sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Rosters moved to the "CTA "L" Rosters" thread for easier locating... Red Line:(Updated 7/30/20) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) No Cars assigned to this Line 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) No Cars assigned to this Line 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) (386 Cars Total) 5201-5202 5217-5218 5227-5400 5501-5516 5523-5714 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020 Red Line also borrows Purple Line equipment on occasion Red Line loans out four random 5000-Series cars to the Yellow Line. Photos copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Blue Line:(Updated 12/8/20) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) (258 Cars Total) 2601-2602 2605-2606 2615-2616 2621-2624 2637-2638 2647-2648 2649-2650 2651-2652 2654-2655 2675-2676 2687-2688 2713-2714 2715-2716 2719-2720 2725-2726 2745-2746 2749-2750 2773-2774 2777-2778 2779-2780 2781-2782 2793-2794 2797-2798 2805-2806 2807-2808 2819-2820 2821-2822 2827-2828 2839-2840 2841-2842 2843-2844 2849-2850 2863-2864 2867-2868 2873-2874 2881-2882 2903-2904 2911-2912 2919-2920 2927-2928 2929-2930 2937-2938 2939-2940 2945-2946 2949-2950 2961-2962 2965-2966 2969-2970 2971-2972 2975-2976 2979-3112 2987-2988 2993-2994 2995-2996 2997-2998 2999-3000 3001-3002 3003-3004 3009-3010 3011-3012 3013-3014 3019-3020 3021-3022 3025-3026 3033-3034 3039-3040 3043-3044 3045-3046 3047-3048 3051-3052 3057-3058 3065-3066 3067-3068 3069-3070 3071-3072 3073-3074 3075-3076 3077-3078 3081-3082 3089-3090 3095-3096 3097-3098 3099-3100 3101-3102 3103-3104 3109-3110 3113-3114 3115-3116 3117-3118 3123-3124 3125-3126 3127-3128 3131-3132 3135-3136 3137-3138 3139-3140 3145-3146 3147-3148 3149-3150 3151-3152 3153-3154 3155-3156 3157-3158 3159-3160 3161-3162 3163-3164 3165-3166 3167-3168 3169-3170 3173-3174 3179-3180 3181-3182 3187-3188 3189-3190 3191-3192 3195-3196 3199-3200 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) (154 Cars Total) 3201-3202 3203-3204 3207-3208 3209-3210 3211-3212 3213-3214 3217-3218 3219-3220 3221-3222 3223-3224 3225-3226 3227-3228 3229-3230 3231-3232 3233-3234 3237-3238 3239-3240 3241-3242 3243-3244 3245-3246 3247-3248 3249-3250 3251-3252 3253-3254 3255-3256 3257-3258 3259-3260 3261-3262 3265-3266 3269-3270 3271-3272 3273-3274 3275-3276 3277-3278 3279-3280 3281-3282 3287-3288 3293-3294 3295-3296 3299-3300 3301-3302 3303-3304 3307-3308 3309-3310 3313-3314 3315-3316 3317-3318 3319-3320 3321-3322 3329-3330 3331-3332 3333-3334 3335-3336 3341-3342 3343-3344 3345-3346 3347-3348 3353-3354 3357-3358 3365-3366 3367-3368 3369-3370 3371-3372 3381-3382 3389-3390 3393-3394 3395-3396 3405-3406 3407-3408 3409-3410 3411-3412 3421-3422 3423-3424 3425-3426 3427-3428 3429-3430 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) No Cars assigned to this Line 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020 Photos Copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Brown Line:(Updated 12/8/20) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) (58 Cars Total) 2607-2608 2611-2612 2627-2628 2629-2630 2645-2646 2663-2664 2667-2668 2669-2670 2671-2672 2677-2678 2751-2752 2757-2758 2767-2768 2771-2772 2853-2854 2881-2882 2885-2886 2905-2906 2989-2990 3015-3016 3017-3018 3027-3028 3037-3038 3063-3064 3079-3080 3105-3106 3119-3120 3141-3142 3183-3184 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) (104 Cars Total*) 3205-3206 3229-3230 3235-3236 3263-3264 3267-3268 3283-3284 3285-3286 3289-3290 3291-3292 3297-3298 3305-3306 3311-3312 3323-3324 3325-3326 3337-3338 3339-3340 3349-3350 3351-3448 3355-3356 3359-3360 3361-3362 3363-3364 3369-3370 3373-3374 3375-3376 3377-3378 3379-3380 3383-3384 3385-3386 3387-3388 3391-3392 3397-3398 3399-3400 3401-3402 3403-3404 3413-3414 3415-3416 3417-3418 3419-3420 3431-3432 3433-3434 3435-3436 3437-3438 3439-3440 3441-3442 3443-3444 3445-3446 3449-3450 3451-3452 3453-3454 3455-3456 3457-3458 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) No Cars assigned to this Line 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020 *=3200-Series Rehabs starting soon/in progress. Rosters may be adjusted often and other rail cars from other series may be assigned... Brown Line uses Orange Line equipment during A.M weekday rush periods for service(Brownage) Brown Line uses Purple Line equipment during A.M weekday rush periods for service(Ravenston) Photos Copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Green Line:(Updated 7/30/20) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) No Cars assigned to this Line 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) No