andrethebusman Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 I probably did. CTA's numbering scheme was a convoluted mess in a lot of ways 40 plus years ago. I just have a memory of looking at a map after the 36A business and seeing 34 with more branches than what's currently 119 aend the leg to the Algeld, and those branches covering what's now part of 115 north of 115th but used to be the former 104 on its local section. At any rate, the rest still fleshes a bit more what 104 was in response to MrCTA85's question.This gets a bit complicated, but this is what happened since 1969 when the Ryan opened:#104-PULLMAN/ALTGELD - route historySu 09-28-69 Began #4A-PULLMAN bus service from 95th/Dan Ryan station terminal via 95th-Cottage Grove to Cottage Grove-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop (replacing #4-COTTAGE GROVE service)(Beverly garage)Su 09-14-70 Extended some Mon-Fri daytime service via Cottage Grove-115th-Calumet Xway-130th to 130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis loop, returning via Calumet Xway-115th-St Lawrence-111th-Cottage GroveMo 01-27-75 Rerouted buses to Eberhart/131st via Cottage Grove-111th-Calumet XwaySu 02-15-76 Redesignated #104-PULLMANMo 09-09-85 Discontinued midday service to Eberhart/131stSu 06-26-88 Cut service to Mon-Fri rush only, 95th/Dan Ryan to Eberhart/131st only, replaced by #111-PULLMAN/111TH/115TH except weekday rush, redesignated #104-PULLMAN/ALTGELD, transfered work Beverly garage to 103rd garageFr 10-03-97 Discontinued service#34 - SOUTH MICHIGAN - route historySu 09-28-69 Began #34-SOUTH MICHIGAN bus service from 95th/Dan Ryan terminal via 95th-Michigan-119th to Peoria-120th-Morgan-119th loop all times, also via 95th-Michigan-127th-Indiana-130th-Indiana to Leyden-138th-Indiana loop day & evenings (Beverly garage)Su 09-13-70 Extended Mon-Fri daytime buses via 119th to Peoria-120th-Ashland-119th loopSu 08-16-81 Began late evening, owl, Sat-Sun shuttle service from 115th-St Lawrence-111th-Calumet Expwy loop via Calumet Expwy-130th to 130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis loop, Sunday daytime via 131st-Langley-133rd Place-133rd-Ellis, replacing PACE route #356 serviceSa 11-28-81 Discontinued Saturday daytime shuttle service, replaced by increased PACE #356 serviceSu 01-03-82 Rerouted some owl, Mon-Fri late evening, Sat evening, and Sunday day & eve buses via Indiana-130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis to 130th "U", replacing shuttles.Su 07-04-82 Extended Mon-Sat evening, Sunday day & early evening buses to 119th/AshlandSu 04-01-84 Rerouted Sunday daytime Altdeld Gardens buses southbound via Eberhart- 131st-Langley-133rd Pl-133rd-Ellis to 130thSu 07-01-84 Rerouted all Altgeld Gardens buses via 130th-Eberhart-131st-Langley- 133rd Pl-133rd-Ellis to 130th "U" in both directionsSu 09-08-85 Rerouted all buses to Ellis/130th, replacing PACE #356. Replaced service on 119th by #119-MICHIGAN/119th, to Leyden/138th by PACE #353Su 06-26-88 Transfered work Beverly garage to 103rd garageTu 02-28-95 Rerouted buses via Ellis to Ellis-130th-Evans-131st loopSu 08-27-06 Rerouted buses SB via Indiana-130th-Ellis-133rdSu 11-20-06 Rerouted buses SB via 130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis#111-PULLMAN/111th/115th - route history (later #111-111th/KING DR)Su 06-26-88 Began service from 95th/Dan Ryan station terminal via 95th-Cottage Grove-115th- Vincennes-111th to Ellis-112th-Corliss-111th loop, returning via 111th-Vincennes- 115th-St Lawrence-111th-Cottage Grove-95th. Owl and Sunday late evening buses via Cottage Grove to Cottage Grove-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop. (Replaces 104-PULLMAN and #111-111TH/115TH services) (103rd Garage) Sa 02-01-92 Discontinued owl serviceSu 06-25-00 Rerouted northbound buses via 115th-King Dr-111th-Cottage GroveSu 12-16-12 Rerouted via 95th-King Dr-111th-Vincennes-115th to Marshfield-119th-Ashland loop, redesignated 111-111th/KING DR #115-PULLMAN/115thSu 12-16-12 Began service day & evenings from 95th/Ryan station terminal via 95th-Cottage Grove-115th to Marshfield-119th-Ashland