jacksone44 Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 No. We are getting close! 1994 was on the 123 on thur. and 1995 was on the 87 yesterday. Might see it sometime early in the week (maybe on a 103rd route?) who knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cta_44499_FG Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Yes. Buses I'm used to seeing in service on #77 Belmont are on Bus Tracker on #151 Sheridan and #147 Outer Drive Express. Hoky smokes, Bullwinkle. Did Forest Glen also send over a Flxible?! Well that takes the need to prove that I had such bus...as I stated in another post that I was operating 6735 on the 151 that day. Thanks for doing the work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 We are getting close! 1994 was on the 123 on thur. and 1995 was on the 87 yesterday. Might see it sometime early in the week (maybe on a 103rd route?) who knows! Ive already spotted #1996 a week and a half ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Anyone boarding the #4080's should notice a slight difference to the interiors. Remember before when I noted that the blue dividers were kind of wide and stuck out. Well the dividers have now been switched to a smaller one. They look pretty good. the other ones were so big. I know for a fact #4087 has this new divider. In other swap news 77th has picked up to #6469 from Archer and has sent the #1907 - #1925 odds away to Np. Also the #4000's at 77th, that transferred to 103rd, have began appearing at Kedzie now. This morning #4018 and #4032 were on the #156 along with higher evens #4042 and #4048. What a difference a week makes. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Anyone boarding the #4080's should notice a slight difference to the interiors. Remember before when I noted that the blue dividers were kind of wide and stuck out. Well the dividers have now been switched to a smaller one. They look pretty good. the other ones were so big. I know for a fact #4087 has this new divider. In other swap news 77th has picked up to #6469 from Archer and has sent the #1911 - #1925 odds away to Np. Also the #4000's at 77th, that transferred to 103rd, have began appearing at Kedzie now. This morning #4018 and #4032 were on the #156 along with higher evens #4042 and #4048. What a difference a week makes. That explains why I saw 4046 heading for a school trip on 7 Harrison as I mentioned in the Bus Shortage thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordguy Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Anyone boarding the #4080's should notice a slight difference to the interiors. Remember before when I noted that the blue dividers were kind of wide and stuck out. Well the dividers have now been switched to a smaller one. They look pretty good. the other ones were so big. I know for a fact #4087 has this new divider. In other swap news 77th has picked up to #6469 from Archer and has sent the #1911 - #1925 odds away to Np. Also the #4000's at 77th, that transferred to 103rd, have began appearing at Kedzie now. This morning #4018 and #4032 were on the #156 along with higher evens #4042 and #4048. What a difference a week makes. Based on my travels over Bus Tracker this morning, there seem to have been quite a few additional bus movements over the weekend as well: --- All of the randomly selected loaners appear to have returned to their home garages. (Examples: Novas at NP, borrowed from FG, and assorted 1500s & low 1800s loaned to Kedzie from 103rd). --- 1228-1232(?) 77th to Kedzie --- 1368(?)-1379 Chicago to NP --- 1753(?)-1760 74th to NP --- 6080s & -90s FG to Kedzie --- 6844(?)-6855 FG to 77th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cta5658 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Based on my travels over Bus Tracker this morning, there seem to have been quite a few additional bus movements over the weekend as well: --- All of the randomly selected loaners appear to have returned to their home garages. (Examples: Novas at NP, borrowed from FG, and assorted 1500s & low 1800s loaned to Kedzie from 103rd). --- 1228-1232(?) 77th to Kedzie --- 1368(?)-1379 Chicago to NP --- 1753(?)-1760 74th to NP --- 6080s & -90s FG to Kedzie --- 6844(?)-6855 FG to 77th Has 103rd got any buses from other garages for loans? if so let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Has 103rd got any buses from other garages for loans? if so let me know Well #1985 was on the #29 last night, but on the flipside #1976 is today on the #87. #1952 has also been floating around at Kedzie. I've also seen as low as #1751 at Np for the 74th - NP loan. Some of these loaning garages have to be really coming up short. Archer has 26 buses less and FG has at least 15 -20 less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Based on my travels over Bus Tracker this morning, there seem to have been quite a few additional bus movements over the weekend as well: --- All of the randomly selected loaners appear to have returned to their home garages. (Examples: Novas at NP, borrowed from FG, and assorted 1500s & low 1800s loaned to Kedzie from 103rd). --- 1228-1232(?) 