Cars assigned to this Line 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) (150 Cars Total) 5051-5200 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020 Green and Pink Line 5000's are interchangeable... Photos Copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Orange Line:(Updated 12/18/18) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) (158 Cars Total) 2603-2604 2613-2614 2619-2620 2625-2626 2632-2721* 2633-2634 2643-2644 2657-2658 2661-2662 2665-2666 2673-2674 2679-2680 2681-2682 2683-2684 2685-2686 2689-2690 2693-2694 2695-2696 2699-2700 2705-2706 2711-2712 2717-2718 2723-2724 2729-2730 2733-2734 2739-2740 2743-2744 2747-2748 2755-2756 2769-2770 2775-2776 2783-2784 2785-2786 2789-2790 2791-2856* 2795-2796 2797-2798 2799-2800 2803-2804 2813-2814 2815-2816 2817-2818 2823-2824 2831-2832 2833-2834 2837-2838 2845-2846 2851-2852 2857-2858 2859-2860 2861-2862 2869-2870 2871-2872 2877-2878 2879-2880 2883-2884 2887-2888 2889-2890 2901-2902 2909-2910 2913-2914 2915-2916 2917-2918 2923-2924 2925-2926 2933-2934 2935-2936 2943-2944 2951-2952 2953-2954 2957-2958 2973-2974 2983-2984 3005-3006 3053-3054 3055-3056 3059-3060 3083-3084 3085-3086 3091-3092 3093-3094 3107-3108 3185-3186 3193-3194 3197-3198 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) No Cars assigned to this line 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) No Cars assigned to this line 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2019-2022) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2019 *=3200-Series Rehabs starting soon/in progress. Rosters may be adjusted often and other rail cars from other series may be assigned... Orange Line equipment used early weekday mornings for Brownage runs on the Brown Line Photos Copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Purple Line:(Updated 12/21/18) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) No Cars assigned to this Line 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) No Cars assigned to this Line 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) (100 Cars Total) 5401-5500 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020 Purple Line equipment occasionally used on Red and Yellow Lines, and early weekday mornings for Ravenston runs on the Brown Line Purple Line has been receiving random 5000's that are from the Red Line Photos Copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. Not all cars assigned or delivered yet. Assignments may vary.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Pink Line:(Updated 7/30/20) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) No Cars assigned to this Line 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) No Cars assigned to this Line 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) (50 Cars Total) 5001-5050 5203-5216(Extras For Blue Line Rush) 5219-5226(Extra For Blue Line Rush) 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2022) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020 Green and Pink Line 5000's are Interchangeable.... Photos Copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yellow Line:(Updated 12/21/18) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) No Cars assigned to this Line 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994) No Cars assigned to this Line 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) (6 Cars Total) 5517-5522 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2020-2023) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2020 Yellow Line receives random 5000-Series from the Red Line. Photos Copyright © Chicago-l.org. Off-site Photos copyrighted to their respective owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Long-Term Holds/Retired/Not In Service Trains:(Updated 12/11/20)2200-Series Cars(Budd Company 1969-1970) Awaiting Scrapping @ Skokie Shops: Purchased Railcars By Private Owner(s) or Businesses: 2238 2347-2348 Sitting @ 61st St. Yard: 2273-2274 2400-Series Cars(Boeing-Vertol 1976-1978) 2401-2402(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2403-2404(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2405-2406(Assigned as Work Train) 2407-2408(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2409-2410(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2411-2412(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2413-2414(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2415-2416(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2417-2418(Assigned as Work Train) 2419-2420(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2421-2422(Work Train Capable-Status Unknown...) 