jajuan Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 4 hours ago, RJL6000 said: As of right now, 74th now has an entire group of buses from #1405 to #1565. Ex-Chicago Garage bus #1422 was on route #47 yesterday night while #1546 (which was still at 77th this past Saturday) is showing up on route #75 today. Thus, other than a few additional buses owed by 77th to 74th, that's all for 74th as far as the swaps are concerned. If 1740, 1741 and 1741 left 74th for Kedzie, then yeah the actual swapping buses out from 74th is done. But looking at the 161 count in that group of NFs, adding that to the 99 in service Novas and noting 74th's total bus count doesn't typically go far beyond 260 suggests they may be done with 74th completely as FG and 103rd now seem to be complete for now. So it looks like 77th NFs will settle down to 1219-1404 for a count of 186 buses when all is said and done (@garmon757 it looks like you were right my friend about 77th stopping in the low 1400s instead of upper 1300s since FG getting a few more NFs a little after the time of my hypothesizing 74th may get some 1390s changed the math a bit). It also would appear the remaining 1500s at 77th may indeed go to Kedzie, meaning Kedzie NFs will start at 1566 with the cutoff being about the 1752 mark that it's currently sitting. That's a 187 NF count when done, meaning the swapping has Kedzie short by about 7 buses.currently looking at BH's roster list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 32 minutes ago, jajuan said: meaning the swapping has Kedzie short by about 7 buses.currently looking at BH's roster list. Which, I'm sure gets down to how much K work was moved to C, and also how many artics are left at K. Anyway, it is starting to look like it is sorting out, such as when you sort a deck of cards, what's left after about 2/3rds is also about in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted May 30, 2016 Report Share Posted May 30, 2016 17 minutes ago, Busjack said: Which, I'm sure gets down to how much K work was moved to C, and also how many artics are left at K. Anyway, it is starting to look like it is sorting out, such as when you sort a deck of cards, what's left after about 2/3rds is also about in order. Probably, but I was also getting at recent observations by Garmon that Kedzie was short buses last week to need to borrow a few 1900s from 77th. But you are correct that overall it looks to be fleet numbers are close to being in order (with an exception it would seem of 1753-1760 going from 74th to C). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Ummm is 74th short because #1223 is on #55A, #1313 is on #55, and #1912 is on #49 (no, it's not a North Park run). Also, #1929 and #1934 are still at Kedzie. @jajuan, it's gets down to the wire whether or not 77th or North Park ends at #1399, between #1400-05, or just #1405. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 1 hour ago, garmon757 said: Ummm is 74th short because #1223 is on #55A, #1313 is on #55, and #1912 is on #49 (no, it's not a North Park run). Also, #1929 and #1934 are still at Kedzie. @jajuan, it's gets down to the wire whether or not 77th or North Park ends at #1399, between #1400-05, or just #1405. Or does 77th have that many extras on its hands to send out buses temporarily to other garages? (1313 should be a recent transfer from NP to 77th) Both our questions are reasonable ones. Also both 77th and NP still have buses that appear meant to be part of upcoming swaps still to be done. So if 74th doesn't get additional NFs (either 1400-05 from NP or the remaining 1560s from 77th), then the remaining upper 1300s at NP as well as 1400-04, since 1405 is now at 74th, should be meant for 77th. It doesn't seem likely that with the swaps left to go that they'll be letting those particular buses remain at NP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm522 Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 On May 29, 2016 at 8:26 AM, BusHunter said: Looks like 77th is getting #1317-22. #1319 is currently on the #8. #1338 is also on the #3, so 77th probably got #1338-39. I'm still trying to figure out if #1740, #1741 and #1743 left 74th, but they probably did. Why would 74th leave 3 odd buses? Other than those 3 74th now has a consecutive numbered fleet, so it would be the second garage finished so far. With 1929 and 1934 what are your thoughts. Are those becoming permanent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 1740 is on the #82 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 11 hours ago, jajuan said: Or does 77th have that many extras on its hands to send out buses temporarily to other garages? (1313 should be a recent transfer from NP to 77th) Both our questions are reasonable ones. Also both 77th and NP still have buses that appear meant to be part of upcoming swaps still to be done. So if 74th doesn't get additional NFs (either 1400-05 from NP or the remaining 1560s from 77th), then the remaining upper 1300s at NP as well as 1400-04, since 1405 is now at 74th, should be meant for 77th. It doesn't seem likely that with the swaps left to go that they'll be letting those particular buses remain at NP. 77th has been causing problems when it comes to a stable fleet. I don't see what's the hold up releasing #1566-76, #1587-96, #1600, #1603, #1606, and #1620 to make sure Kedzie receives them. Things would've been running smoothly if they stop acting so stingy. Otherwise, what's the point having 3 of their buses operating 74th routes today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, garmon757 said: 77th has been causing problems when it comes to a stable fleet. I don't see what's the hold up releasing #1566-76, #1587-96, #1600, #1603, #1606, and #1620 to make sure Kedzie receives them. Things would've been running smoothly if they stop acting so stingy. Otherwise, what's the point having 3 of their buses operating 74th routes today? Doesn't 77th have a higher fleet total though now as they have been the go to garage now that Kedzie has this storage issue. I think there over half done. Now where are my #8200's? Tick Tock Tick Tock, at the tone CTA has 2 hours to go in May. (Beep) I hope I don't have to sing them another song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_KtQ1BqfHM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 6 hours ago, dann said: 1740 is on the #82 now. Yeah Kedzie got #1740, #1741 and #1743. #1741 was on I believe the #35 yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 10 hours ago, ajm522 said: With 1929 and 1934 what are your thoughts. Are those becoming