NewFlyerMCI Posted June 25, 2019 Report Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 6:49 PM, WCR said: There's an order for 30/35ft Xcelsiors? From what I've read here there were two orders, one for 75 40ft buses from NFI (to replace NABIs) and one for 164 30ft buses from El Dorado (to replace some of the 2600s). Expand You're totally right, I mixed myself up. Yes, the flyers are 40' only and the El Dorados are 30' & 40' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted January 17, 2020 Report Share Posted January 17, 2020 Now that we have a Flyer prototype on the property with plans for deliveries kicking off in March, any further word on the new El Dorados? I didn't hear anything about them in the last board meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 12:40 AM, WCR said: Now that we have a Flyer prototype on the property with plans for deliveries kicking off in March, any further word on the new El Dorados? I didn't hear anything about them in the last board meeting. Expand Didn't pace purchase more 30ft Eldorado buses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted January 21, 2020 Report Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 2:33 AM, John7 said: Didn't pace purchase more 30ft Eldorado buses? Expand Yeah, 164 of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Still waiting on 164 more of these... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 5:27 AM, WCR said: Still waiting on 164 more of these... Expand Nothing exciting about those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 1:23 PM, artthouwill said: Nothing exciting about those. Expand What's not exciting about them? They're 30ft BRT style buses that there currently isn't much of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 I might be a little off topic, but I noticed this bus (6372) has a bigger rear number now rather than last summer. I also noticed a few buses are getting the numbers on the front into a new font too (near the blue retarder light), and 6372, 6362, and 6347 have the new number, while 6364 and 6352 have the old Helvetica number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 Been over a year and still no sign of these? Prototype even? They were ordered with the Flyers and those started arriving in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted July 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 2:20 AM, WCR said: Been over a year and still no sign of these? Prototype even? They were ordered with the Flyers and those started arriving in March. Expand Do you mean the Eldorado EZ Riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 2:40 AM, artthouwill said: Do you mean the Eldorado EZ Riders? Expand Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted July 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 2:20 AM, WCR said: Been over a year and still no sign of these? Prototype even? They were ordered with the Flyers and those started arriving in March. Expand I could be wrong but I don't think the EZ RIDERS have gone through an extensive enough modification to warrant prototypes. The Novas and Now Flyers have changed their models enough. Manufacturers that are now to an agency will also have to send prototypes. If these were EZ Rider 4s, maybe. I don't know. I guess someone will have to check S Holland, Heritage, Fox Valley, River, and North to see if any pop up. Maybe check out the Pace newsletter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcmetro Posted July 7, 2020 Report Share Posted July 7, 2020 RTAs project update from May says 23 buses delivered by July, so any day now I guess. Says they will go to Fox Valley and MV Batavia. http://www.rtams.org/rtams/pmoProject.jsp?id=1037 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/7/2020 at 3:33 PM, Tcmetro said: RTAs project update from May says 23 buses delivered by July, so any day now I guess. Says they will go to Fox Valley and MV Batavia. http://www.rtams.org/rtams/pmoProject.jsp?id=1037 Expand hmm they only ordered 23 buses? The minimum order is 67, so they probably go to other outlying garages also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcmetro Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 5:30 AM, BusHunter said: hmm they only ordered 23 buses? The minimum order is 67, so they probably go to other outlying garages also. Expand My guess is that it's a multi-year contract and the 23 is just the first batch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 2:10 PM, Tcmetro said: My guess is that it's a multi-year contract and the 23 is just the first batch. Expand Yes, the 5 year contract calls for 164 buses should they execute after the 67. That's like 33 buses a year, so it's not something that will happen overnight. I seemed to have stumbled on a little confusion. When looking up the order, it states these will be Axess BRT 30 foot buses so they will be like their big brothers the #6323's. Now when looking up the Axess BRT it states on the Thor/eldorado website that the Axess BRT comes in 35 foot and 40 foot editions. So thinking about #2829 with it's Axess like front end, I was thinking but they make that, but my roster indicates those are easy riders, so is the order for a new model or the #2829 series like bus? Here's a few links for reference. Bus Order as reported in Masstransitmag.com https://www.masstransitmag.com/bus/vehicles/gas-diesel-cng-lng/press-release/21096689/eldorado-national-pace-awards-enc-with-23-transit-bus-order-as-part-of-fiveyear-contract Bus #2829: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mbernero/7654167468 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 3:43 PM, BusHunter said: Yes, the 5 year contract calls for 164 buses should they execute after the 67. That's like 33 buses a year, so it's not something that will happen overnight. I seemed to have stumbled on a little confusion. When looking up the order, it states these will be Axess BRT 30 foot buses so they will be like their big brothers the #6323's. Now when looking up the Axess BRT it states on the Thor/eldorado website that the Axess BRT comes in 35 foot and 40 foot editions. So thinking about #2829 with it's Axess like front end, I was thinking but they make that, but my roster indicates those are easy riders, so is the order for a new model or the #2829 series like bus? Here's a few links for reference. Bus Order as reported in Masstransitmag.com https://www.masstransitmag.com/bus/vehicles/gas-diesel-cng-lng/press-release/21096689/eldorado-national-pace-awards-enc-with-23-transit-bus-order-as-part-of-fiveyear-contract Bus #2829: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mbernero/7654167468 Expand I think the press release made it mistake. The Axxess buses are 35 ft and longer. The shorties are the EZ Riders. I believe their front caps were redesigned to match Axxess front cap, but clearly the order is fir EZ Riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcmetro Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 CPTDB says 2829 (EZ Rider) and the Pace Axess buses are the BRT styling options. The regular EZ Rider II MAX and the regular Axess also look the same on the front end. https://cptdb.ca/wiki/index.php/ElDorado_National_E-Z_Rider_II_BRT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 It's just the fact that it says Axess confuses me. Probably a press error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 Not at all what was expected... Rte 395, Willow Springs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 8:06 PM, WCR said: Not at all what was expected... Rte 395, Willow Springs Expand South Division? Pace might have ordered more CNG El Dorados for the PULSE Halsted line. Separate from the new 30ft bus order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 20501 is on the 349, 20504 is on the 352, 20502 is on the 395 as shown in the picture above, 20503 and 20505 are also on the 395. Is there a 20500 in this fleet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 8:25 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: South Division? Pace might have ordered more CNG El Dorados for the PULSE Halsted line. Separate from the new 30ft bus order. Expand You're probably correct, most likely a small order they tacked on. I'll try and find more of these this week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 8:30 PM, WCR said: You're probably correct, most likely a small order they tacked on. I'll try and find more of these this week. Expand I just saw that bus. Found it strange. do they have a rear door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted September 22, 2020 Report Share Posted September 22, 2020 On 9/22/2020 at 8:25 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: South Division? Pace might have ordered more CNG El Dorados for the PULSE Halsted line. Separate from the new 30ft bus order. Expand They don't have those LED screens like 6510-21. If they don't have rear doors then these are probably like 6377-91 & 6485-6509 for routes 877/888. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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