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Red Line:(Updated 7/30/20)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

No Cars assigned to this Line

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

No Cars assigned to this Line

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

(386 Cars Total)

5201-5202

5217-5218

5227-5400

5501-5516

5523-5714

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020

Red Line also borrows Purple Line equipment on occasion

Red Line loans out four random 5000-Series cars to the Yellow Line.

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Blue Line:(Updated 12/8/20)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

(258 Cars Total)

2601-2602

2605-2606

2615-2616

2621-2624 

2637-2638

2647-2648

2649-2650

2651-2652

2654-2655

2675-2676

2687-2688

2713-2714

2715-2716

2719-2720

2725-2726

2745-2746

2749-2750

2773-2774

2777-2778

2779-2780

2781-2782

2793-2794

2797-2798

2805-2806

2807-2808

2819-2820

2821-2822

2827-2828

2839-2840

2841-2842

2843-2844

2849-2850

2863-2864

2867-2868

2873-2874

2881-2882

2903-2904

2911-2912

2919-2920

2927-2928

2929-2930

2937-2938

2939-2940

2945-2946

2949-2950

2961-2962

2965-2966

2969-2970

2971-2972

2975-2976

2979-3112

2987-2988

2993-2994

2995-2996

2997-2998

2999-3000

3001-3002

3003-3004

3009-3010

3011-3012

3013-3014

3019-3020

3021-3022

3025-3026

3033-3034

3039-3040

3043-3044

3045-3046

3047-3048

3051-3052

3057-3058

3065-3066

3067-3068

3069-3070

3071-3072

3073-3074

3075-3076

3077-3078

3081-3082

3089-3090

3095-3096

3097-3098

3099-3100

3101-3102

3103-3104

3109-3110

3113-3114

3115-3116

3117-3118

3123-3124

3125-3126

3127-3128

3131-3132

3135-3136

3137-3138

3139-3140

3145-3146

3147-3148

3149-3150

3151-3152

3153-3154

3155-3156

3157-3158

3159-3160

3161-3162

3163-3164

3165-3166

3167-3168

3169-3170

3173-3174

3179-3180

3181-3182

3187-3188

3189-3190

3191-3192

3195-3196

3199-3200                                        

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

(154 Cars Total)

3201-3202

3203-3204

3207-3208

3209-3210

3211-3212

3213-3214

3217-3218

3219-3220

3221-3222

3223-3224

3225-3226

3227-3228

3229-3230

3231-3232

3233-3234

3237-3238

3239-3240

3241-3242

3243-3244

3245-3246

3247-3248

3249-3250

3251-3252

3253-3254

3255-3256

3257-3258

3259-3260

3261-3262

3265-3266

3269-3270

3271-3272

3273-3274

3275-3276

3277-3278

3279-3280

3281-3282

3287-3288

3293-3294

3295-3296

3299-3300

3301-3302

3303-3304

3307-3308

3309-3310

3313-3314

3315-3316

3317-3318

3319-3320

3321-3322

3329-3330

3331-3332

3333-3334

3335-3336

3341-3342

3343-3344

3345-3346

3347-3348

3353-3354

3357-3358

3365-3366

3367-3368

3369-3370

3371-3372

3381-3382

3389-3390

3393-3394

3395-3396

3405-3406

3407-3408

3409-3410

3411-3412

3421-3422

3423-3424

3425-3426

3427-3428

3429-3430

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

No Cars assigned to this Line

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020

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Brown Line:(Updated 12/8/20)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

(58 Cars Total)

2607-2608

2611-2612

2627-2628

2629-2630

2645-2646

2663-2664

2667-2668

2669-2670

2671-2672

2677-2678

2751-2752

2757-2758

2767-2768

2771-2772

2853-2854

2881-2882

2885-2886

2905-2906

2989-2990

3015-3016

3017-3018

3027-3028

3037-3038

3063-3064

3079-3080

3105-3106

3119-3120

3141-3142

3183-3184

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

(104 Cars Total*)

