Busjack Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, Shannoncvpi said: Hey why not it's not broken now if it blows a motor or Trans then that's a different story they might retire it then You wee complaining that the suspension was shot. Apparently not that shot.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Busjack said: You wee complaining that the suspension was shot. Apparently not that shot.? I wasn't complaining I was just saying the bus been like that since it got to FG a few years ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 So after doing another sweep of the boneyard this list of buses I've compiled have caught my attention as far as being LTH for maintenance reasons or early candidates for retirement. I don't want jump the gun too soon but after seeing the same usual suspects sit idle for this long with no movement and parts starting to be stripped only one can wonder when is it time to make that call so to speak. On a good note I did see #1197 finally getting worked on in the shops area after it has sat idle for two years in the boneyard. 1. 1684 2. 1756 3. 2013 4. 1825 5. 1732 6. 1704 7. 1697 8. 1794 9. 1012 10. 1765 11. 1771 12. 1890 13. 1883 14. 1740 15. 2008 16. 1820 17. 1930 18. 1922 19. 1869 20. 1746 21. 2016 22. 1670 23. 1935 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 3 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: So after doing another sweep of the boneyard this list of buses I've compiled have caught my attention as far as being LTH for maintenance reasons or early candidates for retirement. I don't want jump the gun too soon but after seeing the same usual suspects sit idle for this long with no movement and parts starting to be stripped only one can wonder when is it time to make that call so to speak. On a good note I did see #1197 finally getting worked on in the shops area after it has sat idle for two years in the boneyard. 1. 1684 2. 1756 3. 2013 4. 1825 5. 1732 6. 1704 7. 1697 8. 1794 9. 1012 10. 1765 11. 1771 12. 1890 13. 1883 14. 1740 15. 2008 16. 1820 17. 1930 18. 1922 19. 1869 20. 1746 21. 2016 22. 1670 23. 1935 The amazing thing is that omly ONE of these New Flyers is numbered UNDER 1600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 hour ago, artthouwill said: The amazing thing is that omly ONE of these New Flyers is numbered UNDER 1600. Not as unexpected as one thinks. Actually only 1 under 1630. Options 3 and 4 (1630-2029) were the ones with carbon steel frames wrapped in aluminum, instead of stainless steel frames. Maybe they rusted. Interesting question is that after getting the 600 Novas, there was at least a plan to give a life extending rehab to 430 1000s. Unless these are sitting for that, it's hard to figure out what CTA will do to maintain fleet numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: So after doing another sweep of the boneyard this list of buses I've compiled have caught my attention as far as being LTH for maintenance reasons or early candidates for retirement. I don't want jump the gun too soon but after seeing the same usual suspects sit idle for this long with no movement and parts starting to be stripped only one can wonder when is it time to make that call so to speak. On a good note I did see #1197 finally getting worked on in the shops area after it has sat idle for two years in the boneyard. 1. 1684 2. 1756 3. 2013 4. 1825 5. 1732 6. 1704 7. 1697 8. 1794 9. 1012 10. 1765 11. 1771 12. 1890 13. 1883 14. 1740 15. 2008 16. 1820 17. 1930 18. 1922 19. 1869 20. 1746 21. 2016 22. 1670 23. 