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7 hours ago, andrethebusman said:

So if 55 needs a fill-in, pulling an electric off 63 might not be too good an idea.

They both lay over at Midway, so what's the big deal? Same theory as that any route out of Navy Pier could go electric. Also, CTA demonstrated on route 21 that they can go 8 hours between recharges, and the batteries now have 3 times the capacity.

7 hours ago, andrethebusman said:

the plan is to have "mixed service" with both electrics and diesels on the route. Kind of hedging your bets? 

The "first to arrive by the end of [last] year" didn't happen, and it was supposed to be gradual delivery of the base order of 20 Proterras, plus rebuilding 2 NFs. 66 needs about 23 buses, and 63 19 buses (at 8 a.m., per @maths22's tracker). Whatever the motivation, you do the math.

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Haven’t seen this mentioned elsewhere on the forum, thought it was worth a mention.

Full Description:

How does this affect my trip? 
Buses in both directions will operate via Ogden between Western and California.

Buses will no longer operate on 16th.

Note: The #18 bus stops on 16th Street at California, Washtenaw, Rockwell, and Western, and on Washtenaw at 15th and at Ogden will be eliminated. Customers can board buses on Western at 16th and 14th, and on Ogden at Western, Rockwell, Washtenaw, and California. 

Allow extra time.

Why is service being changed? 
Service is being changed due to the permanent closure of the intersection at 16th/Washtenaw to thru traffic.

https://www.transitchicago.com/travel-information/alert-detail/?AlertId=55216

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6 hours ago, KedziePink said:

Haven’t seen this mentioned elsewhere on the forum, thought it was worth a mention.

Full Description:

How does this affect my trip? 
Buses in both directions will operate via Ogden between Western and California.

Buses will no longer operate on 16th.

Note: The #18 bus stops on 16th Street at California, Washtenaw, Rockwell, and Western, and on Washtenaw at 15th and at Ogden will be eliminated. Customers can board buses on Western at 16th and 14th, and on Ogden at Western, Rockwell, Washtenaw, and California. 

Allow extra time.

Why is service being changed? 
Service is being changed due to the permanent closure of the intersection at 16th/Washtenaw to thru traffic.

https://www.transitchicago.com/travel-information/alert-detail/?AlertId=55216

So is 16th becoming one-way? Or is the intersection literally disappearing? I ask because the 157 also uses that intersection and I see no notice.

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13 minutes ago, NewFlyerMCI said:

So is 16th becoming one-way? Or is the intersection literally disappearing? I ask because the 157 also uses that intersection and I see no notice.

It looks like it will become a  cul de sac, which means no thru traffic. The 157 doesn't use 16th between Wester and Washtenaw.  It uses Ogden, so the 18 will share the 157 routing in that area.   

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5 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

It looks like it will become a  cul de sac, which means no thru traffic. The 157 doesn't use 16th between Wester and Washtenaw.  It uses Ogden, so the 18 will share the 157 routing in that area.   

Ah, so the cul-de-sac is at 16th & Western? I thought it was at 16th & Washtenaw, which would've affected the 157's turnaround.

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18th was just too attractive a shortcut... Ever since the 90's the city has had a program to force as much traffic as possible onto arterials and off secondary streets.

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This could be the reason, based on this article

Cinespace Studios (which have bought property from the old Ryerson steel plant in that vicinity) have leased portions of 16th street east of Washtenaw, after the City Council last year approved its latest expansion plan. That includes rerouting the #18 bus.

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According to Crain's, the city is facilitating the 60-acre backlot by closing a one-block section of Rockwell Street between 15th and 16th streets as well as a one-block section of 15th Street east of Rockwell Street. Cinespace will also lease a two-block section of 16th Street east of Washtenaw Avenue from the city and shell out $250,000 for new signage and the rerouting of the 16th Street bus.

And from Crain's:

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The agreement calls for the city to vacate a one-block stretch of Rockwell Street between 15th Street and 16th Street, and a one-block section of 15th from Rockwell east to the viaduct. A two-block stretch of 16th from Washtenaw Avenue to the viaduct adjoining Webster will be leased to Cinespace for five years at a time, Pissios said.

The production company at this point is not paying the city to close off and fence in the streets involved. But, Pissios said, it is paying about $250,000 for new street signs and other signals, and Chicago Transit Authority costs in rerouting its 16th Street bus.

 

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On 1/28/2019 at 12:12 AM, Shannon CVPI said:

My question is what is the point of swapping buses for the same buses in some cases like when C sent there 13's 14's to 77th&74th just to get 18's from K 

I think it has a lot to do with mileage on the buses. 

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