3205-3206

3229-3230

3235-3236

3263-3264

3267-3268

3283-3284

3285-3286

3289-3290

3291-3292

3297-3298

3305-3306

3311-3312

3323-3324

3325-3326

3337-3338

3339-3340

3349-3350

3351-3448

3355-3356

3359-3360

3361-3362

3363-3364

3369-3370

3373-3374

3375-3376

3377-3378

3379-3380

3383-3384

3385-3386

3387-3388

3391-3392

3397-3398

3399-3400

3401-3402

3403-3404

3413-3414

3415-3416

3417-3418

3419-3420

3431-3432

3433-3434

3435-3436

3437-3438

3439-3440

3441-3442

3443-3444

3445-3446

3449-3450

3451-3452

3453-3454

3455-3456

3457-3458

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

No Cars assigned to this Line

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020

*=3200-Series Rehabs starting soon/in progress. Rosters may be adjusted often and other rail cars from other series may be assigned...

Brown Line uses Orange Line equipment during A.M weekday rush periods for service(Brownage)

Brown Line uses Purple Line equipment during A.M weekday rush periods for service(Ravenston)

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Green Line:(Updated 7/30/20)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

No Cars assigned to this Line

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

No Cars assigned to this Line

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

(150 Cars Total)

5051-5200

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020

Green and Pink Line 5000's are interchangeable...

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Orange Line:(Updated 12/18/18)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

(158 Cars Total)

2603-2604

2613-2614

2619-2620

2625-2626

2632-2721*

2633-2634

2643-2644

2657-2658

2661-2662

2665-2666

2673-2674

2679-2680

2681-2682

2683-2684

2685-2686

2689-2690

2693-2694

2695-2696

2699-2700

2705-2706

2711-2712

2717-2718

2723-2724

2729-2730

2733-2734

2739-2740

2743-2744

2747-2748

2755-2756

2769-2770

2775-2776

2783-2784

2785-2786

2789-2790

2791-2856*

2795-2796

2797-2798

2799-2800

2803-2804

2813-2814

2815-2816

2817-2818

2823-2824

2831-2832

2833-2834

2837-2838

2845-2846

2851-2852

2857-2858

2859-2860

2861-2862

2869-2870

2871-2872

2877-2878

2879-2880

2883-2884

2887-2888

2889-2890

2901-2902

2909-2910

2913-2914

2915-2916

2917-2918

2923-2924

2925-2926

2933-2934

2935-2936

2943-2944

2951-2952

2953-2954

2957-2958

2973-2974

2983-2984

3005-3006

3053-3054

3055-3056

3059-3060

3083-3084

3085-3086

3091-3092

3093-3094

3107-3108

3185-3186

3193-3194

3197-3198

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

No Cars assigned to this line

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

No Cars assigned to this line

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2019-2022)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2019

*=3200-Series Rehabs starting soon/in progress. Rosters may be adjusted often and other rail cars from other series may be assigned...

Orange Line equipment used early weekday mornings for Brownage runs on the Brown Line

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Purple Line:(Updated 12/21/18)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

No Cars assigned to this Line

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

No Cars assigned to this Line

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

(100 Cars Total)

5401-5500

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020

Purple Line equipment occasionally used on Red and Yellow Lines, and early weekday mornings for Ravenston runs on the Brown Line

Purple Line has been receiving random 5000's that are from the Red Line

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Not all cars assigned or delivered yet. Assignments may vary....

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Pink Line:(Updated 7/30/20)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

No Cars assigned to this Line

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

No Cars assigned to this Line

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

(50 Cars Total)

5001-5050

5203-5216(Extras For Blue Line Rush)

5219-5226(Extra For Blue Line Rush)

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2022)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020

Green and Pink Line 5000's are Interchangeable....

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Yellow Line:(Updated 12/21/18)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

No Cars assigned to this Line

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)

No Cars assigned to this Line

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

(6 Cars Total)

5517-5522

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020

Yellow Line receives random 5000-Series from the Red Line.