2423-2424(Assigned as Work Train) 2433-2434(Selected as the IRM Pair. Moved 7/29(2434) and 7/30(2433) 2455-2456(Sent to Skokie Shops between 10/17-10/23. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15) 2489-2490(Sent to Skokie Shops before the roadeo 9/13/14. On Long-Term Hold. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15) 2491-2492(Unit sold and removed 10/13/13 to UNICOR FPI-Federal Prison Industries) 2507-2508 2521-2522(Scrapped?) 2537-2538(Sent to Skokie Shops night of 10/27-28/14. On Long-Term Hold. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15) 2542 2543-2544(Sent to Skokie Shops night of 10/27-28/14. Used as Farewell Train 1/21/15) 2600-Series Cars(Budd Company/Transit America 1981-1987) 2609-2610(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2617-2618(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2619-2620(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2621-2622(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2623-2624(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2625-2626(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2627-2628(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2631 2635-2636(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2639-2640(Scrapped?) 2641-2642(2642 spotted on flatbed for possible scrapping 7/17/15) 2659-2660(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2697-2698(Scrapped?) 2701-2702(2702 Retired, 2701 Available) 2717-2718(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2722(2722 Retired, 2721 paired with 2632) 2727-2728(On Long-Term Hold 11/9/15) 2737-2738(On Long-Term Hold 11/9/15) 2759-2760(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2763-2764(Scrapped?) 2792(Scrapped, 2791 paired with 2856) 2801-2802(Long-Term Hold) 2825-2826(On Long-Term Hold 11/9/15) 2829-2830(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2855(Scrapped, 2856 paired with 2791) 2875-2876(Seen in Ashland Yard 3/6/16. Possible Long-Term Hold) 2893-2898(On Long Term Hold-Used as Santa's Train) 2921-2922(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2931-2932(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2941-2942(Possible Long-Term Hold as of 2/29/16) 2947-2948(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 2977-2978(2978 Retired, 2977 Stored) 2991-2992(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 3029-3030(Scrapped?) 3031(Retired, 3032 renumbered 3458 and paired with 3457) 3035-3036(Scrapped?) 3049-3050(On Long-Term Hold 10/15) 3061-3062(O'Hare crash. 3061 cut up and scrapped. 3062 @ Rosemont Yard through 7/18/15. May be moved to lower 63rd Yard, then Skokie Shops for scrapping...) 3087-3088(Moved to lower 63rd Yard, then Skokie Shops for scrapping...) 3121-3122(Scrapped?) 3129-3130(Scrapped?) 3171-3172(Ghost Train Accident. Awaiting Retirement) 3177-3178(Ghost Train Accident. 3177 retired 9/30/13. 3178 retirement pending...) 3200-Series Cars(Morrison-Knudsen 1991-1994)3351 3447 5000-Series Cars(Bombardier Transit Corporation 2009-2015) 7000-Series Cars(CSR Sifang America JV 2019-2022)(Base Order: 7001-7400)(Option 1 7401-7556)(Option 2 7557-7656)(Option 3 7657-7756)(Option 4 7757-7846) Prototype Planned To Be Delivered In 2019 7001-7002 7003-7004 7005-7006 7007-7008 7009-7010 7011-7012 7013-7014 7015-7016 7017-7018 7019-7020 7021-7022 7023-7024 7025-7026 7027-7028 7029-7030 7031-7032 7033-7034 7035-7036 7037-7038 7039-7040 7041-7042 7043-7044 7045-7046 7047-7048 7049-7050 7051-7052 7053-7054 7055-7056 7057-7058 7059-7060 7061-7062 7063-7064 7065-7066 7067-7068 7069-7070 7071-7072 7073-7074 7075-7076 7077-7078 7079-7080 7081-7082 7083-7084 7085-7086 7087-7088 7089-7090 7091-7092 7093-7094 7095-7096 7097-7098 7099-7100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 This is what I have for an L roster. See list at bottom for a listing of #2200 and #2400 cars still on CTA property. (last updated 9/2/22 at. 10:24 AM) Blue Line (418) CRRC #7000's (2021) #7001-10, #7012-22 (22 total) MORRIS KNUDSON #3200'S: (1992) #3201-04, #3207-28, #3231-34, #3237-62, #3265-66, #3269-82, #3287-88, #3293-96, #3399 - #3304, #3307- #3310, #3313-22, #3229-36, #3341-48, #3353-54, #3357-58, #3365-68, #3371-72, #3381-82, #3389-90, #3393- #3396, #3405-12, #3421-30 (152) Budd #2600's: (1981) #2601-02, #2605-06, #2615-16, #2621-26, #2637-38, #2647-52, #2655-56, #2675-76, #2687-88, #2713-16, #2719-20, #2725-26, #2745-46, #2749-50, #2773-74, #2777-82, #2793-94, #2797-98, #2805-08, #2819-22, #2827-28, #2839-44, #2849-50, #2863-64, #2867-68, #2873-74, #2891-92, #2903-04, #2911-12, #2919-20, #2927-32, #2937-40, #2945-46, #2949-50, #2961-62, #2965-72, #2975-76, #2979-#3112 (mismate), #2981-82, #2987-88, #2993 - #3004, #3009-14, #3019-22, #3025-26, #3033-34, #3039-40, #3043-48, #3051-52, #3057-58, #3065-78, #3081-82, #3089-90, #3095 - #3103, #3109-10, #3113-18, #3123-28, #3131-32, #3135-40, #3143-70, #3173-74, #3179 -82, #3187-92, #3195-96, #3199-#3200 (246) Red Line (386) Bombardier #5000's: (2009) #5201-02, #5217-18, #5227- #5400, #5501 - #5516, #5523 - #5714 (386) Purple Line (100) occasional Red line #5000 cars are substituted for service Bombardier #5000's (2009) #5401 - #5500 (100) Boeing Vertol #2400's (1976) #2401 -04, #2407- #2410 (8 cars, in howard yard in a work capacity) Yellow Line (6) occasional Red line #5000 cars are substituted for service Bombardier #5000's (2009) #5517-22 (6) Brown Line (164) Morris Knudson #3200's (1992) #3205-06, #3229-30, #3235-36, #3263-64, #3267-68, #3283-86, #3289-92, #3297-98, #3305-06, #3311-12, #3323-28, #3337-#3340, #3349- 50, #3351 - #3448 (mismate), #3355-56, #3359-64, #3369-70, #3373-80, #3383-88, #3391-92, #3397 - #3404, #3413-20, #3431-46, #3449-58 (106) Budd #2600's (1981) #2607-08, #2611-12, #2627-30, #2645-46, #2663-64, #2667-72, #2677-78, #2751-52, #2757-58, #2767-68, #2771-72, #2853-54, #2881-82, #2885-86, #2905-06, #2989-90, #3015-18, #3027-28, #3037-38, #3063-64, #3079-80, #3105-06, #3119-20, #3141-42, #3183-84 (58) Green Line (150) Green line will borrow cars from the Pink line so the fleets are interchangeable Bombardier #5000's (2009) #5051 - #5200 (150) Pink Line (72) Pink line will borrow cars from the Green line so the fleets are interchangeable Bombardier #5000's (2009) #5001-50 (50) #5203-5216, 5219-5226 (22, used for blue line extras in the rush) Orange Line (166) Budd #2600's (1981) #2603-04, #2613-14, #2619-20, #2632-#2721 (mismate), #2633-34, #2643-44, #2657-58, #2661-62, #2665-66, #2673-74. #2679-86, #2689-90, #2693-96, #2699-2700, 2705-06, #2711-12, #2717-18, #2723-24, #2729-30, #2733-34, #2739-40, #2743-44, #2747-48, #2755-56, #2769-70, #2775-76, #2783-86, #2789-90, #2791-#2856 (mismate), #2795-#2800, #2803-04, #2813-18, #2823-24, #2831-34, #2837-38, #2845-46, #2851-52, #2857-62, #2869-72, #2877-80, #2883-84, #2887-90, #2901-02, #2909-10, #2913--18, #2923-26, #2933-36, #2943-44, #2951-54, #2957-58, #2973-74, #2983-84, #3005-06, #3053-56, #3059-60, #3083-86, #3091-94, #3107-08, #3185-86, #3193-94, #3197-98 (166) Production CRRC cars arriving at Skokie shops: #7023-32 (#2405-06 #2417-18 #2421-22 are at 63rd lower yard assigned as the work train, #2411-16, #2419-20, #2423-24 now officially are assigned as work trains only, #2433-34 moved to IRM 7/30/14 Note: The Red line, Yellow line and Purple line has been borrowing cars off each other, so it's not unusual to see those cars assigned between those 3 lines. #2200 cars at Skokie Shops awaiting scrapping: all gone 4/14; #2273-74 have now moved to Skokie Shops as of 10/15 #2200 car sitting at Cermak/Peoria in a lot: #2238, the car purchased by Catchmo Media (1 car) #2200 cars went to auction at Skokie Shops: #2347-48 (2 cars; #2347 sold for 10K, #2348 for 13K, One car is confirmed to have been sold to an ohio grocer, (Jungle Jim's) and one car was sold to Goose Island Beer company) (total #2200 cars on CTA property (2 cars) #2400 cars left on CTA property (basically just the historical fleet repainted cars and work motors #2401-#2422) #2455-56, #2489-90, #2537-38, #2541-44; #2541 has been sold though so #2542 is a lone car.Quick Links For Delivery/Retirement InfoCurrent Fleet: #7000s (2020) Delivery info and in service dates https://chitransit.org/topic/4316-7000-series-delivery/?do=findComment&comment=115004 #5000's (2009) Delivery Info And Pictures: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/1935-5000-series-service-dates/?p=54333 #3200's Delivery and Retirement info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/3163-3200-series-service-dates/?p=44702 #2600's Delivery and Retirement info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/3275-2600-series-service-dates/?p=49453 #2400's Delivery and Retirement Info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/2587-2400-series-service-dates/?p=34065Retired Fleet: #2200's Delivery and Retirement Info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/1801-2200-series-service-dates/?p=23373 #2000's Delivery and Retirement info: http://forum.chicagobus.org/topic/1806-2000s-in-service-and-scrapping-dates/?p=23465 #3200's Rehab Dates: #3200's rehab dates link posted below: http://chitransit.org/topic/3707-detailed-3200s-rehab-progress/?do=findComment&comment=76355 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak41 