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26 minutes ago, andrethebusman said:

Just thinking - how many major accidents have New Novas been in already? Seems like a lot! Another one on Damen at Washington into building today?

8594 which got wrecked in july of 2024

8499 wasn’t wrecked but looks like it’s retired sitting on the 79th fence after allegedly being involved in an accident on 12/1/2024

8572 got wrecked in January of 2025

8660 got burnt in February of 2025

8640 was involved in a minor accident on April 7th and hasn’t been seen since

8494 has been at South shops for about three months

 apparently 8396 got in a crash last month

8917 got rear ended last weekend

 now it is 8792 wrecked

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Don't it seem like every new fleet of bus new flyer, Nova even busses from the past. Flxible ,TMC? MAN  GM fishbowl. There a handful that's always gotten cracked up in the first few years of their career it's like it's just going to happen it's unfortunate but it's something that happens

 

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

8594 which got wrecked in july of 2024

8499 wasn’t wrecked but looks like it’s retired sitting on the 79th fence after allegedly being involved in an accident on 12/1/2024

8572 got wrecked in January of 2025

8660 got burnt in February of 2025

8640 was involved in a minor accident on April 7th and hasn’t been seen since

8494 has been at South shops for about three months

 apparently 8396 got in a crash last month

8917 got rear ended last weekend

 now it is 8792 wrecked

That’s 9 units total. South fence is officially a dead lot and appears to not be what it used to be. There are retired flyers making up 2/3s of it

Posted
1 minute ago, Bus1883 said:

That’s 9 units total. South fence is officially a dead lot and appears to not be what it used to be. There are retired flyers making up 2/3s of it

If so, they'll be there for another 11 years or so. 

Also, here"s a video of 8660, I can't figure out (1) how the fire broke out right in front of a fire station and a YouTuber, and (2) why the fire suppression system didn't stop the fire.

 

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3 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

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Somebody got the body together after the FD pulled the right rear apart. 🤭

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Posted
21 hours ago, Mr.cta85 said:

8901 is now at 74th. I personally hope it’s not a loaner given only have now 31 new novas while every other garage have way more lol.

Thats why they got stacked with so many 7900s to justify the lack of 8350s. I could see a garage trading away like 40-50 8350s for about 40-50 of 74ths 7900s within the next two picks. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Javi75 said:

Thats why they got stacked with so many 7900s to justify the lack of 8350s. I could see a garage trading away like 40-50 8350s for about 40-50 of 74ths 7900s within the next two picks. 

i thought a nova is a nova 

Posted
19 minutes ago, EasyMoney said:

i thought a nova is a nova 

Besides an about 10 years difference between an 8000 and 8900, there are differences, such as the front door and ramp, and the information display. I don't know if the lack of a rear window makes any difference. I also don't know if the 7900s have the collision avoidance system.

Even if they have the same powertrain, those on 7900s have maybe 300K more miles.

Posted
4 hours ago, Busjack said:

Besides an about 10 years difference between an 8000 and 8900, there are differences, such as the front door and ramp, and the information display. I don't know if the lack of a rear window makes any difference. I also don't know if the 7900s have the collision avoidance system.

Even if they have the same powertrain, those on 7900s have maybe 300K more miles.

i know the differences im a operator lol i only said that because a while ago somebody in here said 74th got a crap load of 7900s novas and aslo mentioned ("a nova is a nova")  

Posted
14 hours ago, Busjack said:

Besides an about 10 years difference between an 8000 and 8900, there are differences, such as the front door and ramp, and the information display. I don't know if the lack of a rear window makes any difference. I also don't know if the 7900s have the collision avoidance system.

Even if they have the same powertrain, those on 7900s have maybe 300K more miles.

All the new novas look very similar  to me especially between the 8325s and 8350s as they are identical. The 7900s are just plain garbage cans

Posted
2 hours ago, Bus1883 said:

All the new novas look very similar  to me especially between the 8325s and 8350s as they are identical. The 7900s are just plain garbage cans

The 8325s are 77900s with the windows of the 8350s.  The 8325s have the same interior lights and everything else except no rear window .  The 8350s don't have the interior lights that span across the ceiling but they have the information screens.   They als6 have the "doors open" and "doors closing" announcements at the rear doors.  There are some chime buttons on some of the standard poles as well.

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6 hours ago, artthouwill said:

The 8325s are 77900s with the windows of the 8350s.  The 8325s have the same interior lights and everything else except no rear window .  The 8350s don't have the interior lights that span across the ceiling but they have the information screens.   They als6 have the "doors open" and "doors closing" announcements at the rear doors.  There are some chime buttons on some of the standard poles as well.

Bingo!

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The real differences between the last three orders of LFS models is simply engine, transmissions, braking systems and suspension components. #7900s having the worst braking systems compared to the other two series if we're being honest. The #7900s also have the worst A/C compared to the other two series it's like a sauna in there at times now some nova's recently at 77th have gotten tinted windows such as #7912 but even then I haven't noticed much of a difference. The only thing the #7900s are good for is the instant take off when accelerating where as the #8325s and #8350s have a slow disengage from the station brake when accelerating, it's almost like a lag on acceleration if that makes sense. It's more noticeable on the #8350s from what I've experienced operating them. All the other miscellaneous stuff mentioned is just eye candy for the passengers to distinguish but even then they wouldn't care because to them. "A bus is a bus." The one major drawback with all three series is the overhead compartment (Overhead Console) is so fragile that over time it will crack, rust and bend due to the amount of stress that gets put on it over the course of it's service life. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, YoungBusLover said:

The real differences between the last three orders of LFS models is simply engine, transmissions, braking systems and suspension components. #7900s having the worst braking systems compared to the other two series if we're being honest. The #7900s also have the worst A/C compared to the other two series it's like a sauna in there at times now some nova's recently at 77th have gotten tinted windows such as #7912 but even then I haven't noticed much of a difference. The only thing the #7900s are good for is the instant take off when accelerating where as the #8325s and #8350s have a slow disengage from the station brake when accelerating, it's almost like a lag on acceleration if that makes sense. It's more noticeable on the #8350s from what I've experienced operating them. All the other miscellaneous stuff mentioned is just eye candy for the passengers to distinguish but even then they wouldn't care because to them. "A bus is a bus." The one major drawback with all three series is the overhead compartment (Overhead Console) is so fragile that over time it will crack, rust and bend due to the amount of stress that gets put on it over the course of it's service life. 

I never got the chance to drive thiose Novas, but I can tell that they have the best turn radius.

Posted
8 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

I never got the chance to drive thiose Novas, but I can tell that they have the best turn radius.

Oh trust me they do with the help of that shorter wheel base. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, YoungBusLover said:

Oh trust me they do with the help of that shorter wheel base. 

That's because they have a shorter wheelbase, because, even with the nose, they are 40', while other BRT style buses are 42'.

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