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Long-Term Holds/Retired/Not In Service Trains:(Updated 12/11/20)

2200-Series Cars(Budd Company 1969-1970)

Awaiting Scrapping @ Skokie Shops:

Purchased Railcars By Private Owner(s) or Businesses:

2238

2347-2348

Sitting @ 61st St. Yard:

2273-2274

2400-Series Cars(Boeing-Vertol 1976-1978)

2401-2402(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2403-2404(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2405-2406(Assigned as Work Train)

2407-2408(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2409-2410(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2411-2412(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2413-2414(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2415-2416(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2417-2418(Assigned as Work Train)

2419-2420(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2421-2422(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...)

2423-2424(Assigned as Work Train)

2433-2434(Selected as the IRM Pair. Moved 7/29(2434) and 7/30(2433)

2455-2456(Sent to Skokie Shops between 10/17-10/23. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15)

2489-2490(Sent to Skokie Shops before the roadeo 9/13/14. On Long-Term Hold. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15)

2491-2492(Unit sold and removed 10/13/13 to UNICOR FPI-Federal Prison Industries)

2507-2508

2521-2522(Scrapped?)

2537-2538(Sent to Skokie Shops night of 10/27-28/14. On Long-Term Hold. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15)

2542

2543-2544(Sent to Skokie Shops night of 10/27-28/14. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15)

2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987)

2609-2610(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2617-2618(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2619-2620(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2621-2622(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2623-2624(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2625-2626(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2627-2628(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2631

2635-2636(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2639-2640(Scrapped?)

2641-2642(2642 spotted on flatbed for possible scrapping 7/17/15)

2659-2660(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2697-2698(Scrapped?)

2701-2702(2702 Retired, 2701 Available)

2717-2718(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2722(2722 Retired, 2721 paired with 2632)

2727-2728(On Long-Term Hold 11/9/15)

2737-2738(On Long-Term Hold 11/9/15)

2759-2760(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2763-2764(Scrapped?)

2792(Scrapped, 2791 paired with 2856)

2801-2802(Long-Term Hold)

2825-2826(On Long-Term Hold 11/9/15)

2829-2830(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2855(Scrapped, 2856 paired with 2791)

2875-2876(Seen in Ashland Yard 3/6/16. Possible Long-Term Hold)

2893-2898(On Long Term Hold-Used as Santa's Train)

2921-2922(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2931-2932(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2941-2942(Possible Long-Term Hold as of 2/29/16)

2947-2948(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

2977-2978(2978 Retired, 2977 Stored)

2991-2992(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

3029-3030(Scrapped?)

3031(Retired, 3032 renumbered 3458 and paired with 3457)

3035-3036(Scrapped?)

3049-3050(On Long-Term Hold 10/15)

3061-3062(O'Hare crash. 3061 cut up and scrapped. 3062 @ Rosemont Yard through 7/18/15. May be moved to lower 63rd Yard, then Skokie Shops for scrapping...)

3087-3088(Moved to lower 63rd Yard, then Skokie Shops for scrapping...)

3121-3122(Scrapped?)

3129-3130(Scrapped?)

3171-3172(Ghost Train Accident. Awaiting Retirement)

3177-3178(Ghost Train Accident. 3177 retired 9/30/13. 3178 retirement pending...)

3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)
3351

3447

5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015)

7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2019-2022)(Base Order: 7001-7400)(Option 1 7401-7556)(Option 2 7557-7656)(Option 3 7657-7756)(Option 4 7757-7846)

Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2019

7001-7002

7003-7004

7005-7006

7007-7008

7009-7010

7011-7012

7013-7014

7015-7016

7017-7018

7019-7020

7021-7022

7023-7024

7025-7026

7027-7028

7029-7030

7031-7032

7033-7034

7035-7036

7037-7038

7039-7040

7041-7042

7043-7044

7045-7046

7047-7048

7049-7050

7051-7052

7053-7054

7055-7056

7057-7058

7059-7060

7061-7062

7063-7064

7065-7066

7067-7068

7069-7070

7071-7072

7073-7074

7075-7076

7077-7078

7079-7080

7081-7082

7083-7084

7085-7086

7087-7088

7089-7090

7091-7092

7093-7094

7095-7096

7097-7098

7099-7100

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This is what I have for an L roster. See list at bottom for a listing of #2200 and #2400 cars still on CTA property. (last updated 11/26/20 at. 5:42 PM)