loop, northbound via 115th-King Dr-111th-Cottage Grove#119 - MICHIGAN/119TH - route historySu 09-08-85 Began #119-MICHIGAN/119TH bus service from 95th/Dan Ryan station terminal via 95th-Michigan-119th to Peoria-120th-Morgan-119th loop, extended Mon-Sat day & evenings, Sunday day & early eveings via 119th to Peoria-120th-Ashland-119th loop (Beverly garage)Su 06-26-88 Rerouted and extended Mon-Sat day & evening, Sunday day & early evening buses via 119th to Western terminal, transfered work Beverly garage to 103rd garageSa 04-25-98 Discontinued owl service#111-111th/115th - route historySu 09-23-45 Began CSL #111-111TH bus service, replacing #111-111TH streetcar service, from Ashland-Chelsea-Vincennes-111th loop via 111th to 111th-Champlain-112th-St Lawrence loop (77th garage)We 10-01-47 Route passes to CHICAGO TRANSIT AUTHORITYSu 12-04-49 Transfered work from 77th garage to Beverly garageMo 05-06-57 Extended some Mon-Fri rush buses via 111th-Vincennes-Monterey-111th to Harding terminalFr 06-21-57 Discontinued service to 111th/HardingSu 06-16-63 Redesignated #111-111TH/115TH, extended Mon-Sat via 111th-Cottage Grove southbound/St Lawrence northbound-115th-Vincennes to 111th-Ashland-Chelsea-Vincennes loop. Rerouted Sundays via 111th to Cottage Grove-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop. Some Mon-Fri rush buses routed via Vincennes-119th-Ashland-115th-St Lawrence-111th. (replacing #115-115TH and #119-VINCENNES/119TH routes)Mo 02-10-64 Rerouted some Mon-Fri AM rush buses via 111th-Cottage Grove-115th-Ashland- 119th-VincennesSu 04-11-65 Extended Sunday daytime buses around loopTu 01-07-69 Rerouted Mon-Fri AM rush 119th trips via 115th-Marshfield-119thFr 09-11-70 Discontinued Mon-Fri rush service via 119thSu 09-13-81 Discontinued service via Vincennes-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop Mon-Sat late evenings, began service via 111th-Cottage Grove-115th-Vincennes loop Sunday early evening, discontinued service weestbound on 111th Sunday early evening, discontinued all service Sunday late eveningSu 04-25-82 Rerouted buses via 111th-Corliss-114th-Doty West-115thSa 06-25-88 Discontinued service, replaced by #111-PULLMAN/111TH/115TH service 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 #6818 has found it's way to fg. It's on the #76.#6840 has joined it on the #81 and #6842 is on the #56. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 This gets a bit complicated, but this is what happened since 1969 when the Ryan opened:#104-PULLMAN/ALTGELD - route historySu 09-28-69 Began #4A-PULLMAN bus service from 95th/Dan Ryan station terminal via 95th-Cottage Grove to Cottage Grove-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop (replacing #4-COTTAGE GROVE service)(Beverly garage)Su 09-14-70 Extended some Mon-Fri daytime service via Cottage Grove-115th-Calumet Xway-130th to 130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis loop, returning via Calumet Xway-115th-St Lawrence-111th-Cottage GroveMo 01-27-75 Rerouted buses to Eberhart/131st via Cottage Grove-111th-Calumet XwaySu 02-15-76 Redesignated #104-PULLMANMo 09-09-85 Discontinued midday service to Eberhart/131stSu 06-26-88 Cut service to Mon-Fri rush only, 95th/Dan Ryan to Eberhart/131st only, replaced by #111-PULLMAN/111TH/115TH except weekday rush, redesignated #104-PULLMAN/ALTGELD, transfered work Beverly garage to 103rd garageFr 10-03-97 Discontinued service#34 - SOUTH MICHIGAN - route historySu 09-28-69 Began #34-SOUTH MICHIGAN bus service from 95th/Dan Ryan terminal via 95th-Michigan-119th to Peoria-120th-Morgan-119th loop all times, also via 95th-Michigan-127th-Indiana-130th-Indiana to Leyden-138th-Indiana loop day & evenings (Beverly garage)Su 09-13-70 Extended Mon-Fri daytime buses via 119th to Peoria-120th-Ashland-119th loopSu 08-16-81 Began late evening, owl, Sat-Sun shuttle service from 115th-St Lawrence-111th-Calumet Expwy loop via Calumet Expwy-130th to 130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis loop, Sunday daytime via 131st-Langley-133rd Place-133rd-Ellis, replacing PACE route #356 serviceSa 11-28-81 Discontinued Saturday