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[strictures]

I occasionally ride 4000s out of the 103rd garage.

Some of them have a display that's supposed to show connecting buses, but the display has never been made operational.

All that's on them is some text saying that it can't update or download the info.

Is this thing ever going to be operational?

Or is it yet another waste of money?

[Busjack]

I occasionally ride 4000s out of the 103rd garage.

Some of them have a display that's supposed to show connecting buses, but the display has never been made operational.

All that's on them is some text saying that it can't update or download the info.

Is this thing ever going to be operational?

Or is it yet another waste of money?

It was part of the Jeffery Jump grant. Thus, the question first is whether you were riding route J14 on buses with the Jump wrap.

Otherwise, there might be a problem with the cellular data link or the system identifying where the bus is at the moment.

As far as waste of money, I guess it depends what small part of the $10 million Jeffery Jump grant from the feds is involved (probably a small bit), If it was an experiment whether roving bus tracker would work, maybe an unsuccessful experiment still proves something.

[jajuan]

I've decided to shoot a video of a training with a Nova (#6685). Too bad it wasn't a 7900.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3yhn84972ly4ta5/2014-07-29%2012.54.26.mov

Was that an operator at the end who could be heard commenting not bad for a rookie?

I occasionally ride 4000s out of the 103rd garage.

Some of them have a display that's supposed to show connecting buses, but the display has never been made operational.

All that's on them is some text saying that it can't update or download the info.

Is this thing ever going to be operational?

Or is it yet another waste of money?

Balid point by Busjack.

[garmon757]

Was that an operator at the end who could be heard commenting not bad for a rookie?

Well, that was me commenting but if any operator said something referring about it then I didn't hear it even though one of the supervisors smiled at me.

[jajuan]

Well, that was me commenting but if any operator said something referring about it then I didn't hear it even though one of the supervisors smiled at me.

Ah that was you. I thought maybe one of the garage personnel on scene noticed you watching and was proud to be able to brag about the trainee doing well handling the bus.

[garmon757]

Ah that was you. I thought maybe one of the garage personnel on scene noticed you watching and was proud to be able to brag about the trainee doing well handling the bus.

Hey it might be me one day! :lol:

[strictures]

It was part of the Jeffery Jump grant. Thus, the question first is whether you were riding route J14 on buses with the Jump wrap.

Otherwise, there might be a problem with the cellular data link or the system identifying where the bus is at the moment.

As far as waste of money, I guess it depends what small part of the $10 million Jeffery Jump grant from the feds is involved (probably a small bit), If it was an experiment whether roving bus tracker would work, maybe an unsuccessful experiment still proves something.

I'm riding the SB 192, which was a J14, & then deadheads to the 103 garage after 57th & Cottage.

The afternoon NB 192s become J14s after they let off the remaining riders at Madison & Clinton.

Not once has the display ever worked.

So does the display working depend on the route number of the bus?

[jajuan]

I'm riding the SB 192, which was a J14, & then deadheads to the 103 garage after 57th & Cottage.

The afternoon NB 192s become J14s after they let off the remaining riders at Madison & Clinton.

Not once has the display ever worked.

So does the display working depend on the route number of the bus?

I think the crux of what Jack is getting at is whether it turns out the idea of tracking other buses from a point which is itself continually in motion, specifically a J14 bus equipped with the Tracker screens, more ambitious an idea than CTA anticipated, Keep in mind outside of the J14 wrapped buses, BusTracker is tracking buses relative to stationary bus stops, while these screens are based on the idea of tracking buses relative to that bus itself which like the buses it's being asked to track is in continual motion.

[garmon757]

I'm riding the SB 192, which was a J14, & then deadheads to the 103 garage after 57th & Cottage.

The afternoon NB 192s become J14s after they let off the remaining riders at Madison & Clinton.

Not once has the display ever worked.

So does the display working depend on the route number of the bus?

I think the crux of what Jack is getting at is whether it turns out the idea of tracking other buses from a point which is itself continually in motion, specifically a J14 bus equipped with the Tracker screens, more ambitious an idea than CTA anticipated, Keep in mind outside of the J14 wrapped buses, BusTracker is tracking buses relative to stationary bus stops, while these screens are based on the idea of tracking buses relative to that bus itself which like the buses it's being asked to track is in continual motion.

It think that it would be fair if all buses are equipped with the display (not all at once), especially the 7900s in which I was surprised that they didn't have them.

[Busjack]

I'm riding the SB 192, which was a J14, & then deadheads to the 103 garage after 57th & Cottage.