permanent? No probably just loans. I wonder though if anyone's going to be short once the swapapocalypse is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 23 minutes ago, BusHunter said: Doesn't 77th have a higher fleet total though now as they have been the go to garage now that Kedzie has this storage issue. I think there over half done. Now where are my #8200's? Tick Tock Tick Tock, at the tone CTA has 2 hours to go in May. (Beep) I hope I don't have to sing them another song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_KtQ1BqfHM 77th seems to be up though even beyond Kedzie's storage issue, which should have already been fixed somewhat by giving work and buses to Chicago before this current swapocalypse even began. Kedzie now has been down buses to the point of needing loans. Same apparently for 74th earlier today. Now as for the 8200s, when FG gets beyond the current training scenario, we should see them well enough. That takes a bit more patience on our parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, jajuan said: 77th seems to be up though even beyond Kedzie's storage issue, which should have already been fixed somewhat by giving work and buses to Chicago before this current swapocalypse even began. Kedzie now has been down buses to the point of needing loans. Same apparently for 74th earlier today. Now as for the 8200s, when FG gets beyond the current training scenario, we should see them well enough. That takes a bit more patience on our parts. That's why the sequential fleet will be so hard to maintain. When picks change like this summer there is going to be a shift of buses and how then do you keep them sequential when you have like np gaining buses or chicago and places like 74th losing buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, BusHunter said: That's why the sequential fleet will be so hard to maintain. When picks change like this summer there is going to be a shift of buses and how then do you keep them sequential when you have like np gaining buses or chicago and places like 74th losing buses. That's why so many of us were saying that if they were going to go back to sequential blocks, why didn't they go back to at least two sequential blocks per garage like was done when the 1000s first came to the CTA. And TSP at NP and 74th is going to limit any trades at those even further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 You can't be serious right? #1998 is on #91 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 hour ago, garmon757 said: You can't be serious right? #1998 is on #91 right now. Damn I got to see this!! No longitudinal bus has ever ran out of FG!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 3 hours ago, garmon757 said: You can't be serious right? #1998 is on #91 right now. Now that's interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 4 hours ago, garmon757 said: You can't be serious right? #1998 is on #91 right now. 3 hours ago, BusHunter said: Damn I got to see this!! No longitudinal bus has ever ran out of FG!! 21 minutes ago, jajuan said: Now that's interesting. Well, it is a NP bus, and NP helps with some of the FG routes like #152 during school/Cubs trippers(though I don't ride #91 at all..... school tripper???). Late night, I've seen some NP moves running east on Addison and turning north onto Kedzie(the one I saw yesterday was #1383). Where they're coming from as late as 12a, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, sw4400 said: Well, it is a NP bus, and NP helps with some of the FG routes like #152 during school/Cubs trippers(though I don't ride #91 at all..... school tripper???). Taft HS trips are shown on the schedule. Otherwise, probably just a loaner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Bus Moves Over The Weekend 5/29-5/31/16 Buses In 77th = 1317-1328,1331-1334,1336,1338. 74th = 1422,1492-1494,1540-1548,1560-1565. Chicago = 1761. North Park = 1864,1866,1868-1870,1872,1874,1876,1878,1880,1882,1884,1886,1888,1890,1892,1894,1896,1898. Buses Out 77th = 1492-1494,1540-1548,1560-1565. 74th = 1864,1866,1868-1870,1872,1874,1876,1878,1880,1882,1884,1886,1888,1890,1892,1894,1896,1898. Chicago = 1422. North Park = 1317-1328,1331-1334,1336,1338,1761. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Bus Moves over the weekend 5/14-5/15/16 Buses In 77th = 1249,1264,1311,1312,1329,1341,1344,1363,1377. 74th =1414-1421. Chicago = 1753-1760,1929-1931,1935,1936,1939,1941,1944,1945. Buses Out 77th = 1929-1931,1935,1936,1939,1941,1944,1945. 74th = 1753-1760 Chicago = 1249,1264,1311,1312,1329,1341,1344,1363,1377,1414-1421. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 59 minutes ago, sw4400 said: Well, it is a NP bus, and NP helps with some of the FG routes like #152 during school/Cubs trippers(though I don't ride #91 at all..... school tripper???). Late night, I've seen some NP moves running east on Addison and turning north onto Kedzie(the one I saw yesterday was #1383). Where they're coming from as late as 12a, I don't know. FG uses its own buses on the Taft School trippers which as Busjack notes are shown on the schedule. So this is a loan from NP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 31 minutes ago, andrethebusman said: Bus Moves Over The Weekend 5/29-5/31/16 Buses In 77th = 1317-1328,1331-1334,1336,1338. 74th = 1422,1492-1494,1540-1548,1560-1565. Chicago = 1761. North Park = 1864,1866,1868-1870,1872,1874,1876,1878,1880,1882,1884,1886,1888,1890,1892,1894,1896,1898. Buses Out 77th = 1492-1494,1540-1548,1560-1565. 74th = 1864,1866,1868-1870,1872,1874,1876,1878,1880,1882,1884,1886,1888,1890,1892,1894,1896,1898. Chicago = 1422. North Park = 1317-1328,1331-1334,1336,1338,1761. Damn #1761 is a transfer not a borrow. That's weird!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 hour ago, BusHunter said: Damn #1761 is a transfer not a borrow. That's weird!! I just clearly mention that you fool! (Days ago) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusOps Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 5 hours ago, sw4400 said: Well, it is a NP bus, and NP helps with some of the FG routes like #152 during school/Cubs trippers(though I don't ride #91 at all..... school tripper???). Late night, I've seen some NP moves running east on Addison and turning north onto Kedzie(the one I saw yesterday was #1383). Where they're coming from as late as 12a, I don't know. Cub game trippers run that late. When the tripper is done the NP bus turns North towards the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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