Blue Line (412)

#3201-04, #3207-28, #3231-34, #3237-62, #3265-66, #3269-82, #3287-88, #3293-96, #3399 - #3304, #3307- #3310, #3313-22, #3227-36, #3341-48, #3353-54, #3357-58, #3365-68, #3371-72, #3381-82, #3389-90, #3393- #3396, #3405-12, #3421-30 (154)


#2601-02, #2605-06, #2615-16, #2621-24, #2637-38, #2647-52, #2655-56, #2675-76, #2687-88, #2703-04, #2713-16, #2719-20, #2725-26, #2745-46, #2749-50, #2773-74, #2777-82, #2793-94, #2797-98, #2805-08, #2819-22, #2827-28, #2839-44, #2849-50, #2863-64, #2867-68, #2873-74, #2891-92, #2903-04, #2911-12, #2919-20, #2927-32, #2937-40, #2945-46, #2949-50, #2961-62, #2965-72, #2975-76, #2979-#3112 (mismate), #2981-82, #2987-88, #2993 - #3004, #3009-14, #3019-22, #3025-26, #3033-34, #3037-40, #3043-48, #3051-52, #3057-58, #3063-78, #3081-82, #3089-90, #3095 - #3106, #3109-10, #3113-18, #3123-28, #3131-40, #3143-70, #3173-82, #3187-92, #3195-96, #3199-#3200 (258)

Red Line (386)
#5201-02, #5217-18, #5227- #5400, #5501 - #5516, #5523 - #5714 (386)

Purple Line (100) occasional Red line #5000 cars are substituted for service
#5401 - #5500 (100)

#2401 -04, #2407- #2410 (8 cars, in howard yard in a work capacity)

Yellow Line (6) occasional Red line #5000 cars are substituted for service
#5517-22 (6)

Brown Line (162)
#3205-06, #3229-30, #3235-36, #3263-64, #3267-68, #3283-86, #3289-92, #3297-98, #3305-06, #3311-12,  #3323-26, #3337-#3340, #3349- 50, #3351 - #3448 (mismate), #3355-56, #3359-64, #3369-70, #3373-80, #3383-88, #3391-92, #3397 - #3404, #3413-20, #3431-46, #3449-58 (104)

#2607-08, #2611-12, #2627-30, #2645-46, #2663-64, #2667-72, #2677-78, #2751-52, #2757-58, #2767-68, #2771-72, #2853-54, #2881-82, #2885-86, #2905-06, #2989-90, #3015-18, #3027-28, #3037-38, #3063-64, #3079-80, #3105-06,  #3119-20, #3141-42, #3183-84 (58)

Green Line (150) Green line will borrow cars from the Pink line so the fleets are interchangeable
#5051 - #5200 (150)

Pink Line (72) Pink line will borrow cars from the Green line so the fleets are interchangeable
#5001-50 (50)

#5203-5216, 5219-5226 (22, used for blue line extras in the rush)

Orange Line (168)
#2603-04, #2613-14, #2619-20, #2625-26, #2632-#2721 (mismate), #2633-34, #2643-44, #2657-58, #2661-62, #2665-66, #2673-74. #2679-86, #2689-90, #2693-96, #2699-2700, 2705-06, #2711-12, #2717-18, #2723-24, #2729-30, #2733-34, #2739-40, #2743-44,  #2747-48, #2755-56, #2769-70, #2775-76, #2783-86, #2789-90, #2791-#2856 (mismate), #2795-#2800, #2803-04, #2813-18, #2823-24, #2831-34, #2837-38, #2845-46, #2851-52, #2857-62, #2869-72, #2877-80, #2883-84, #2887-90, #2901-02, #2909-10, #2913--18, #2923-26, #2933-36, #2943-44, #2951-54, #2957-58, #2973-74, #2983-84, #3005-06, #3053-56, #3059-60, #3083-86, #3091-94, #3107-08, #3185-86, #3193-94, #3197-98 (168)

Testing at Skokie shops:

#7005-06, #7009-10

(#2405-06 #2417-18 #2421-22 are at 63rd lower yard assigned as the work train, #2411-16, #2419-20, #2423-24 now officially are assigned as work trains only, #2433-34 moved to IRM 7/30/14

Note: The Red line, Yellow line and Purple line has been borrowing cars off each other, so it's not unusual to see those cars assigned between those 3 lines.