The afternoon NB 192s become J14s after they let off the remaining riders at Madison & Clinton.

Not once has the display ever worked.

So does the display working depend on the route number of the bus?

Since it was part of the J14 project, I'm sure the answer is yes.

It is one thing to say what 79 will next be at the corner of Jeffery and 79th, another to assume that the API is programmed for the entire system.

Since that's his business, I'm sure Kevin can better say how the API (application programming interface) works, and might work for this project.

I'm also sure that someone else, like Sam92, can say whether the screen worked on Jeffery Blvd.

Update: To elaborate on what jajuan said I said, I'm assuming that the Clever Device, besides saying and displaying "83rd St." tells the API that it is approaching 79th, and to pull the info for the two bus stop numbers on 79th. Then that data has to be obtained from the server. You can see from that where the links may break down, and that it probably isn't programmed to pull the information for 53rd and Lake Park.

[garmon757]

#6424 has moved from 74th to Chicago. Currently on #66.

[BusHunter]

Saw some NF's yesterday on the #80. They were ball park extras though out of NP. (believe me I checked LOL!!) they were turning from Pulaski sb on to Irving Pk wb then they went to keeler turned nb turned again at the Kennedy exit ramp SE bound and finally got in place on Irving Pk at the Blue line EB. Since when does the #80 have ball park extras?

[garmon757]

Saw some NF's yesterday on the #80. They were ball park extras though out of NP. (believe me I checked LOL!!) they were turning from Pulaski sb on to Irving Pk wb then they went to keeler turned nb turned again at the Kennedy exit ramp SE bound and finally got in place on Irving Pk at the Blue line EB. Since when does the #80 have ball park extras?

Well Irving Park is walking distance from Wrigley Filed (1/2 mile). Otherwise, it's like saying what's the point having rush hour Purple Line trains stopping at Sheridan.

[BusHunter]

Well Irving Park is walking distance from Wrigley Filed (1/2 mile). Otherwise, it's like saying what's the point having rush hour Purple Line trains stopping at Sheridan.

I wonder if it's just for night games and do they ever run artics?

[garmon757]

I wonder if it's just for night games and do they ever run artics?

Night games I can consider that very reasonable but artics??? I seriously doubt it.

[sw4400]

Living in the area of Lakeview, I've never seen NF's on #80 as ballpark extras, although I believe I saw 17XX on Irving Park once before(it had the blue LED) and a "P" in the run box. I've usually seen artics on the #152 doing Cubs runs during ballgames and Lane Tech runs when school lets out during the school year. On the same day I saw 17XX on #80, I also saw #4387 heading WB on #80(but Not In Service) and as I think more about it, #17XX was also WB on #80 but Not In Service. The artic was being followed by the D40LF. These were more than likely Cubs game trippers either returning to North Park or going to a staging area to return to Wrigley later on.

[jajuan]

Saw some NF's yesterday on the #80. They were ball park extras though out of NP. (believe me I checked LOL!!) they were turning from Pulaski sb on to Irving Pk wb then they went to keeler turned nb turned again at the Kennedy exit ramp SE bound and finally got in place on Irving Pk at the Blue line EB. Since when does the #80 have ball park extras?

Well Irving Park is walking distance from Wrigley Filed (1/2 mile). Otherwise, it's like saying what's the point having rush hour Purple Line trains stopping at Sheridan.

I think what BusHunter was getting at is that with the 154 now gone after the Cubs changed up its remote parking contracts this season, the Cubs extra trippers from NP that replaced the 154's function have been on the 152 this year. I don't remember any of this year's Cubs extras being on the 80 either, and that makes It a rare sighting indeed. The only manner I'd always see Irving Park involved is from the extras that were 152s deadheading along Irving Park. Good catch BusHunter.

[BusHunter]

I think what BusHunter was getting at is that with the 154 now gone after the Cubs changed up its remote parking contracts this season, the Cubs extra trippers from NP that replaced the 154's function have been on the 152 this year. I don't remember any of this year's Cubs extras being on the 80 either, and that makes It a rare sighting indeed. The only manner I'd always see Irving Park involved is from the extras that were 152s deadheading along Irving Park. Good catch BusHunter.

