1564 from 77th so far! Stay tuned for more swaps throughout the day because it's a possibility that 74th might have buses #1540-48.

[RJL6000]

39 minutes ago, garmon757 said:

Well hot dingily damn, 74th just got buses #1563 and #1564 from 77th so far! Stay tuned for more swaps throughout the day because it's a possibility that 74th might have buses #1540-48.

And 74th just lost most if not all of its remaining 1800s to North Park. Thus, North Park should be sending most if not all of its remaining 1300s to 77th.

By the way, in addition to #1540-48 and #1560-64, #1492-94 should now be at 74th.

[jajuan]

9 minutes ago, RJL6000 said:

And 74th just lost most if not all of its remaining 1800s to North Park. Thus, North Park should be sending most if not all of its remaining 1300s to 77th.

North Park still has 1392 which is on the #36, so that would have to stay at most at best for this round if it did send buses to 77th.

[RJL6000]

1 minute ago, jajuan said:

North Park still has 1392 which is on the #36, so that would have to stay at most at best for this round if it did send buses to 77th.

What I meant there was #1317-28, the 1330s and 1340s that had remained at North Park until now, and #1375.

[garmon757]

13 minutes ago, RJL6000 said:

And 74th just lost most if not all of its remaining 1800s to North Park. Thus, North Park should be sending most if not all of its remaining 1300s to 77th.

By the way, in addition to #1540-48 and #1560-64, #1492-94 should now be at 74th.

#1494 made it to 74th yesterday, in which I forgot to mention that. I figured that most of the 1800s would be gone from 74th. 

[jajuan]

2 minutes ago, RJL6000 said:

What I meant there was #1317-28, the 1330s and 1340s that had remained at North Park until now, and #1375.

Haven't found any evidence of it yet of any exchange from NP to 77th from a quick spot check. But the day is still young. 

[RJL6000]

And I know that Kedzie is sitting out this weekend's swaps because it still has #1357-62, #1364, #1365, #1369-74, #1376 and #1378-80 that should have been at 77th while 77th still has #1587-96, #1601, #1603, #1606 and #1620. Also, Kedzie still has #1798 and the 1800s that will ultimately end up at North Park.

#1565-76 will most likely be split between 74th and Kedzie.

Finally, the even-numbered 1800s that were formerly at 74th but are now at North Park reached as high as #1892. That leaves #1894, #1896 and #1898 still in limbo.

[Mr.cta85]

18 minutes ago, RJL6000 said:

And I know that Kedzie is sitting out this weekend's swaps because it still has #1357-62, #1364, #1365, #1369-74, #1376 and #1378-80 that should have been at 77th while 77th still has #1587-96, #1601, #1603, #1606 and #1620. Also, Kedzie still has #1798 and the 1800s that will ultimately end up at North Park.

#1565-76 will most likely be split between 74th and Kedzie.

Finally, the even-numbered 1800s that were formerly at 74th but are now at North Park reached as high as #1892. That leaves #1894, #1896 and #1898 still in limbo.

Those late 1890's should be there soon if not already lol. I saw all the 1800's lined up and ready to go last night.

[jajuan]

30 minutes ago, RJL6000 said:

And I know that Kedzie is sitting out this weekend's swaps because it still has #1357-62, #1364, #1365, #1369-74, #1376 and #1378-80 that should have been at 77th while 77th still has #1587-96, #1601, #1603, #1606 and #1620. Also, Kedzie still has #1798 and the 1800s that will ultimately end up at North Park.

#1565-76 will most likely be split between 74th and Kedzie.

Finally, the even-numbered 1800s that were formerly at 74th but are now at North Park reached as high as #1892. That leaves #1894, #1896 and #1898 still in limbo.

Also the 1300s you mentioned that should likely go to 77th are so far also in limbo and haven't shown up on the road this morning. If NP did swap any of them this round, looks like 77th is holding them inside.

[garmon757]

#1493 has made it to 74th while #1929 is still at Kedzie for the second straight day. 

[ajm522]

13 minutes ago, garmon757 said:

#1493 has made it to 74th while #1929 is still at Kedzie for the second straight day. 

That is odd. Especially since 1928/29 used to be together at K

[garmon757]

10 minutes ago, ajm522 said:

That is odd. Especially since 1928/29 used to be together at K

Indeed they were. 

[RJL6000]

#1546 was still at 77th this morning, but the rest of 77th's 1540s have already made the trip to 74th. #1546 should be at 74th shortly if not today. And I forgot to mention that #1565 has also made it to 74th.

Thus, 74th should now have almost the entire group (except for maybe one or two buses) from #1405 to #1565. #1422 is also in limbo right now; it was last run on a Chicago Garage route.

[garmon757]

Whoa! #1761 is on #70 right now!

[wordguy]

Many of the low 1300s appear to have migrated southward from NP.  As I write,  1324, 1328,  1331, 1332, & 1336 are showing up on 77th St. runs. (1322 is still at NP).

Meanwhile, 1892 & 1898, fresh arrivals at NP.  are both operating on Broadway this evening.