77th to Kedzie --- 1368(?)-1379 Chicago to NP --- 1753(?)-1760 74th to NP --- 6080s & -90s FG to Kedzie --- 6844(?)-6855 FG to 77th We got lower and higher 1300's than this at NP, wordguy. 1367(#11), 1394(#36) and 1375(#22) on Bustracker as of 11:02a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Based on my travels over Bus Tracker this morning, there seem to have been quite a few additional bus movements over the weekend as well: --- All of the randomly selected loaners appear to have returned to their home garages. (Examples: Novas at NP, borrowed from FG, and assorted 1500s & low 1800s loaned to Kedzie from 103rd). --- 1228-1232(?) 77th to Kedzie --- 1368(?)-1379 Chicago to NP --- 1753(?)-1760 74th to NP --- 6080s & -90s FG to Kedzie --- 6844(?)-6855 FG to 77th I thought 1228 was already at Kedzie before the NABI situation that's going on now. I do remember Kedzie getting a few lower end buses starting with 1226 from 77th at the same time it got a few 1600s from 103rd numbering in the 1620s about a month ago but could never get to see up to what number. I'm sure 1230-1232 are new additions though. As for 6000s, 6100 is among those it was on 12 Roosevelt yesterday. FG could have kept its 6000s, and why are they pulling so many buses from there anyway? I thought it was under a shortage of its own before this stituation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I thought 1228 was already at Kedzie before the NABI situation that's going on now. I do remember Kedzie getting a few lower end buses starting with 1226 from 77th at the same time it got a few 1600s from 103rd numbering in the 1620s about a month ago but could never get to see up to what number. I'm sure 1230-1232 are new additions though. As for 6000s, 6100 is among those it was on 12 Roosevelt yesterday. FG could have kept its 6000s, and why are they pulling so many buses from there anyway? I thought it was under a shortage of its own before this stituation. #1226 and #1227 were the two transferred before the NABI mess #1228 - #1232 are the new additions. #1622, #1624, #1626 and #1628 were the ones transferred from 103rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 #1226 and #1227 were the two transferred before the NABI mess #1228 - #1232 are the new additions. #1622, #1624, #1626 and #1628 were the ones transferred from 103rd. Ok thanks for the clear up. I knew about the buses from 103rd but just wasn't sure about the numbers of those from 77th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordguy Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 We got lower and higher 1300's than this at NP, wordguy. 1367(#11), 1394(#36) and 1375(#22) on Bustracker as of 11:02a. True, but I was referring to bus moves over this past weekend. 1380-1429 were transferred to NP earlier. But I didn't realize that 1367 was there, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Whose going to spot the first NF #2000? Let see who it ends up being. Well CTA5750, I've got your answer to this one. (Drumroll) The answer is. . . no one. Surprisingly buses #2000- #2029 have been renumbered #910 - #939. Yes they will be hybrids. Being that there numbered in the #900 series I'm assuming they will have the same setup as the 900 series. Weird that they go with #900's versus #800's, but it's possible NF might have offered up these because they are selling more of the traditional hybrid instead of this newer one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Whose going to spot the first NF #2000? Let see who it ends up being.Well CTA5750, I've got your answer to this one. (Drumroll) The answer is. . . no one. Surprisingly buses #2000- #2029 have been renumbered #910 - #939. Yes they will be hybrids. Being that there numbered in the #900 series I'm assuming they will have the same setup as the 900 series. Weird that they go with #900's versus #800's, but it's possible NF might have offered up these because they are selling more of the traditional hybrid instead of this newer one. I guess we have to ramp up 5750's contest with T8H's "do you have photographic proof of that." However, about a week ago, I had a premonition that it might not be "2000," but took that post down. Anyway, predicting anything has become too hazardous lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Surprisingly buses #2000-#2029 have been renumbered #910 - #939. Yes they will be hybrids. Until we get photo, video, or statement proof from CTA or New Flyer of America, I'm going to deem this as inaccurate(before you reply negatively, BusHunter, please continue reading below)... The contract was awarded