andrethebusman Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 LOL I didn't even glance at the 77th Buses in line. Thanks. And don't be too hard on 77th this time around. They did just give 31 artics a week ago though for very dumb reasons. If traffic was a detriment to artic use on the #79, 77th had other busy routes that could have made use of them and didn't suffer the traffic delays of 79th Street. Oh well, the #22 and #26 are benefiting from some extra artic use. Operating artics on local routes has always been a very difficult problem because of longer dwell times as with artics you have longer headways and thus more passengers getting on/off per stop. This is why most cities that have been successful artic operators have used them on limited-stop, usually expressway, high-ridership routes. Cities that tried to use them on local routes have in many cases abandoned the idea, and not replaced old ones as they max-age out. For instance, Milwaukee. Bought the Ikaruses for Freeway Flyers, but discovered capacity was just not needed, made a few efforts to use on school trippers on routes like the 15, but once the Ikaruses were retired, they were not replaced. When CTA had more expressway routes like the 99, 99M, 162, 164 there was a use for more artics. But running one on Broadway? Come on. The reality is that even on LSD routes like 146 and 147, Artics are still much, much slower over the road than a standard bus. I saw this many times driving the 6. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 #1266 is on #47 #1353 #1679 and #1694 are on #67 #1820 and #1905 remains on #9 while having #1253 and #1272 on that route. If anybody can check out #49 to see if any NP buses have 74th run numbers, that would be awesome. 1266 is back at NP since it's on the N22 this late night/early morning. So as I suspected those random NFs at 74th were loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 1266 is back at NP since it's on the N22 this late night/early morning. So as I suspected those random NFs at 74th were loans. Most of them are. #1272 still remains @ 74th (on #9) and #1529 and #1347 are also on #9 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm522 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 1928 is on #49 right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 Bus Moves over the weekend 9/6/14 Buses in Chicago = 1003-1005,1030,1377,1721,1329-1330 Forest Glen = 6423,6526,6528,6529,6532,6538,6551,6555-6557 Buses out 103rd = 1030,1005 77th = 1003-1004 Kedzie = 1377,1721 Chicago = 6423,6526,6528,6529,6532,6538,6551,6555-6557 North Park = 1329-1330 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleTransit1 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I saw #1272 on the #9 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 I saw #1272 on the #9 today.You're about 8 hours late about that because I already mentioned that this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 1997 on the 94 right now. Another apparent loan to 74th. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 1997 on the 94 right now. Another apparent loan to 74th.Remind me of the good days when #94 was part of Chicago before 74th! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleTransit1 Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 You're about 8 hours late about that because I already mentioned that this morning. Oh, now I see it. I didn't see the bus until I was out of school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Remind me of the good days when #94 was part of Chicago before 74th! Well when Chicago had runs on that route, the route was shared by both Chicago and 74th with Chicago having more runs than 74th during most days of service and thus considered the main garage. For that reason, during those days the 94 had more NFs than Novas in service because Chicago's Nova count was a handful compared to today. Around the same time that NP gave up its 20 Novas, if I'm not mistaken the 94 went completely to 74th and became mostly run with Novas even when 74th's NFs outnumbered its Novas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well when Chicago had runs on that route, the route was shared by both Chicago and 74th with Chicago having more runs than 74th during most days of service and thus considered the main garage. For that reason, during those days the 94 had more NFs than Novas in service because Chicago's Nova count was a handful compared to today. Around the same time that NP gave up its 20 Novas, if I'm not mistaken the 94 went completely to 74th and became mostly run with Novas even when 74th's NFs outnumbered its Novas. You're not mistaken at all because you're correct. To me, it think it was more convenient when #94 was operated by Chicago because on 74th's behalf, I was on that route a few months ago when I looked at the clever device and witnessed that the bus driver was 44 f'ing minutes late. How in the hell was that even possible??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 You're not mistaken at all because you're correct. To me, it think it was more convenient when #94 was operated by Chicago because on 74th's behalf, I was on that route a few months ago when I looked at the clever device and witnessed that the bus driver was 44 f'ing minutes late. How in the hell was that even possible??? If we're talking convenient from CTA's point of view, it's actually more logistical to have the route at 74th because of the fact that under the current route structure the southern layover point (for the operators not passengers as I learned from Andre) is actually right there in the garage lot on western side of the garage complex. Late operators or delays in service can happen anywhere in the system and if taken as a sole consideration don't really reflect the garage's ability to perform well with that route. You also have to look at how far does the bus have to deadhead to get to the route, obstacles to an operator reaching a relief point, overall general traffic conditions on the roadways that route travels, potential street blockages along the route because of things like construction or emergency activity from CPD or CFD, mechanical problems with the bus, doing what CTA calls a double street where that operator now has to take on his leader's passengers and take up the slack because his leader's bus is removed from scheduled service, and so on and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcherRider Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 This morning i saw #4117 on #146. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm522 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Most of them are. #1272 still remains @ 74th (on #9) and #1529 and #1347 are also on #9 right now. 1272 is still on a 74th route, do you think that this is a actual move rather then a loan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 1272 is still on a 74th route, do you think that this is a actual move rather then a loan? #1905 and #1820 are back at their home garages and they were loaned out for days, so I think maybe it's still a loan, but the sighting of #1003-05 at Chicago makes me wonder if those might be transfers because they are in numerical order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If we're talking convenient from CTA's point of view, it's actually more logistical to have the route at 74th because of the fact that under the current route structure the southern layover point (for the operators not passengers as I learned from Andre) is actually right there in the garage lot on western side of the garage complex. Late operators or delays in service can happen anywhere in the system and if taken as a sole consideration don't really reflect the garage's ability to perform well with that route. You also have to look at how far does the bus have to deadhead to get to the route, obstacles to an operator reaching a relief point, overall general traffic conditions on the roadways that route travels, potential street blockages along the route because of things like construction or emergency activity from CPD or CFD, mechanical problems with the bus, doing what CTA calls a double street where that operator now has to take on his leader's passengers and take up the slack because his leader's bus is removed from scheduled service, and so on and so on.Understandable and well said my friend! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So you guys want something to talk about explain this crazy looking bus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So you guys want something to talk about explain this crazy looking bus. what the hell.jpg what the hell rear.jpg Well, I can't tell you what it is used for(my speculation being some booster bus for dead batteries on buses or perhaps portable power for railcars?), but I can tell you what it is... This is a 5300-Series Flxible Metro with the Cummins L-10 engine(yes, get excited fans of 5745-5765!) Classic way of knowing this... Rails at the front are black and angled differently. The 6000's were painted yellow and slanted at a lower angle Alcoa rims. The only 5300-Series buses with these rims were 5745-5765, 5300-5744 and 5766-5769 all had the steel wheels seen on the TMC's and Flyers at the time. Slanted rear. The 5300-Series buses had the slight slant at the rear of the bus going toward the front. The 6000's were straightened out(no slant in the back) Exhaust pipe. The 5300's had a tailpipe only for exhaust. The 6000's had a tailpipe with the cover on it. Destination Sign: All 6000's got the front destination sign replaced with the LED display. This display(though blocky) is clearly a flip-dot display. Now if anyone has a Work Bus roster and can see what TI-2 was formerly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So you guys want something to talk about explain this crazy looking bus. what the hell.jpg what the hell rear.jpgOne thing for sure is that it's a former 5700s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 [*]Exhaust pipe. The 5300's had a tailpipe only for exhaust. The 6000's had a tailpipe with the cover onWhoa!!! I may be young but I remembered damn well that #5745-64 had the exhaust/tailpipe with the cover!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleTransit1 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So you guys want something to talk about explain this crazy looking bus. what the hell.jpg what the hell rear.jpg Where was it at? Skokie Shops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yesterday a friend of mine posted photos of the Western station on the Orange Line with a line of people wrapped around the entrance and the sidewalks. He said a person got hit by a train and that all the people were waiting for the #62 bus as an alternative. Here is the story reported via the Chicago Tribune. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 If we're talking convenient from CTA's point of view, it's actually more logistical to have the route at 74th because of the fact that under the current route structure the southern layover point (for the operators not passengers as I learned from Andre) is actually right there in the garage lot on western side of the garage complex. ... Understandable and well said my friend! Thanks! Another possible case of the loser leave town match. More than likely the layover is there because it is out of that garage, although an exception to that rule was that while the 24 bus used to turn through the Beverly garage lot, it was a 77 route. But, as discussed before, unless there was some real reason to get the bus out of Marquette Park, backtracking to 69th wasn't really serving any passengers, except those from 74th going to jury duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strictures Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So you guys want something to talk about explain this crazy looking bus. what the hell.jpg what the hell rear.jpg That's a Kubota generator at the front. I assume for work lights & maybe some power tools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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