#2200 cars at Skokie Shops awaiting scrapping: all gone 4/14; #2273-74 have now moved to Skokie Shops as of 10/15

#2200 car sitting at Cermak/Peoria in a lot: #2238, the car purchased by Catchmo Media (1 car)

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#2200 cars went to auction at Skokie Shops: #2347-48 (2 cars; #2347 sold for 10K, #2348 for 13K, One car is confirmed to have been sold to an ohio grocer and one car is rumored to have been purchased by Google)

(total #2200 cars on CTA property (2 cars)

#2400 cars left on CTA property (basically just the historical fleet repainted cars and work motors #2401-#2422)

#2455-56, #2489-90, #2537-38, #2541-44; #2541 has been sold though so #2542 is a lone car.


Quick Links For Delivery/Retirement Info

Current Fleet:

#5000's (2009) Delivery Info And Pictures: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/1935-5000-series-service-dates/?p=54333

#3200's Delivery and Retirement info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/3163-3200-series-service-dates/?p=44702

#2600's Delivery and Retirement info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/3275-2600-series-service-dates/?p=49453

#2400's Delivery and Retirement Info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/2587-2400-series-service-dates/?p=34065

Retired Fleet:

#2200's Delivery and Retirement Info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/1801-2200-series-service-dates/?p=23373

#2000's Delivery and Retirement info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/1806-2000s-in-service-and-scrapping-dates/?p=23465

#3200's Rehab Dates:

#3200's rehab dates link posted below:

http://chitransit.org/topic/3707-detailed-3200s-rehab-progress/?do=findComment&comment=76355

 

 

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Why are there some 2400's on the Red and some 2600's on the Purple ?

The 2400s are 35 years old and are approaching their retirement. The assignment of additional 2600s to the Purple Line gives that line a sufficient number of that series cars to cover base service on that line. Plus, on the Red Line the 2400s will likely be relegated to "belly car" service, meaning that the 2400s will be restricted to a middle pair (with 2600s at each end) in Red Line service.

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The 2400s are 35 years old and are approaching their retirement. The assignment of additional 2600s to the Purple Line gives that line a sufficient number of that series cars to cover base service on that line. Plus, on the Red Line the 2400s will likely be relegated to "belly car" service, meaning that the 2400s will be restricted to a middle pair (with 2600s at each end) in Red Line service.

It is very common to see 2400s on the end of Red Line trains.

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It is very common to see 2400s on the end of Red Line trains.

I don't know how big a deal this is, in that they ran mixed on the Red Line until the rehabs of the 2600s, and there never were enough 2400s for the Purple.

Also, I don't know why people are attempting to post rosters when they will change next week, due to arrival and shifting of 5000s.

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Why are there some 2400's on the Red and some 2600's on the Purple ?

The 2400's are being transferred to the Red Line because of the arrival of the 5000's coming in to replace them and because they are approaching their retirement. I read an article saying the 2400's will finish their remaining service on the Red Line. They will probably be phased out next year once the Dan Ryan branch is completed and there are enough 5000's to to cover the Red Line which my guess is going to be in the fall of 2013. But of course we'll see as time goes by.

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I think myself the reason the Red line is going with more #2400's is because some of those lower #2600's are in need of some maintenance. Some of them are really dirty and the AC doesn't work. There always in service and never get the attention they need. These #2500's are just the opposite. They do alot of sitting at the yard and are better maintained. I haven't come across a hot #2500 in a while. The same thing can be said about the green line, with just 94 cars that's less to maintain, so they stay in good condition. BTW, the #2200's and #2579-80 are now gone from Howard yard. I guess that's the last we'll see of them.