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Why are there some 2400's on the Red and some 2600's on the Purple ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL6000 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Why are there some 2400's on the Red and some 2600's on the Purple ? The 2400s are 35 years old and are approaching their retirement. The assignment of additional 2600s to the Purple Line gives that line a sufficient number of that series cars to cover base service on that line. Plus, on the Red Line the 2400s will likely be relegated to "belly car" service, meaning that the 2400s will be restricted to a middle pair (with 2600s at each end) in Red Line service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete6125 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 The 2400s are 35 years old and are approaching their retirement. The assignment of additional 2600s to the Purple Line gives that line a sufficient number of that series cars to cover base service on that line. Plus, on the Red Line the 2400s will likely be relegated to "belly car" service, meaning that the 2400s will be restricted to a middle pair (with 2600s at each end) in Red Line service. It is very common to see 2400s on the end of Red Line trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 It is very common to see 2400s on the end of Red Line trains. I don't know how big a deal this is, in that they ran mixed on the Red Line until the rehabs of the 2600s, and there never were enough 2400s for the Purple. Also, I don't know why people are attempting to post rosters when they will change next week, due to arrival and shifting of 5000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJL6000 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 It is very common to see 2400s on the end of Red Line trains. "Likely" is the key word. "Likely" does not mean "certainly". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.cta85 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Why are there some 2400's on the Red and some 2600's on the Purple ? The 2400's are being transferred to the Red Line because of the arrival of the 5000's coming in to replace them and because they are approaching their retirement. I read an article saying the 2400's will finish their remaining service on the Red Line. They will probably be phased out next year once the Dan Ryan branch is completed and there are enough 5000's to to cover the Red Line which my guess is going to be in the fall of 2013. But of course we'll see as time goes by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 I think myself the reason the Red line is going with more #2400's is because some of those lower #2600's are in need of some maintenance. Some of them are really dirty and the AC doesn't work. There always in service and never get the attention they need. These #2500's are just the opposite. They do alot of sitting at the yard and are better maintained. I haven't come across a hot #2500 in a while. The same thing can be said about the green line, with just 94 cars that's less to maintain, so they stay in good condition. BTW, the #2200's and #2579-80 are now gone from Howard yard. I guess that's the last we'll see of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I think myself the reason the Red line is going with more #2400's is because some of those lower #2600's are in need of some maintenance. Some of them are really dirty and the AC doesn't work. There always in service and never get the attention they need. These #2500's are just the opposite. They do alot of sitting at the yard and are better maintained. I haven't come across a hot #2500 in a while. The same thing can be said about the green line, with just 94 cars that's less to maintain, so they stay in good condition. BTW, the #2200's and #2579-80 are now gone from Howard yard. I guess that's the last we'll see of them. Maybe some of the lower 2600s do need maintenance, but they sure won't get them on the Blue Line, which is where some of them wound up. If it were maintenance was the primary purpose, then an even swap with the the Green Line or even the Purple Line would've accomplished that. Instead, I think it is just to get the Blue Line to all 2600s. The 2400s can interline with Red and Purple. Unless the 2400s themselves are in very bad shape, why can't the Purple be all 2400s and the Purple's 2600s move to the Blue? If needed, the Purple can get 2600s from the Red. Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CURRENTZ_09 Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Maybe some of the lower 2600s do need maintenance, but they sure won't get them on the Blue Line, which is where some of them wound up. If it were maintenance was the primary purpose, then an even swap with the the Green Line or even the Purple Line would've accomplished that. Instead, I think it is just to get the Blue Line to all 2600s. The 2400s can interline with Red and Purple. Unless the 2400s themselves are in very bad shape, why can't the Purple be all 2400s and the Purple's 2600s move to the Blue? If needed, the Purple can get 2600s from the Red. Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable. That would be a great gift if the 5000 series ran as a holiday train this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable. Krambles's book made a big deal about how the flatcars had to be converted so that they could run with 6000s instead of 4000s. But, then I suppose that they had to be converted again to run with the work 2400s, which raises the question whether something else would have to be converted to work equipment if those 2400s are retired, but I suppose it would be 2600s. So, unless they are willing to modify the electric couplers to conform to the 5000s, probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Maybe some of the lower 2600s do need maintenance, but they sure won't get them on the Blue Line, which is where some of them wound up. If it were maintenance was the primary purpose, then an even swap with the the Green Line or even the Purple Line would've accomplished that. Instead, I think it is just to get the Blue Line to all 2600s. The 2400s can interline with Red and Purple. Unless the 2400s themselves are in very bad shape, why can't the Purple be all 2400s and the Purple's 2600s move to the Blue? If needed, the Purple can get 2600s from the Red. Just a thought. I know it is only July, but I would not be surprised if this year's Holiday Train winds up being a 5000 series train, unless Santa's car isn't compatable. Blue line maintenance is better than the Red line's in my opinion because again more cars are in service on the Red. Alot of times the Red line runs with 8 car trains where the blue line runs with 4 on the weekend sometimes (when there's not a downtown event scheduled.) But after what I saw last week with the heat and all, the #2200's need to depart first. About 3/4 of the #2200's series trains were hot with people fanning themselves on a 100 degree car and I spotted several cars with the hopper windows open. There is a few that have good AC like #2313 but the #2400's seemed to be in much better condition. Now the purple line #2600's seem to be in good condition too. I think ultimately, those cars are going to end up on the blue line when all the transferring stops. BTW, blue line got a few more cars last week I have yet to update. They are #2937-38 and #2945-46. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoNova Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Krambles's book made a big deal about how the flatcars had to be converted so that they could run with 6000s instead of 4000s. But, then I suppose that they had to be converted again to run with the work 2400s, which raises the question whether something else would have to be converted to work equipment if those 2400s are retired, but I suppose it would be 2600s. So, unless they are willing to modify the electric couplers to conform to the 5000s, probably not. I kinda wonder if they are going to convert the 3200's to be like the new 5000's, and how if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I kinda wonder if they are going to convert the 3200's to be like the new 5000's, and how if so. I really like the set up for the 5000s. I wish they would convert the 3200s into the these new cars. Im hoping some 3200s can make their way to the Blue Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoNova Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I really like the set up for the 5000s. I wish they would convert the 3200s into the these new cars. Im hoping some 3200s can make their way to the Blue Line. I pretty much wish as well that they would convert the 3200's into the new cars. I remember Alstom converted the 2600's to be like the 3200's for one-man operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I kinda wonder if they are going to convert the 3200's to be like the new 5000's, and how if so. You must have missed the article where Hilkevitch exposed a proposed no bid deal with Bombardier to do exactly that. artthouwill and I discussed that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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