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There were some more changes over the weekend. Alot of the #5000's that was at Harlem yard/Green line has been moved to Pink line. I could only spot #5041-42 and #5059-60 at Harlem yard yesterday. I don't know if Green line will be receiving new trains from Skokie or not or just keep a few cars for now. That being said alot of the cars that have never seen revenue service did so for the first time yesterday. #5025-26, #5047-48, #5081-82 among them. There were a few changes with #3100 equipment also. Alot of the #3180 - #3200 cars are at Pink now. The only car I could still spot at blue was #3191-92. #3116-15 was sitting in the yard at 54th, but alot of the lower numbered cars in the #3000's and #3100's on the Pink line has been moved. BTW, the Pink line was up to 4 #5000 trains in service yesterday.

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I am starting to consistently see (and hear :lol: ) a train of 5Ks on the Pink Line

around 6:30am at the Harold Washington/Library station on weekdays. That AC motor sound is loud!

Gene King

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There seemed to be a gap in Pink Line service this evening. As I was on a WB Green Line around Franklin, I saw a six car 5000 series train with "Not in Service" signage. Immediately following that train at Clinton, there was a 4 car Pink Line train with lead car 3200. The train tracker signs at Clinton showed the next WB Pink Line trains were due 12 and 13 minutes later (not 12 minutes later and one another 13 minutes after, but literally one minute apart) . There were no other Pink Line trains in the Loop at that time.

Earlier this morning on the Green Line at the Harlem Yard, the only cars there at 8:30 were a 4 car consist of 5000s, but I could not identify the car numbers.

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Just spotted #5109 on the move via flatbed along Oakton st. tonite. Im assuming #5110 has also arrived tonite.

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Just spotted #5109 on the move via flatbed along Oakton st. tonite. Im assuming #5110 has also arrived tonite.

5109 and 10?? Wow they are really coming on along with the new cars I see if they're sending them in numerical order like I hope they are lol then they made over 100 cars already, hey good job keep it up!

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Yesterday I rode a Pink Line train with 5073 as the lead car. 5105 and 5106 were also in the consist. I noticed when we went through a crossover or any point where contact was lost with the third rail, the "power" (A/C motor?) went out. This is normal for the other series cars as well, but usually with the older cars, once contact is made with the third rail the power comes back on in each individual car. But for the train I was on yesterday in the lead car, that "power" did not return until all six cars passed through the crossover or interlocking. I'm not an electrician nor engineer, but it would seem that it would not matter the length of the train in regards to the 5000s, but if that train has to stop in the middle of a crossover, interlocking, or junction (Tower 18 for example), that train is going to stall. Is this a function of Direct Current as opposed to Alternating Current which the older cars are? If so, then:

1. CTA workers in Tower 18 best not ride any new cars and expect to get off at that junction and walk up the stairs.

2. A 5000 series car train should not be allowed through that junction unless it can completely clear it in one move. For instance, if a train is sitting on the EB track at the Clark/Lake station, don't let the 5000 series train sitting west of the Tower 18 junction proceed through the crossing until the first train reaches State/Lake. This will cause back ups and delays, but it will ensure the cab signals won't force a new train to stop somewhere in the junction and stall.

This is just a theory. Any thoughts?

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The power should not go out at all for a short 3rd rail gap. When the LIRR and MN converted some of their M-1's and M-3's from Motor Alternators to Inverters, power stayed on through long switches and grade-crossings. It also never happens with the M-7's, which are all hi-tech, computerized, and AC propulsion. They were also built by Bombardier. I have never heard of this nonsense that power does not come back until the whole train does. Imagine if that happened to a 12 car MU of 85' cars on a ladder track in NYPS or GCT.

Who's to blame for this defect on CTA 5000's ?

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Is this a function of Direct Current as opposed to Alternating Current which the older cars are?

You got that backwards. The older cars are DC. New ones are AC.

That said, I rode a Pink Line with 5000s a couple weeks ago through tower 18, and don't recall that happening. I noticed only two brief occasions where the power went out, and the power was definitely back on in my car when the other cars were going over the 3rd rail gaps.

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I did talk to a friendly CTA vice president who informed me that there are 84 5000s on property and since there are 5100s in service, he verified that new deliveries are NOT in chronological order. He didn't know off hand who is the scrapper but 2200s have gone away.

David Harrison

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I did talk to a friendly CTA vice president who informed me that there are 84 5000s on property and since there are 5100s in service, he verified that new deliveries are NOT in chronological order. He didn't know off hand who is the scrapper but 2200s have gone away.

David Harrison

Is IRM getting any ? If so, do they get to cherry-pick ?

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I did talk to a friendly CTA vice president who informed me that there are 84 5000s on property and since there are 5100s in service, he verified that new deliveries are NOT in chronological order. He didn't know off hand who is the scrapper but 2200s have gone away.

David Harrison

Rode on a 2200 yesterday on the Blue line at 6:30pm towards O'Hare. In addition to the car(of the pair) I was on, saw at least 3 more pairs(6 cars) in service, including the middle 4 cars of an 8 car set. It was the most 2200s I've seen in service for the last couple of weeks.