1935 1869 is active you probably meant 1870 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, Busjack said: Not as unexpected as one thinks. Actually only 1 under 1630. Options 3 and 4 (1630-2029) were the ones with carbon steel frames wrapped in aluminum, instead of stainless steel frames. Maybe they rusted. Interesting question is that after getting the 600 Novas, there was at least a plan to give a life extending rehab to 430 1000s. Unless these are sitting for that, it's hard to figure out what CTA will do to maintain fleet numbers. While the rust issue might be the first nail in the coffin due to sitting, I don't think that's the issue that landed those buses at SS. Some may be mechanical, others may be accident related. In any case, this could affect what CTA actually keeps around. Some of the 1000 - 1629 batch may outlast many of the 1630 -2029 batch. CTA will have to get a jolt from its electric bus fleet or bite the bullet and order one more round of diesel buses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 4 hours ago, artthouwill said: While the rust issue might be the first nail in the coffin due to sitting, I don't think that's the issue that landed those buses at SS. Some may be mechanical, others may be accident related. In any case, this could affect what CTA actually keeps around. Some of the 1000 - 1629 batch may outlast many of the 1630 -2029 batch. CTA will have to get a jolt from its electric bus fleet or bite the bullet and order one more round of diesel buses. Yeah you're right on that. I just wouldn't be surprised if certain blocks of buses from either option of 1000 - 1629 & 1630 - 2029 started getting sidelined in the next several months because the order of #8350s will be halfway delivered by then. There's already a shift of #7900s taking place that will soon effect the remaining fleet of 1000s getting replaced from certain garages. The pictures below just showcase what I've seen up close during walk through of the boneyard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabetlore1044 Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 22 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: Here is the 1000s in the boneyard Trying to retired them in their garages 1. 1684 (Kedzie) 2. 1756 (Kedzie) 3. 2013 (Chicago) 4. 1825 (North Park) 5. 1732 (Kedzie) 6. 1704 (Kedzie) 7. 1697 (Kedzie) 8. 1794 (North Park) 9. 1012 (Forest Glen) 10. 1765 (North Park) 11. 1771 (North Park) 12. 1890 (North Park) 13. 1883 (North Park) 14. 1740 (Kedzie) 15. 2008 (Chicago) 16. 1820 (North Park) 17. 1930 (Chicago or North Park) 18. 1922 (Chicago) 19. 1869 (North Park) 20. 1746 (Kedzie) 21. 2016 (Chicago) 22. 1670 (Kedzie) 23. 1935 (Chicago) What happens when all the 1000s gets Retired and 1010-1011 have WBs in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 My assumptions from last week about the last batch of buses I reported on appear to be true. #1646 is on LTH questionable for early retirement, parts have been stripped from the interior, farebox has been removed along with its ventra reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 I'll also add that 1614, 1730, 1868,1959,1996,1997 are still back there as well and I forgot to mention those in my list as well. So currently 30 1000s if I'm not mistaken are on LTH and are eligible for retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: My assumptions from last week about the last batch of buses I reported on appear to be true. #1646 is on LTH questionable for early retirement, parts have been stripped from the interior, farebox has been removed along with its ventra reader. Dam I wonder what went on with 1646 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Shannoncvpi said: Dam I wonder what went on with 1646 I do to because that's a bus out of Kedzie and they normally keep there equipment in decent shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm522 Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 8:04 PM, YoungBusLover said: Yeah you're right on that. I just wouldn't be surprised if certain blocks of buses from either option of 1000 - 1629 & 1630 - 2029 started getting sidelined in the next several months because the order of #8350s will be halfway delivered by then. There's already a shift of #7900s taking place that will soon effect the remaining fleet of 1000s getting replaced from certain garages. The pictures below just showcase what I've seen up close during walk through of the boneyard. 