6400-series Nova LFS - Updates & Retirements

[Busjack]

6 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

#6847 has found a strange and unfortunate way to retire. http://wgntv.com/2018/03/06/woman-hit-and-killed-by-cta-bus-on-south-side/

I guess your inference is based on that it was at 79th and Lafayette.

[YoungBusLover]

5 hours ago, Busjack said:

I guess your inference is based on that it was at 79th and Lafayette.

Yes indeed, It hasn't been in service for about a week now and I was shocked to see that it was the culprit of this accident. 

[mikeymc77]

At least we know it won't be scrapped.

[Busjack]

10 hours ago, mikeymc77 said:

At least we know it won't be scrapped.

Only in the sense that it may be on a litigation hold for a while. @YoungBusLover made the connections that it had been out of service, and instead of being on the northwest side, it was 1 block from the boneyard. But you won't be able to catch it at Jefferson Park.

[ChicagoNova]

Real close to where I live. I live right by 79th & Perry.

[Busjack]

29 minutes ago, ChicagoNova said:

Real close to where I live. I live right by 79th & Perry.

Then you owe us a complete inventory of all the junk

[ChicagoNova]

11 hours ago, Busjack said:

Then you owe us a complete inventory of all the junk

I'm gonna have to think about that one, counting I'm not allowed in the yard.

[BusHunter]

23 hours ago, Busjack said:

Only in the sense that it may be on a litigation hold for a while. @YoungBusLover made the connections that it had been out of service, and instead of being on the northwest side, it was 1 block from the boneyard. But you won't be able to catch it at Jefferson Park.

Well then it might as well be retired. At least it wasn't a new bus.

[qwantae]

On 2/21/2018 at 5:11 PM, BusHunter said:

Yeah but they look tired. They are 17 year old buses. That brings back flashbacks of chicago garage when they had some of the last #5300"s. No rehab was given to those either.  It's really amazing the buses are still running. Probably everything imaginal has been replaced at least once.

They could last just as long as 4400s and Old 4000s Americana when they reach about 18& half to 19 years old.  Never know.  It's odd that they did outlast Pace's Orion 6000s which they were same age.

[BusHunter]

16 minutes ago, qwantae said:

They could last just as long as 4400s and Old 4000s Americana when they reach about 18& half to 19 years old.  Never know.  It's odd that they did outlast Pace's Orion 6000s which they were same age.

CTA has the deeper pockets to keep them running. I don't get it. If they cost more than a new bus to fix why not get a new bus.

[Busjack]

13 minutes ago, qwantae said:

They could last just as long as 4400s and Old 4000s Americana when they reach about 18& half to 19 years old.  Never know.  It's odd that they did outlast Pace's Orion 6000s which they were same age.

There was a long time when just about all CTA buses lasted about 18-20 years (such as 9000 series 1976 buses until 1995).Pace had Orion Is lasting almost that long, but the only virtue Pace ever said about the Orion VIs was that they were $10,000  less each than the NABIs.

CTA bus actual service life probably also depends on how many times they got overhauls, and the recent capital plans indicate that about 400 1000s are supposed to get another round.

The unanswered question on when the last of the 6400s is to be replaced is whether that is supposed to be part of the 5 year contract for about 600 buses; we assumed that was only to replace 1000s, but with about 100 6400s because at least 100 articulateds are surplus, who knows?

[Busjack]

1 minute ago, BusHunter said:

If they cost more than a new bus to fix why not get a new bus.

We don't know that, especially since a new CTA bus is now over $500K, while a rehab is not that. Obviously, though, those not worth fixing are not fixed.

[YoungBusLover]

Does anyone know if #6712 is still WB-1? 

https://youtu.be/-G1mDxRmgjI

[Aiden Tabucic]

On 4/13/2018 at 8:54 PM, YoungBusLover said:

Does anyone know if #6712 is still WB-1? 

https://youtu.be/-G1mDxRmgjI

What do they use the work bus for?

[Aiden Tabucic]

6674’s Run Box Has 6 On It Stands For 74th Garage Good To Know it came from 74th cuz the last 2 numbers of the bus are 74 the run was (6994) Was Working Route 85 Central Yesterday 

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, Aiden Tabucic said:

6674’s Run Box Has 6 On It Stands For 74th Garage Good To Know it came from 74th cuz the last 2 numbers of the bus are 74 the run was (6994) Was Working Route 85 Central Yesterday 

Probably just a busted box. Flip dots that don't flip.

[Aiden Tabucic]

5 hours ago, Busjack said:

Probably just a busted box. Flip dots that don't flip.

True 

[Johnny 5]

Is this the end of an era for all 6400 Series from service?

[pete6125]

For about a month now FG has not used the 6400's on Sundays. Since today is a holiday they use the Sunday schedule.

[XE NewFlyer]

4 hours ago, pete6125 said:

For about a month now FG has not used the 6400's on Sundays. Since today is a holiday they use the Sunday schedule.

yesterday i caught 6837 on the 152

[Busjack]

11 minutes ago, XE NewFlyer said:

yesterday i caught 6837 on the 152

@pete6125  might have overgeneralized, but his point is well taken that one can't make assumptions based on a holiday reading when maybe 2/3 of the buses are in the yard.

@Johnny 5 : Take a reading off the archive during some recent weekday rush hour.

[Aiden Tabucic]

7 hours ago, Johnny 5 said:

Is this the end of an era for all 6400 Series from service?

They will never work on sundays cuz they will have flyers and new novas out idk why but it’s been like that for the past 2-3 months 

[BusHunter]

That's usually a sign that the buses are getting too old and putting an unnecessary burden on the operations budget. They probably don't have the buses to restrict service any further like Saturday operations. The buses are just getting too old, you can't expect them to run like new. I'll be really shocked if they make 2019. 

[sw4400]

Well #6713 was supposed to be on Addison a few days ago, but was sitting at Lake Shore marked "Delayed" and then disappeared off the tracker. The driver of the next bus #1013, said the bus broke down at Lake Shore. It was his leader bus.

[busfan2847]

Actually according to the maths22 bustracker archive no cta buses at all were out on Monday between 10am and 8pm!

At 8pm 6836 and 6849 were out.

On Sunday 5/27 6835, 6836, 6837, 6842 and 6860 were out at various times.