More Bus Moves

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

1620 1630 and 1658 have popped up at FG

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

1015 1528 and 1540 and 1617 moved back to Forest Glen after they got loaned to Kedzie

[BananaBus14]

1453, and 1977, Chicago to Kedzie (possibly a loan)

Edited February 14, 2023 by BananaBus14

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

1018 moved back to FG

[YoungBusLover]

#1327 is on the 15 as a loan. #1264 is on the 29 as well.

[YoungBusLover]

#7998 has popped up at 103rd.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1266 is also at 103rd. I rode 7998 on Monday on the 2 wow now they loaning it to 103rd. It appears almost all the 4172-4193 artics are out of service (MIA), the only two that aren’t OOS are 4180 and 4182

[Policeman]

1290 is at 103rd also

[YoungBusLover]

I would like to thank 103rd for taking the slowest nova from 77th being #7926. Please keep that bus for as long as you desire. ???? #1270 has popped up at 103rd as well.

[Shannoncvpi]

8 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

I would like to thank 103rd for taking the slowest nova from 77th being #7926. Please keep that bus for as long as you desire. ???? #1270 has popped up at 103rd as well.

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[Rhys Pate]

#7998 on the 6 tonight. Photos taken at South Hyde Park and 56th Street (Museum of Science and Industry stop).

[Rhys Pate]

Is there a reason why 4000-series bus #s 4172-4193 are out of service (except for #4180 and #4182)? That is 20 buses. No wonder 103rd has to borrow buses right now.

[Rhys Pate]

This is a list of when 4000-series buses in the #4172-4193 (except for #4180 and #4182) last ran according to the Maths 22 website:

#4172: 2/1/2023 on J14

#4173: 2/24/2023 on J14

#4174-4176: no data

#4177: 2/11/23 on 6

#4178: 2/15/2023 on J14

#4179: 2/2/2023 on 26

#4181: 1/26/2023 on J14

#4183: 12/13/2022 on J14

#4184-4185: no data

#4186: 2/19/2023 on 6

#4187: 1/23/2023 on 26

#4188: 12/19/2022 on J14

#4189: 1/3/2023 on J14

#4190: 12/8/2022 on 26

#4191: 2/15/2023 on 28

#4192: 12/7/2022 on J14

#4193: 1/17/2023 on J14

I am wondering if there are issues with these buses. If so, are these buses retired? If these buses are retired, then will 103rd get a sufficient number of option 1 8350-series buses (the next group of 8350-series buses (8450-8549)) to replace these buses?

 

 

[busfan2847]

13 hours ago, Rhys Pate said:

This is a list of when 4000-series buses in the #4172-4193 (except for #4180 and #4182) last ran according to the Maths 22 website:

#4172: 2/1/2023 on J14

#4173: 2/24/2023 on J14

#4174-4176: no data

         4174   11/17/2022

         4175   9/23/2020

         4176    4/5/2021

#4177: 2/11/23 on 6

#4178: 2/15/2023 on J14

#4179: 2/2/2023 on 26

#4181: 1/26/2023 on J14

#4183: 12/13/2022 on J14

#4184-4185: no data

        4184   11/22/2022

        4185   6/23/2021

#4186: 2/19/2023 on 6

#4187: 1/23/2023 on 26

#4188: 12/19/2022 on J14

#4189: 1/3/2023 on J14

#4190: 12/8/2022 on 26

#4191: 2/15/2023 on 28

#4192: 12/7/2022 on J14

#4193: 1/17/2023 on J14

I am wondering if there are issues with these buses. If so, are these buses retired? If these buses are retired, then will 103rd get a sufficient number of option 1 8350-series buses (the next group of 8350-series buses (8450-8549)) to replace these buses?

 

 

I have added last use dates for buses with no data currently in the bustracker archive.

[YoungBusLover]

17 hours ago, Rhys Pate said:

This is a list of when 4000-series buses in the #4172-4193 (except for #4180 and #4182) last ran according to the Maths 22 website:

#4172: 2/1/2023 on J14

#4173: 2/24/2023 on J14

#4174-4176: no data

#4177: 2/11/23 on 6

#4178: 2/15/2023 on J14

#4179: 2/2/2023 on 26

#4181: 1/26/2023 on J14

#4183: 12/13/2022 on J14

#4184-4185: no data

#4186: 2/19/2023 on 6

#4187: 1/23/2023 on 26

#4188: 12/19/2022 on J14

#4189: 1/3/2023 on J14

#4190: 12/8/2022 on 26

#4191: 2/15/2023 on 28

#4192: 12/7/2022 on J14

#4193: 1/17/2023 on J14

I am wondering if there are issues with these buses. If so, are these buses retired? If these buses are retired, then will 103rd get a sufficient number of option 1 8350-series buses (the next group of 8350-series buses (8450-8549)) to replace these buses?

 

 

I wouldn't jump the gun to quickly on retirement just yet. A lot artics are SS currently and with the next wave of #8350s coming in, a backlog of buses needing maintenance has accumulated. I remember when the first 99 out 100 for the first option was completed the SS fence wall along 79th was practically empty but now with these new deliveries the fence has filled back up into a backlog which has now spilled into the boneyard. I've seen quite a few #4000s get pushed back there near the #6000s in the past few weeks. It's kind of hard to manage space for  all these buses needing maintenance mixed in with the recent batch of #6400s that just got placed back there.