[RJL6000]

As of this evening, #1322 and #1375 are still at North Park, but #1323 (in addition to the buses #1324, #1328, #1331, #1332 and #1336 that have been reported at about the same time I made this post) have now been spotted on 77th routes. #1348 and #1349 are still in limbo at this time.

Thus, I am assuming that #1325-27, #1333 and #1334 (and maybe #1338 and #1339) have also made the trip to 77th.

By the way, I forgot to mention that #1858 also made the trip from 74th to North Park when the former sent its remaining high 1700s and some of its 1800s to the latter last weekend.

Also, there should now be no more 1800s at 74th. The last of the ones that remained there until now should all now be at North Park.

[jajuan]

5 hours ago, garmon757 said:

Whoa! #1761 is on #70 right now!

That's  dumb when NP now has a majority of the 1800s and when Chicago has been getting 1900s. In that circumstance NP should be keeping 1700s, not giving them away.

[BusHunter]

Looks like 77th is getting #1317-22. #1319 is currently on the #8. #1338 is also on the #3, so 77th probably got #1338-39. I'm still trying to figure out if #1740, #1741 and #1743 left 74th, but they probably did. Why would 74th leave 3 odd buses? Other than those 3 74th now has a consecutive numbered fleet, so it would be the second garage finished so far.

[garmon757]

9 hours ago, jajuan said:

That's  dumb when NP now has a majority of the 1800s and when Chicago has been getting 1900s. In that circumstance NP should be keeping 1700s, not giving them away.

Btw, this isn't the first time #1761 was at Chicago because it oddly went there last year after it got rehabbed during the summer pick. 

[jajuan]

3 hours ago, BusHunter said:

Looks like 77th is getting #1317-22. #1319 is currently on the #8. #1338 is also on the #3, so 77th probably got #1338-39. I'm still trying to figure out if #1740, #1741 and #1743 left 74th, but they probably did. Why would 74th leave 3 odd buses? Other than those 3 74th now has a consecutive numbered fleet, so it would be the second garage finished so far.

Possibly but I think 77th may still have some 1500s that may go there if Kedzie doesn't get them. Depends on whether they want Kedzie to start in the mid-1560s or the 1570s.

[jajuan]

Now that it's Memorial Day weekend, isn't this the point that the weekend portion of beach extensions of 35, 63, 72 and 78 supposed to begin? Route descriptions on the system map, CTA website, and the respective route schedules all say it's supposed to be the case. Yet I haven't seen CTA make any mention of it anywhere through the usual reminders in its press releases or through the media, and I haven't seen any evidence through destination signs on the 72 or 78 while riding CTA for work this weekend that services have begun yet. Is it that it actually has to be Memorial Day before those services start even though route descriptions say the extensions during weekends begin Memorial Day weekend and not Memorial Day?

[Busjack]

2 hours ago, jajuan said:

Now that it's Memorial Day weekend, isn't this the point that the weekend portion of beach extensions of 35, 63, 72 and 78 supposed to begin? Route descriptions on the system map, CTA website, and the respective route schedules all say it's supposed to be the case. Yet I haven't seen CTA make any mention of it anywhere through the usual reminders in its press releases or through the media, and I haven't seen any evidence through destination signs on the 72 or 78 while riding CTA for work this weekend that services have begun yet. Is it that it actually has to be Memorial Day before those services start even though route descriptions say the extensions during weekends begin Memorial Day weekend and not Memorial Day?

Beaches officially opened May 27. You are correct there is nothing on the CTA site, including upcoming alerts, or Memorial Weekend events.

I seem to remember from last year that some of the beach trips were short trips until the pick, but they were at least announced. But I might be wrong.

 

[jajuan]

1 hour ago, Busjack said:

Beaches officially opened May 27. You are correct there is nothing on the CTA site, including upcoming alerts, or Memorial Weekend events.

I seem to remember from last year that some of the beach trips were short trips until the pick, but they were at least announced. But I might be wrong.

 

Yes you're right last year some of the beach trips in the final weeks of the spring pick were indeed "beach shuttle" short trips that were essentially covered by one bus per route because of how short those trips were. I also remember that these were essentially done of the garages' extra boards instead of their regular boards covering weekends. If that's the case this year, then I most likely wouldn't see them from Western which is the north-south route I rode most this weekend. Also if CTA didn't have enough extras from the extra board this year to kick off the beach runs thus far, they need to change that service to the beach "each weekend between Memorial Day weekend and Labor Day weekend" part of the respective route descriptions. I notice though that the 130 began on time from its mention in alerts and releases regarding Soldier Field service for the Beyonce concerts and those mentioning detours from the Memorial Day parade, the Fleet Feet Sports Soldier Field Race, and the annual Bike the Drive event. 

[RJL6000]

As of right now, 74th now has an entire group of buses from #1405 to #1565. Ex-Chicago Garage bus #1422 was on route #47 yesterday night while #1546 (which was still at 77th this past Saturday) is showing up on route #75 today. Thus, other than a few additional buses owed by 77th to 74th, that's all for 74th as far as the swaps are concerned.