1930 looks all but done for, it is sad that some of 1900 and 2000 are in the boneyard. I noticed when it was hot this week that 1000 series has the best AC compared to Nova (7900s and 8350s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 6 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: I do to because that's a bus out of Kedzie and they normally keep there equipment in decent shape. Yea that's what I'm saying the only thing kedzie lack on is brake jobs lmfao almost all of their buses got singing brakes ? ? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, ajm522 said: 1930 looks all but done for, it is sad that some of 1900 and 2000 are in the boneyard. I noticed when it was hot this week that 1000 series has the best AC compared to Nova (7900s and 8350s). It’s very disappointing to see the newer 1000s from 2008 and 2009 in the 1630-2029 range built on carbon frames have severe issues with rusting in the structure while older ones from 2006-2007 don’t have the problem. This is why older equipment are in better shape. I wonder if it’s possible to fix the problem on the buses other than that these may end up retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Updated list of #1000's OOS. Note some may be in service but not tracking, #2017 being one of them saw it today on the 157. 1010 4/3/06 1/25/23, 8:52 AM 77 77 -413 F 1011 4/4/06 1/25/23, 8:40 AM 68 81W-407 F 1012 3/18/06 1053 5/11/06 3/16/23, 6:30 PM 78 78 -401 F 1070 6/16/06 3/17/23, 9:40 AM 28 28 -103 3 1125 7/9/06 1150 11/2/06 1190 9/24/06 3/14/23, 7:56 AM 34 119 -103 3 1197 9/10/06 1228 10/6/06 1278 3/28/07 1293 1/29/07 3/4/23, 7:10 PM 4 4 -708 7 1305 11/30/06 1311 1/21/07 2/16/23 53A 53A-705 7 1355 2/27/07 1407 4/12/07 3/17/23, 5:40 PM 65 65 -855 C 1413 5/22/07 1/27/23, 4:00 AM 9 N9 -693 6 1431 9/7/07 2/15/23, 7:40 PM 2 2 -762 7 1447 9/16/07 1497 10/12/07 1/28/23, 12:50 PM 47 47 -610 6 1517 11/18/07 1527 11/26/07 3/1/23, 6:40 PM X49 X49 -653 6 1551 12/6/07 1606 2/26/08 2/28/23, 7:20 PM 85 85 -456 F 1614 3/25/08 1620 3/6/08 2/17/23, 9:00 AM 60 60 -213 K 1626 3/23/08 1628 3/27/08 1646 4/17/08 1670 5/9/08 1671 5/6/08 1684 5/15/08 1685 6/9/08 3/8/23, 5:50 PM 156 156 -258 K 1697 7/14/08 1704 6/2/08 1730 6/19/08 1732 7/24/08 1739 6/26/08 2/1/23, 9:40 AM 60 60 -217 K 1740 6/26/08 1746 7/17/08 1756 8/19/08 1765 7/18/08 1771 7/16/08 12/14/22, 8:30 AM 148 SS -502 P 1794 8/19/08 12/31/22, 5:20 PM 22 22 -501 P 1805 9/13/08 1811 8/17/08 3/17/23, 6:00 PM 201 201 -502 P 1814 8/18/08 3/10/23, 1:40 PM 22 22 -506 P 1820 8/22/08 3/10/23, 1:30 AM 151 151 -524 P 1821 9/3/08 1825 9/2/08 1849 9/13/08 3/5/23, 9:40 AM 39 39 -203 K 1859 9/27/08 1868 10/2/08 1/10/23, 6:00 PM 96 96 -502 P 1870 10/1/08 1883 10/24/08 3/13/23, 11:20 PM 50 50 -552 P 1890 1/5/09 12/15/22, 6:40 PM 97 97 -505 P 1922 11/26/08 1925 12/6/08 1930 12/6/08 1935 12/12/08 1948 1/3/09 1952 1/8/09 2/2/23, 5:20 PM 66 66 -857 C 1959 1/14/09 1961 1/19/09 1971 1/21/09 2/23/23, 9:50 AM 57 57 -801 C 1993 2/19/09 1996 3/3/09 1997 3/6/09 2008 3/20/09 1/19/23, 6:10 PM 74 74 -853 C 2013 3/26/09 2016 4/3/09 1/19/23, 1:30 AM 20 20 -854 C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 11 hours ago, Bus1883 said: It’s very disappointing to see the newer 1000s from 2008 and 2009 in the 1630-2029 range built on carbon frames have severe issues with rusting in the structure while older ones from 2006-2007 don’t have the problem. This is why older equipment are in better shape. I wonder if it’s possible to fix the problem on the buses other than that these may end up retired. Yea I learned when I seen 1447 that the rust is taking a toll on alot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1279 Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 11:14 AM, YoungBusLover said: Updated list of #1000's OOS. Note some may be in service but not tracking, #2017 being one of them saw it today on the 157. 