to New Flyer of America around 2005-2006 for 1,050 buses, broken down as the following... -1,030 Diesel Buses -20 Diesel/Electric Hybrid Buses(broken down into two groups of 10: 10 w/ GM/Allison engines, and 10 w/ ISE/Thundervolt engines.) The CTA nor New Flyer haven't mentioned a change in these contracts(particurally since Diesel/Electric Hybrids cost more $$ than regular Diesel Buses, and the CTA is cash strapped as it is) If you can get photo, video, or statement evidence from the CTA or New Flyer w/ regards to this, I'll retract this post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Well CTA5750, I've got your answer to this one. (Drumroll) The answer is. . . no one. Surprisingly buses #2000- #2029 have been renumbered #910 - #939. Yes they will be hybrids. Being that there numbered in the #900 series I'm assuming they will have the same setup as the 900 series. Weird that they go with #900's versus #800's, but it's possible NF might have offered up these because they are selling more of the traditional hybrid instead of this newer one. That is incorrect. You're referring to an error in CTA's roster that has been present for over a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 That is incorrect. You're referring to an error in CTA's roster that has been present for over a year.Which gets me back to a point I made about a month ago. What constitutes the CTA roster, and how do certain people get it? I think Greenstreet is the only one who has come fairly clean regarding that. Those of us who are not on the inside don't know what to do except take certain representations on faith. Also, we see that it is subject to errors and revision, in the latter case in that certain 7500s are this month "on long term hold" rather than off the roster. Based on past posts by rmadison, the former was the more likely status (he having said that as a result of receiving 4000s, some might be temporarily taken off for repairs; of course, everything is out the window pending the inspections). BTW, I had some of sw's doubts, but decided to be a little more diplomatic about expressing them. Nonetheless, I stand by that 5750's contest is on and T8H wants photographic proof (and probably will provide it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cta_44499_FG Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Well CTA5750, I've got your answer to this one. (Drumroll) The answer is. . . no one. Surprisingly buses #2000- #2029 have been renumbered #910 - #939. Yes they will be hybrids. Being that there numbered in the #900 series I'm assuming they will have the same setup as the 900 series. Weird that they go with #900's versus #800's, but it's possible NF might have offered up these because they are selling more of the traditional hybrid instead of this newer one. Then I guess I'll be the first to ask word for word: Do you have photographic proof of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Which gets me back to a point I made about a month ago. What constitutes the CTA roster, and how do certain people get it? I think Greenstreet is the only one who has come fairly clean regarding that. Those of us who are not on the inside don't know what to do except take certain representations on faith. Also, we see that it is subject to errors and revision, in the latter case in that certain 7500s are this month "on long term hold" rather than off the roster. Based on past posts by rmadison, the former was the more likely status (he having said that as a result of receiving 4000s, some might be temporarily taken off for repairs; of course, everything is out the window pending the inspections). BTW, I had some of sw's doubts, but decided to be a little more diplomatic about expressing them. Nonetheless, I stand by that 5750's contest is on and T8H wants photographic proof (and probably will provide it). Regarding the #7500's, why do you think CTA changed the status of the dead ones? i think because they don't want to go on record as saying there retired. They have a pending lawsuit against NABI, now how would it look to say you've retired something at 6 years old without doing a major inspection (which hadn't been done last month) to justify you could in fact retire them. Legally wouldn't they have shown they've given up on a product that's supposed to at least run it's 12 years without the legal proof that they could do that. I think that's where were at now. They are trying to get an expert to say these are clearly unsafe so they can in fact retire them. That's why I'm a little suspicious of this break in the NABI's. The timing to me seems a little convenient. ( just my opinion ) If you want proof based on what was said about them last month. Kevin did not stand up and say you were wrong about them then. They were in fact retired then. Now the famous #910 - #939. If Kevin says I'm wrong on that