So yes, some 2200s have gone away. For at least yesterday, some others are still in service. As the 5000s continue to come online, of course more 2200s(and 2400s) will disappear.

(Edited for clarification)

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The Trib just posted a video of the 5000s being manufactured at Plattsburgh N.Y. They took a ride in 5119 and around 4:13 you can see the new colored LED destination signs. Has anyone seen a car with these in service?

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The Trib just posted a video of the 5000s being manufactured at Plattsburgh N.Y. They took a ride in 5119 and around 4:13 you can see the new colored LED destination signs. Has anyone seen a car with these in service?

A pretty impressive video piece overall. Wow, the green line sign at 4:13 is REALLY green and easy to see.

A second or two before the train gets closer to the camera, it looks like the sign is Red and then suddenly changes to Green. Are they changing from Red to Green while moving for the video shot, is that a weird Red/Green reflection, or a just a glitch in the video?

Also, can anyone read what's on the Green sign? To me, the front sign looks solid Green with no words, and while the side sign looks like it has white lettering on it, there's a fade effect going on that interferes with being able to read it.

I'm NOT saying there's a problem with the signs, as it likely appears to be the video resolution while watching this, just curious what others with better video resolution and faster computers are seeing in this video.

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A pretty impressive video piece overall. Wow, the green line sign at 4:13 is REALLY green and easy to see.

A second or two before the train gets closer to the camera, it looks like the sign is Red and then suddenly changes to Green. Are they changing from Red to Green while moving for the video shot, is that a weird Red/Green reflection, or a just a glitch in the video?

Also, can anyone read what's on the Green sign? To me, the front sign looks solid Green with no words, and while the side sign looks like it has white lettering on it, there's a fade effect going on that interferes with being able to read it.

I'm NOT saying there's a problem with the signs, as it likely appears to be the video resolution while watching this, just curious what others with better video resolution and faster computers are seeing in this video.

It also looks like the run number sign changes when the color of the destination sign changes as well. It does not appear to have the actual destination text lit up, just the background color. I agree though, it is very difficult to tell much from that video.

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It also looks like the run number sign changes when the color of the destination sign changes as well. It does not appear to have the actual destination text lit up, just the background color. I agree though, it is very difficult to tell much from that video.

The thing you have to figure is that the video was taken on the test track in Plattsburgh, not in Chicago. Hence, even though Mr. CTA says South Boulevard is next, they had to simulate that somehow. So, I'm sure that's the same with regard to the destination and run number sign.

In fact, I am shocked that Bombardier gave Hilkevitch a full tour, along with a CTA inspector demonstrating what part was in question. If nothing else, NABI wasn't giving tours in 2005.

Also, it is somewhat of a change of pace to see them fabricating the bodies, as opposed to the pictures of the bodies of the 2400s being lifted off the boat.

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Ok my question is after seeing the video (which was a very good behind the scenes video) is after seeing the test trains with the new color LED signs what about the 5000's that are already here and in service those still have the original LED's in the trains, so will they be pulled out again just to install the new technology?

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Ok my question is after seeing the video (which was a very good behind the scenes video) is after seeing the test trains with the new color LED signs what about the 5000's that are already here and in service those still have the original LED's in the trains, so will they be pulled out again just to install the new technology?

They said they would.

However, it can't be too big a deal to pull out 5 circuit boards per car, and also get the new software that makes Pink Pink.

They also said they were going to retrofit the more sanitary seat inserts.

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What I caught out of that is Hilkevitch saying one rail car made every two days with them hoping to speed that up soon to have the 706 car order completed and delivered on schedule by the end of 2014.

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Hey Busjack for your 7000th post whatever you say next has to be a good one concerning this particular subject about the 5000's :D

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I have not seen any 2600's on the pink line in over a week. Is the line serviced only by 5000's now? Can we expect 5000's on the green line soon?

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I have not seen any 2600's on the pink line in over a week. Is the line serviced only by 5000's now? Can we expect 5000's on the green line soon?

Claypool said last week that they'll begin arriving on the Green Line in July.

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I have not seen any 2600's on the pink line in over a week. Is the line serviced only by 5000's now? Can we expect 5000's on the green line soon?

Yeah they're fully equippted with 5000's now and the 2600's that were on the Pink are now on the Red Line.

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Looks like the Green Line is getting prepared to recieve their portion of 5000's now that the Pink Line is fully equpited with the new cars and I also noticed an increasing number of 2400's on the Red Line I know for a fact its more than 10 cars of 24's on the Red Line with more on the way.

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Looks like the Green Line is getting prepared to recieve their portion of 5000's now that the Pink Line is fully equpited with the new cars and I also noticed an increasing number of 2400's on the Red Line I know for a fact its more than 10 cars of 24's on the Red Line with more on the way.

Plus I see that Blue Line has been receiving more Oldest 2600s/2800s from Red Line for replacement of 2200s.

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