1010 4/3/06 1/25/23, 8:52 AM 77 77 -413 F 1011 4/4/06 1/25/23, 8:40 AM 68 81W-407 F 1012 3/18/06 1053 5/11/06 3/16/23, 6:30 PM 78 78 -401 F 1070 6/16/06 3/17/23, 9:40 AM 28 28 -103 3 1125 7/9/06 1150 11/2/06 1190 9/24/06 3/14/23, 7:56 AM 34 119 -103 3 1197 9/10/06 1228 10/6/06 1278 3/28/07 1293 1/29/07 3/4/23, 7:10 PM 4 4 -708 7 1305 11/30/06 1311 1/21/07 2/16/23 53A 53A-705 7 1355 2/27/07 1407 4/12/07 3/17/23, 5:40 PM 65 65 -855 C 1413 5/22/07 1/27/23, 4:00 AM 9 N9 -693 6 1431 9/7/07 2/15/23, 7:40 PM 2 2 -762 7 1447 9/16/07 1497 10/12/07 1/28/23, 12:50 PM 47 47 -610 6 1517 11/18/07 1527 11/26/07 3/1/23, 6:40 PM X49 X49 -653 6 1551 12/6/07 1606 2/26/08 2/28/23, 7:20 PM 85 85 -456 F 1614 3/25/08 1620 3/6/08 2/17/23, 9:00 AM 60 60 -213 K 1626 3/23/08 1628 3/27/08 1646 4/17/08 1670 5/9/08 1671 5/6/08 1684 5/15/08 1685 6/9/08 3/8/23, 5:50 PM 156 156 -258 K 1697 7/14/08 1704 6/2/08 1730 6/19/08 1732 7/24/08 1739 6/26/08 2/1/23, 9:40 AM 60 60 -217 K 1740 6/26/08 1746 7/17/08 1756 8/19/08 1765 7/18/08 1771 7/16/08 12/14/22, 8:30 AM 148 SS -502 P 1794 8/19/08 12/31/22, 5:20 PM 22 22 -501 P 1805 9/13/08 1811 8/17/08 3/17/23, 6:00 PM 201 201 -502 P 1814 8/18/08 3/10/23, 1:40 PM 22 22 -506 P 1820 8/22/08 3/10/23, 1:30 AM 151 151 -524 P 1821 9/3/08 1825 9/2/08 1849 9/13/08 3/5/23, 9:40 AM 39 39 -203 K 1859 9/27/08 1868 10/2/08 1/10/23, 6:00 PM 96 96 -502 P 1870 10/1/08 1883 10/24/08 3/13/23, 11:20 PM 50 50 -552 P 1890 1/5/09 12/15/22, 6:40 PM 97 97 -505 P 1922 11/26/08 1925 12/6/08 1930 12/6/08 1935 12/12/08 1948 1/3/09 1952 1/8/09 2/2/23, 5:20 PM 66 66 -857 C 1959 1/14/09 1961 1/19/09 1971 1/21/09 2/23/23, 9:50 AM 57 57 -801 C 1993 2/19/09 1996 3/3/09 1997 3/6/09 2008 3/20/09 1/19/23, 6:10 PM 74 74 -853 C 2013 3/26/09 2016 4/3/09 1/19/23, 1:30 AM 20 20 -854 C 1053 returned back to service this morning seen it last night pull into forest glen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1279 said: 1053 returned back to service this morning seen it last night pull into forest glen 10-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphabetlore1044 Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 The 800s/900s are now Scrapped Except 804 still in the Boneyard. is same time. It's time to Retired the 1000s soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, alphabetlore1044 said: The 800s/900s are now Scrapped Except 804 still in the Boneyard. is same time. It's time to Retired the 1000s soon Dam they been back there fr almost a decade & 804 is over there by 6127 & 199e behind Foreman mills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 3 hours ago, alphabetlore1044 said: The 800s/900s are now Scrapped Except 804 still in the Boneyard. is same time. It's time to Retired the 1000s soon That is false a good portion are still back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 3 hours ago, alphabetlore1044 said: The 800s/900s are now Scrapped Except 804 still in the Boneyard. is same time. It's time to Retired the 1000s soon Every 800-series except 801 is back there so that’s 9/10 buses. While 905 is the only 900-series bus back there while the other 9 buses in the 900-series are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 3 hours ago, alphabetlore1044 said: The 800s/900s are now Scrapped Except 804 still in the Boneyard. is same time. It's time to Retired the 1000s soon It may be a while before any other 1000s retire. With some of the 2008 and 09 models having rust issues who knows what the future will hold up for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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