[Rhys Pate]

4 hours ago, busfan2847 said:

I have added last use dates for buses with no data currently in the bustracker archive.

Thank you. I am suspicious that these buses have been retired before the rest of the 4000-series because these buses might have issues. For the 5 buses that you added data for, was 103rd the last garage that ran those buses (4174-4176 and 4184-4185)?

[YoungBusLover]

1 minute ago, Rhys Pate said:

Thank you. I am suspicious that these buses have been retired before the rest of the 4000-series because these buses might have issues. For the 5 buses that you added data for, was 103rd the last garage that ran those buses (4174-4176 and 4184-4185)?

They were originally there but haven't been active much at all.

[Rhys Pate]

Interesting. There is a maintenance backlog due to deliveries of new buses. Also, how serious are the issues with the buses that need maintenance or repairs?

[YoungBusLover]

7 hours ago, Rhys Pate said:

Interesting. There is a maintenance backlog due to deliveries of new buses. Also, how serious are the issues with the buses that need maintenance or repairs?

I'll give some examples, cosmetic repair, suspension, engine, shocks, transmission, articulated joints, oil change. There can be a multitude of things that need to be repaired or tended to on a bus at one time, sometimes the inventory may be low as far as parts are concerned which will sideline a bus until they become available. Some maintenance repairs may take days while others takes weeks if not months depending on the state of the bus and what's considered top priority. It takes time to not only get the parts but also breakdown and then reassemble certain components of a bus. 

[Master58]

On 2/25/2023 at 7:00 PM, Rhys Pate said:

This is a list of when 4000-series buses in the #4172-4193 (except for #4180 and #4182) last ran according to the Maths 22 website:

#4172: 2/1/2023 on J14

#4173: 2/24/2023 on J14

#4174-4176: no data

#4177: 2/11/23 on 6

#4178: 2/15/2023 on J14

#4179: 2/2/2023 on 26

#4181: 1/26/2023 on J14

#4183: 12/13/2022 on J14

#4184-4185: no data

#4186: 2/19/2023 on 6

#4187: 1/23/2023 on 26

#4188: 12/19/2022 on J14

#4189: 1/3/2023 on J14

#4190: 12/8/2022 on 26

#4191: 2/15/2023 on 28

#4192: 12/7/2022 on J14

#4193: 1/17/2023 on J14

I am wondering if there are issues with these buses. If so, are these buses retired? If these buses are retired, then will 103rd get a sufficient number of option 1 8350-series buses (the next group of 8350-series buses (8450-8549)) to replace these buses?

 

 

You're missing 4194

[Shannoncvpi]

7 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

I'll give some examples, cosmetic repair, suspension, engine, shocks, transmission, articulated joints, oil change. There can be a multitude of things that need to be repaired or tended to on a bus at one time, sometimes the inventory may be low as far as parts are concerned which will sideline a bus until they become available. Some maintenance repairs may take days while others takes weeks if not months depending on the state of the bus and what's considered top priority. It takes time to not only get the parts but also breakdown and then reassemble certain components of a bus. 

Yea you are most def right cause when 4175 needed work I came over there to watch & learn to start my process of moving over to the bus shops and the vets was talking about it how they had other buses to do first before 4175 

[YoungBusLover]

4 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said:

Yea you are most def right cause when 4175 needed work I came over there to watch & learn to start my process of moving over to the bus shops and the vets was talking about it how they had other buses to do first before 4175 

Yessir, there's so much that goes into being a bus mechanic.

[Busjack]

14 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

I'll give some examples, cosmetic repair, suspension, engine, shocks, transmission, articulated joints, oil change. There can be a multitude of things that need to be repaired or tended to on a bus at one time, sometimes the inventory may be low as far as parts are concerned which will sideline a bus until they become available. Some maintenance repairs may take days while others takes weeks if not months depending on the state of the bus and what's considered top priority. It takes time to not only get the parts but also breakdown and then reassemble certain components of a bus. 

 

6 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said:

Yea you are most def right cause when 4175 needed work I came over there to watch & learn to start my process of moving over to the bus shops and the vets was talking about it how they had other buses to do first before 4175 

Thanks for the explanation. I was going to speculate about what was happening, especially with the stimulus buses (4150-4207), but having blown it on the NABIs, decided not to.

[YoungBusLover]

9 minutes ago, Busjack said:

 

Thanks for the explanation. I was going to speculate about what was happening, especially with the stimulus buses (4150-4207), but having blown it on the NABIs, decided not to.

No problem, the #4000s are in a odd position right now especially since the #4300s are going to be rehabbed. It makes me wonder how many CTA really would keep around for the foreseeable future. Outside of the major summer events this year with LALA,NASCAR and Taste of Chicago the current amount of artics running wouldn't be able to handle the increased capacity for those events. I hope that the at least 80 out 107 of the artics are running by then because the lower #1000s are running on pins and needle at this point doing the heavy duty work of what use to be ran solely by artics. NP runs the most aartics out of any artic based garage and the non hybrid #4300s have barely shown signs of wear and tear compared to the #4000s and hybrid #4300s.

[Shannoncvpi]

54 minutes ago, Busjack said:

 

Thanks for the explanation. I was going to speculate about what was happening, especially with the stimulus buses (4150-4207), but having blown it on the NABIs, decided not to.

Yea they are trying to adviod that issue again