Busjack Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 6441. visual sighting on 423. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Boy are they trickling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Trickling being the key word. What do they have on the assembly line, one guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Trickling being the key word. What do they have on the assembly line, one guy?This isn't New Flyer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Not all 6000's are being retired 1:1. Some of them were repowered in the last few years, and are still maintained to the point of functionality (that last point is subjective).Apparently the 6000's are fading faster than it is to replace them, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 And, to fill in a hole, virtual 6440. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Acceptance Center is FULL of 6400's - I would say at least two dozen, maybe more. Seen up to 6468. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Acceptance Center is FULL of 6400's - I would say at least two dozen, maybe more. Seen up to 6468.That's good to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Acceptance Center is FULL of 6400's - I would say at least two dozen, maybe more. Seen up to 6468.They must have done some hiring on the assembly line in Riverside,CA!! Could this be a signal that delivery is going to skyrocket for new Pace Axess'? They've only really built over 100 so far and they have options for up to 416. Going at the former rate that would take about 8 years to deliver and it was my understanding the options stretch over 4-5 years. Plus they have the CNG's on tap and possible new Pulse buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 15500 at Taft also (CNG). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 They must have done some hiring on the assembly line in Riverside,CA!! Could this be a signal that delivery is going to skyrocket for new Pace Axess'? They've only really built over 100 so far and they have options for up to 416. Going at the former rate that would take about 8 years to deliver and it was my understanding the options stretch over 4-5 years. Plus they have the CNG's on tap and possible new Pulse buses. Limit on options is 5 years (presumably based on contract award date to notice to proceed on each option). One also has to consider that if a delivery year starts around November, Nov. 2013 resulted in only 8 buses (6392-99).The 5 year limit may explain why NABI said Pace had options for up to about 340 buses, but when it went bankrupt said that there weren't any outstanding options--maybe 100 expired, or maybe NABI couldn't count.It seems like logjams have broken both in Plattsburgh and Riverside, as a couple of weeks ago people were wondering here about both..And see below...15500 at Taft also (CNG).Pace paid for it, so it should be somewhere on its property. The real questions are how the construction project to convert the South division garage to CNG is going, and when Axess production will be converted so they start delivering the other 90 CNGs starting by the end of 2015 (extrapolating the start date in the solicitation of June 2014 and the announcement of the contract about 18 months late). Finally, while it appears that Pulse buses will be diesels, I don't assume 416 diesels and 250 CNGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Hopefully Pace doesn't have the same problem as Transpo's CNG buses of South Bend, Indiana has. They have received CNG buses close to a year ago but they didn't have a CNG facility built yet!!http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/transpos-cng-buses-to-benefit-city-of-south-bend-community/30261432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Hopefully Pace doesn't have the same problem as Transpo's CNG buses of South Bend, Indiana has. They have received CNG buses close to a year ago but they didn't have a CNG facility built yet!!http://www.wsbt.com/news/local/transpos-cng-buses-to-benefit-city-of-south-bend-community/30261432Obviously that's why 15500 is sitting in the yard, but ever since when the NABI and a gas supplier approached the Pace board and the announcement of the state grant for the buses and the Pace bond issue to convert the garage to CNG, Pace has been contemplating the need for both. An 11 month delay in South Bend seems unreasonable, and does not reflect that level of planning.The more interesting point in that article is that the Transpo fueling station is going to be used by other government entities, a point MotorWeek makes in its Clean Cities reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 6444 on 270 Sun 8/30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 6447 on Dempster last night (physical sighting) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesi2282 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 6481 is showing up on #626, that's a huge leap... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 6481 is showing up on #626, that's a huge leap...The big question is whether or not that is a Suburban model or not. That one is a shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesi2282 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 6482 is showing up on #213... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnlight Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I saw 6377 on the 626. Is Northshore getting these buses now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 The big question is whether or not that is a Suburban model or not. That one is a shocker. 6482 is showing up on #213...Well. you guys made me do it:I saw 6482 on Webwatch in Highland Park, and figured I could intercept it in Winnetka. Took to Emerson St. in Evanston, though.Anyway, it is a regular transit with a back door.I saw 6377 on the 626. Is Northshore getting these buses now?Three week old news. I had seen it on 620 (personally) a week ago. That (and 6378, after Heritage got 9 new MCIs) was apparently sent there to get the 618 going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 So where are 6448 - 6480? Has Pace stopped putting them out in numerical sequence? While NW seems to be adding new buses, the old ones aren't going away so fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted September 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Could it be that some of the missing buses may be slated for Pulse service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) So where are 6448 - 6480? Has Pace stopped putting them out in numerical sequence? While NW seems to be adding new buses, the old ones aren't going away so fast. I have a feeling that the situation is similar to in 2007 when a whole mess of buses (such as Niles 2640-2649) didn't show up and it turned out that resources were being used to get 2667-2694 to Naperville in time to convert it from school buses. From what Andre posted, the buses are at South Holland, but there must have been some urgent reason to start North Shore's allotment.Could it be that some of the missing buses may be slated for Pulse service? Pulse service isn't scheduled until 2017. Maybe it does indicate that NW eventually gets up to 6480. Edited September 15, 2015 by Busjack reinterpreted question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 6450-76 are MIA as of now, if not at S Holland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 6450-76 are MIA as of now, if not at S Holland.Any indication of essentially 6448, 6449, 6477-6480, not posted here yet?On trying to track down 6481-6482, one dependable place appears to be route 422 leaving Linden at 3:00 p.m and Northbrook Court at 4:30. I feel kind of stupid chasing 6482 to Evanston on Monday, when it passed me on my normal rounds Tuesday. I don't know if the trip 3 hours later also works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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