I guess I'll have to take him at his word ( at least he did state I'm possibly making a mistake by misjudging what I'm seeing on the roster) But honestly I can't believe no one until I do see #2000 - #2029, so get your cameras ready there some proof that is needed so we can clear this up and move on. Like I always say everyone makes mistakes. :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Regarding the #7500's, why do you think CTA changed the status of the dead ones? i think because they don't want to go on record as saying there retired. They have a pending lawsuit against NABI, now how would it look to say you've retired something at 6 years old without doing a major inspection (which hadn't been done last month) to justify you could in fact retire them. Legally wouldn't they have shown they've given up on a product that's supposed to at least run it's 12 years without the legal proof that they could do that. I think that's where were at now. They are trying to get an expert to say these are clearly unsafe so they can in fact retire them. That's why I'm a little suspicious of this break in the NABI's. The timing to me seems a little convenient. ( just my opinion ) If you want proof based on what was said about them last month. Kevin did not stand up and say you were wrong about them then. They were in fact retired then. Now the famous #910 - #939. If Kevin says I'm wrong on that I guess I'll have to take him at his word ( at least he did state I'm possibly making a mistake by misjudging what I'm seeing on the roster) But honestly I can't believe no one until I do see #2000 - #2029, so get your cameras ready there some proof that is needed so we can clear this up and move on. Like I always say everyone makes mistakes. So as far as we know its up in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Regarding the #7500's, why do you think CTA changed the status of the dead ones? i think because they don't want to go on record as saying there retired. They have a pending lawsuit against NABI, now how would it look to say you've retired something at 6 years old without doing a major inspection (which hadn't been done last month) to justify you could in fact retire them. Legally wouldn't they have shown they've given up on a product that's supposed to at least run it's 12 years without the legal proof that they could do that. I think that's where were at now. They are trying to get an expert to say these are clearly unsafe so they can in fact retire them. That's why I'm a little suspicious of this break in the NABI's. The timing to me seems a little convenient. ( just my opinion ) If you want proof based on what was said about them last month. Kevin did not stand up and say you were wrong about them then. They were in fact retired then. Now the famous #910 - #939. If Kevin says I'm wrong on that I guess I'll have to take him at his word ( at least he did state I'm possibly making a mistake by misjudging what I'm seeing on the roster) But honestly I can't believe no one until I do see #2000 - #2029, so get your cameras ready there some proof that is needed so we can clear this up and move on. Like I always say everyone makes mistakes. I go with Kevin's assessment. As pointed out New Flyer and CTA are in a contract for only 20 40' hybrids: the 800s and 900s we already have. There was no indication by either party that that has changed, so I think we will still get 2000-2029 and not only up to 1999 then 910-939. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I go with Kevin's assessment. As pointed out New Flyer and CTA are in a contract for only 20 40' hybrids: the 800s and 900s we already have. There was now indication by either party that that has changed, so I think we will still get 2000-2029 and not only up to 1999 then 910-939.I guess the other thing to throw in here is that there were numerous references in this forum that CTA didn't like the 900s. But, if I were making bets, I would, as previously indicated, on diesels #970-999. Not that it means anything. We should know in a week (in fact I am somewhat surprised that there aren't any sightings reported here this week). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I see #1376 on #22 right now, #1375 on #36 and #1374 on #11. So NP must be retaining #'s lower than 1380 either temporarily(due to NABI's out of service), or permanently. How low the #'s go, I'm not sure... I've seen #1332 a few days back on #11. More low numbers: #1373, #1366, and #1370 on #151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmadisonwi Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 They will be in the 2000 range, don't worry. 2000 should be here some time this week or next. I think 4101 may be lurking around somewhere on the property, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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