Bus1883 Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 12:06 PM, Shannoncvpi said: Yes I was amazed to see this unless everything got fried cta will fix it just like they did 8194 a few years back if not it will retire Expand It could end up retired but it can be fixable since it is only going on 7 years old… Most likely it’ll be OOS for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 12:39 PM, Bus1883 said: Here’s the funny part tho my question is are we going through this once every year? #1993 caught fire in 2019, #1703 and #1757 in 2020, #6860 in 2021 and in the beginning of 2022 with #8144 the first 7900-series LFS to catch fire???? ???? Expand This stuff always happens, including the 700 that had the fire that only the chicagobus.org people knew about, but it was rebuilt. Seems like the overwhelming causes are brakes and tires, things which are within CTA's control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 12:39 PM, Bus1883 said: Here’s the funny part tho my question is are we going through this once every year? #1993 caught fire in 2019, #1703 and #1757 in 2020, #6860 in 2021 and in the beginning of 2022 with #8144 the first 7900-series LFS to catch fire???? ???? Expand #1703 caught fire in 2020? looking at 1703’s history in 2020 it ran all 12 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 4:43 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: #1703 caught fire in 2020? looking at 1703’s history in 2020 it ran all 12 months Expand Yeah it may have ran but the bus did catch fire but it was fairly small compared to #8144. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 3:36 PM, Busjack said: This stuff always happens, including the 700 that had the fire that only the chicagobus.org people knew about, but it was rebuilt. Seems like the overwhelming causes are brakes and tires, things which are within CTA's control. Expand The way the brake systems are designed, it is very necessary for drivers to make sure their brakes are fully released. Once upon a time a driver really only had to worry about that when releasing the parking brake. Nowadays with brakes on the front and back doors, drivers have to give a full brake application before taking off. Too many times I've seen buses taking off with the brake lights still on for a few seconds. Obviously a driver can't see that, but he can tell if the brakes are fully released by letting the foot off the brake. If the bus rolls freely, then they are fully released. I haven't paid any attention to the tires on CTA or Pace buses. Pasr experience has shown me that Firestone tires are more susceptible to failures than Goodyear. However I don't know CRA'S tire rotation and changing patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strictures Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 5:55 PM, artthouwill said: I haven't paid any attention to the tires on CTA or Pace buses. Pasr experience has shown me that Firestone tires are more susceptible to failures than Goodyear. However I don't know CRA'S tire rotation and changing patterns. Expand I'm not sure what tires are on the current buses, but the CTA used to use Goodyear City Cruiser tires, that had molded on the sidewall Maximum Speed 35 MPH! That was on buses that used Lake Shore Drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 11:32 PM, strictures said: I'm not sure what tires are on the current buses, but the CTA used to use Goodyear City Cruiser tires, that had molded on the sidewall Maximum Speed 35 MPH! That was on buses that used Lake Shore Drive. Expand you think drivers paid attention shit sometimes you’ll see a 147 doing 45 at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 11:32 PM, strictures said: I'm not sure what tires are on the current buses, but the CTA used to use Goodyear City Cruiser tires, that had molded on the sidewall Maximum Speed 35 MPH! That was on buses that used Lake Shore Drive. Expand I highly doubt they're using those now considering all the expressway use for deadheading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 12:39 PM, Bus1883 said: Here’s the funny part tho my question is are we going through this once every year? #1993 caught fire in 2019, #1703 and #1757 in 2020, #6860 in 2021 and in the beginning of 2022 with #8144 the first 7900-series LFS to catch fire???? ???? Expand Naw 8144 is not the first 7900 to catch fire 8194 had a fire when it was still brand new years ago but it got fixed & put back on the road just like 8094 when it slammed into a building causing 100k in damages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 1:19 PM, Bus1883 said: It could end up retired but it can be fixable since it is only going on 7 years old… Most likely it’ll be OOS for a while Expand Yea depends on if the frame is hurt if the frame not hurt then it may cone back only time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 1:26 AM, Shannoncvpi said: Naw 8144 is not the first 7900 to catch fire 8194 had a fire when it was still brand new years ago but it got fixed & put back on the road just like 8094 when it slammed into a building causing 100k in damages Expand So that makes #8144 the second one to catch fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 4:58 PM, YoungBusLover said: Yeah it may have ran but the bus did catch fire but it was fairly small compared to #8144. Expand #8144’s fire was nearly the size of the issue of #1305 IMO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 3:36 PM, Busjack said: This stuff always happens, including the 700 that had the fire that only the chicagobus.org people knew about, but it was rebuilt. Seems like the overwhelming causes are brakes and tires, things which are within CTA's control. Expand True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/28/2022 at 4:43 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: #1703 caught fire in 2020? looking at 1703’s history in 2020 it ran all 12 months Expand Sadly the OG shift gears didn’t make it through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 2:46 PM, Bus1883 said: #8144’s fire was nearly the size of the issue of #1305 IMO? Expand Isn't there a fire suppression system in the engine compartment? Maybe that's why the fire didn't consume the entire bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 2:50 PM, Busjack said: Isn't there a fire suppression system in the engine compartment? Maybe that's why the fire didn't consume the entire bus. Expand Yeah in most terms, buses come with a suppression system installed, in case of a fire starts the bus won’t be completely burned. Yet I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 2:50 PM, Busjack said: Isn't there a fire suppression system in the engine compartment? Maybe that's why the fire didn't consume the entire bus. Expand Yeah all buses come with it but in rare cases like this one here combustible components can overmatch any system. I got a good look at it last night and the damage resembles that of #1305 and #1150. I'd give it six months to a year before #8144 gets any type of attention pending an investigation. I still believe the rear exhaust was the culprit based on where the fire started and concentrated the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 2:54 PM, Bus1883 said: Yeah in most terms, buses come with a suppression system installed, in case of a fire starts the bus won’t be completely burned. Yet I could be wrong Expand Fure suppression systems keep fires contained or confined . Because fuel is very combustible, keeping fires cinfined is key. Keeping the engine compartment closed until firefighters came was a key factor in keeping the bus salvaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 4:03 PM, YoungBusLover said: Yeah all buses come with it but in rare cases like this one here combustible components can overmatch any system. I got a good look at it last night and the damage resembles that of #1305 and #1150. I'd give it six months to a year before #8144 gets any type of attention pending an investigation. I still believe the rear exhaust was the culprit based on where the fire started and concentrated the most. Expand chances are really low for #8144 to be repaired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 2:44 PM, Bus1883 said: So that makes #8144 the second one to catch fire Expand Yea its the second but 8194 was decent ot came back like a year or so later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 5:43 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: chances are really low for #8144 to be repaired Expand Same I said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 5:43 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: chances are really low for #8144 to be repaired Expand Sadly if it doesn’t make it out of the woods, it’ll become a parts bus for the rest of the 7900-series if it doesn’t get fixed. I’ll say it only has a 2 out of 10 chance of getting repaired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 3/1/2022 at 7:45 PM, Bus1883 said: Sadly if it doesn’t make it out of the woods, it’ll become a parts bus for the rest of the 7900-series if it doesn’t get fixed. I’ll say it only has a 2 out of 10 chance of getting repaired. Expand Samething I say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sam92 Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 4:12 PM, Shannoncvpi said: Got the 21 today so if you see me say yo young ni**a Expand I'll be on a red bike with a big orange box working by McCormick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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