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I think myself the reason the Red line is going with more #2400's is because some of those lower #2600's are in need of some maintenance. Some of them are really dirty and the AC doesn't work. There always in service and never get the attention they need. These #2500's are just the opposite. They do alot of sitting at the yard and are better maintained. I haven't come across a hot #2500 in a while. The same thing can be said about the green line, with just 94 cars that's less to maintain, so they stay in good condition. BTW, the #2200's and #2579-80 are now gone from Howard yard. I guess that's the last we'll see of them.

Maybe some of the lower 2600s do need maintenance, but they sure won't get them on the Blue Line, which is where some of them wound up. If it were maintenance was the primary purpose, then an even swap with the the Green Line or even the Purple Line would've accomplished that. Instead, I think it is just to get the Blue Line to all 2600s. The 2400s can interline with Red and Purple. Unless the 2400s themselves are in very bad shape, why can't the Purple be all 2400s and the Purple's 2600s move to the Blue? If needed, the Purple can get 2600s from the Red.

Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable.

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Maybe some of the lower 2600s do need maintenance, but they sure won't get them on the Blue Line, which is where some of them wound up. If it were maintenance was the primary purpose, then an even swap with the the Green Line or even the Purple Line would've accomplished that. Instead, I think it is just to get the Blue Line to all 2600s. The 2400s can interline with Red and Purple. Unless the 2400s themselves are in very bad shape, why can't the Purple be all 2400s and the Purple's 2600s move to the Blue? If needed, the Purple can get 2600s from the Red.

Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable.

That would be a great gift if the 5000 series ran as a holiday train this season

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Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable.

Krambles's book made a big deal about how the flatcars had to be converted so that they could run with 6000s instead of 4000s. But, then I suppose that they had to be converted again to run with the work 2400s, which raises the question whether something else would have to be converted to work equipment if those 2400s are retired, but I suppose it would be 2600s.

So, unless they are willing to modify the electric couplers to conform to the 5000s, probably not.

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Maybe some of the lower 2600s do need maintenance, but they sure won't get them on the Blue Line, which is where some of them wound up. If it were maintenance was the primary purpose, then an even swap with the the Green Line or even the Purple Line would've accomplished that. Instead, I think it is just to get the Blue Line to all 2600s. The 2400s can interline with Red and Purple. Unless the 2400s themselves are in very bad shape, why can't the Purple be all 2400s and the Purple's 2600s move to the Blue? If needed, the Purple can get 2600s from the Red.

Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable.

Blue line maintenance is better than the Red line's in my opinion because again more cars are in service on the Red. Alot of times the Red line runs with 8 car trains where the blue line runs with 4 on the weekend sometimes (when there's not a downtown event scheduled.) But after what I saw last week with the heat and all, the #2200's need to depart first. About 3/4 of the #2200's series trains were hot with people fanning themselves on a 100 degree car and I spotted several cars with the hopper windows open. There is a few that have good AC like #2313 but the #2400's seemed to be in much better condition. Now the purple line #2600's seem to be in good condition too. I think ultimately, those cars are going to end up on the blue line when all the transferring stops. BTW, blue line got a few more cars last week I have yet to update. They are #2937-38 and #2945-46.

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Krambles's book made a big deal about how the flatcars had to be converted so that they could run with 6000s instead of 4000s. But, then I suppose that they had to be converted again to run with the work 2400s, which raises the question whether something else would have to be converted to work equipment if those 2400s are retired, but I suppose it would be 2600s.

So, unless they are willing to modify the electric couplers to conform to the 5000s, probably not.

I kinda wonder if they are going to convert the 3200's to be like the new 5000's, and how if so.

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I kinda wonder if they are going to convert the 3200's to be like the new 5000's, and how if so.

I really like the set up for the 5000s. I wish they would convert the 3200s into the these new cars. Im hoping some 3200s can make their way to the Blue Line.

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I really like the set up for the 5000s. I wish they would convert the 3200s into the these new cars. Im hoping some 3200s can make their way to the Blue Line.

I pretty much wish as well that they would convert the 3200's into the new cars. I remember Alstom converted the 2600's to be like the 3200's for one-man operation.

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