There were two of them I saw back to back around 6PM #1325 and an #1860? The #1325 bus tried to turn NW bound on the exit ramp/drive there, but I guess he figured out that goes the wrong way. It seemed like the driver's were a little confused on where to turn to get in place like it doesn't happen too often with the same driver's probably off the extra board they would always be different and most likely newer operators to the system. Buses were displaying the #80 to Lake Shore sign the entire time even when they were on Pulaski. Maybe those routes had to be programmed manually because wouldn't the destination just click into place when the bus reached it's destination. (Irving Pk blue line)

[jajuan]

There were two of them I saw back to back around 6PM #1325 and an #1860? The #1325 bus tried to turn NW bound on the exit ramp/drive there, but I guess he figured out that goes the wrong way. It seemed like the driver's were a little confused on where to turn to get in place like it doesn't happen too often with the same driver's probably off the extra board they would always be different and most likely newer operators to the system. Buses were displaying the #80 to Lake Shore sign the entire time even when they were on Pulaski. Maybe those routes had to be programmed manually because wouldn't the destination just click into place when the bus reached it's destination. (Irving Pk blue line)

Or the Clever Device monitor could have displayed that the buses were off route until they got into position at the Blue Line, kind of like some buses on deadheads to their home garages do at those moments said buses still have a route destination display showing instead of automatically clicking to display the home garage name.

[pudgym29]

Or the Clever Device monitor could have displayed that the buses were off route until they got into position at the Blue Line, kind of like some buses on deadheads to their home garages do at those moments said buses still have a route destination display showing instead of automatically clicking to display the home garage name.

Yes. Tonight while waiting for an eastbound #81 Lawrence bus @ Kimball, a terminating #93 North California bus briefly displayed "to Kedzie/Foster" before turning off all signage and pulling out.

[fg.mark]

Or the Clever Device monitor could have displayed that the buses were off route until they got into position at the Blue Line, kind of like some buses on deadheads to their home garages do at those moments said buses still have a route destination display showing instead of automatically clicking to display the home garage name.

There were two of them I saw back to back around 6PM #1325 and an #1860? The #1325 bus tried to turn NW bound on the exit ramp/drive there, but I guess he figured out that goes the wrong way. It seemed like the driver's were a little confused on where to turn to get in place like it doesn't happen too often with the same driver's probably off the extra board they would always be different and most likely newer operators to the system. Buses were displaying the #80 to Lake Shore sign the entire time even when they were on Pulaski. Maybe those routes had to be programmed manually because wouldn't the destination just click into place when the bus reached it's destination. (Irving Pk blue line)

Some of the afternoon FG pullouts deadheading to their route have the destination sign in place. I've seen 77 Belmont | to Harlem heading southbound on Harlem to Belmont as well as 152 Addison | to Cumberland and both 80 Irving Park | to Cumberland and 80 Irving Park | to Lake Shore heading southbound on Central.

[ajm522]

Bus 1046 out of 77th has this weird set up where a set of handicap seats is gone, (it goes from 5 seats to 3 seats on right side of bus) . In its place is a 3 seat deep blue color bench like on 4300's it's weird.

[garmon757]

Bus 1046 out of 77th has this weird set up where a set of handicap seats is gone, (it goes from 5 seats to 3 seats on right side of bus) . In its place is a 3 seat deep blue color bench like on 4300's it's weird.

You couldn't get any pics of it?

[andrethebusman]

I think what BusHunter was getting at is that with the 154 now gone after the Cubs changed up its remote parking contracts this season, the Cubs extra trippers from NP that replaced the 154's function have been on the 152 this year. I don't remember any of this year's Cubs extras being on the 80 either, and that makes It a rare sighting indeed. The only manner I'd always see Irving Park involved is from the extras that were 152s deadheading along Irving Park. Good catch BusHunter.

FG usually sends out 6 Addison (F261-F266) and 2 Irving Park (F879-F880) Cubs buses, North Park sends 6 Addisons (P461-P466). There are usually a couple of 80's that start at Addison/Clark after the game, north on Clark and west on Irving Park.

Sometimes NP will send out an artic or two, but usually 40's. "Remote Parking" is now sad at Irving Park/Rockwell. First Transit school buses, usually almost empty.

[BusHunter]

FG usually sends out 6 Addison (F261-F266) and 2 Irving Park (F879-F880) Cubs buses, North Park sends 6 Addisons (P461-P466). There are usually a couple of 80's that start at Addison/Clark after the game, north on Clark and west on Irving Park.

Sometimes NP will send out an artic or two, but usually 40's. "Remote Parking" is now sad at Irving Park/Rockwell. First Transit school buses, usually almost empty.

Except these were going to the game EB, I quickly caught a glimpse of the run number it might have been P282, but I couldn't be positive on that. Yeah #282's thriving, now you can see mini convoys of buses on the Kennedy, there was even some #779's I saw mixed in last time.