daytime shuttle service, replaced by increased PACE #356 serviceSu 01-03-82 Rerouted some owl, Mon-Fri late evening, Sat evening, and Sunday day & eve buses via Indiana-130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis to 130th "U", replacing shuttles.Su 07-04-82 Extended Mon-Sat evening, Sunday day & early evening buses to 119th/AshlandSu 04-01-84 Rerouted Sunday daytime Altdeld Gardens buses southbound via Eberhart- 131st-Langley-133rd Pl-133rd-Ellis to 130thSu 07-01-84 Rerouted all Altgeld Gardens buses via 130th-Eberhart-131st-Langley- 133rd Pl-133rd-Ellis to 130th "U" in both directionsSu 09-08-85 Rerouted all buses to Ellis/130th, replacing PACE #356. Replaced service on 119th by #119-MICHIGAN/119th, to Leyden/138th by PACE #353Su 06-26-88 Transfered work Beverly garage to 103rd garageTu 02-28-95 Rerouted buses via Ellis to Ellis-130th-Evans-131st loopSu 08-27-06 Rerouted buses SB via Indiana-130th-Ellis-133rdSu 11-20-06 Rerouted buses SB via 130th-Eberhart-131st-Ellis#111-PULLMAN/111th/115th - route history (later #111-111th/KING DR)Su 06-26-88 Began service from 95th/Dan Ryan station terminal via 95th-Cottage Grove-115th- Vincennes-111th to Ellis-112th-Corliss-111th loop, returning via 111th-Vincennes- 115th-St Lawrence-111th-Cottage Grove-95th. Owl and Sunday late evening buses via Cottage Grove to Cottage Grove-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop. (Replaces 104-PULLMAN and #111-111TH/115TH services) (103rd Garage) Sa 02-01-92 Discontinued owl serviceSu 06-25-00 Rerouted northbound buses via 115th-King Dr-111th-Cottage GroveSu 12-16-12 Rerouted via 95th-King Dr-111th-Vincennes-115th to Marshfield-119th-Ashland loop, redesignated 111-111th/KING DR #115-PULLMAN/115thSu 12-16-12 Began service day & evenings from 95th/Ryan station terminal via 95th-Cottage Grove-115th to Marshfield-119th-Ashland loop, northbound via 115th-King Dr-111th-Cottage Grove#119 - MICHIGAN/119TH - route historySu 09-08-85 Began #119-MICHIGAN/119TH bus service from 95th/Dan Ryan station terminal via 95th-Michigan-119th to Peoria-120th-Morgan-119th loop, extended Mon-Sat day & evenings, Sunday day & early eveings via 119th to Peoria-120th-Ashland-119th loop (Beverly garage)Su 06-26-88 Rerouted and extended Mon-Sat day & evening, Sunday day & early evening buses via 119th to Western terminal, transfered work Beverly garage to 103rd garageSa 04-25-98 Discontinued owl service#111-111th/115th - route historySu 09-23-45 Began CSL #111-111TH bus service, replacing #111-111TH streetcar service, from Ashland-Chelsea-Vincennes-111th loop via 111th to 111th-Champlain-112th-St Lawrence loop (77th garage)We 10-01-47 Route passes to CHICAGO TRANSIT AUTHORITYSu 12-04-49 Transfered work from 77th garage to Beverly garageMo 05-06-57 Extended some Mon-Fri rush buses via 111th-Vincennes-Monterey-111th to Harding terminalFr 06-21-57 Discontinued service to 111th/HardingSu 06-16-63 Redesignated #111-111TH/115TH, extended Mon-Sat via 111th-Cottage Grove southbound/St Lawrence northbound-115th-Vincennes to 111th-Ashland-Chelsea-Vincennes loop. Rerouted Sundays via 111th to Cottage Grove-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop. Some Mon-Fri rush buses routed via Vincennes-119th-Ashland-115th-St Lawrence-111th. (replacing #115-115TH and #119-VINCENNES/119TH routes)Mo 02-10-64 Rerouted some Mon-Fri AM rush buses via 111th-Cottage Grove-115th-Ashland- 119th-VincennesSu 04-11-65 Extended Sunday daytime buses around loopTu 01-07-69 Rerouted Mon-Fri AM rush 119th trips via 115th-Marshfield-119thFr 09-11-70 Discontinued Mon-Fri rush service via 119thSu 09-13-81 Discontinued service via Vincennes-115th-St Lawrence-111th loop Mon-Sat late evenings, began service via 111th-Cottage Grove-115th-Vincennes loop Sunday early evening, discontinued service weestbound on 111th Sunday early evening, discontinued all service Sunday late eveningSu 04-25-82 Rerouted buses via 111th-Corliss-114th-Doty West-115thSa 06-25-88 Discontinued service, replaced by #111-PULLMAN/111TH/115TH service I knew there was a reason I remembered the 34 also having been routed on the expressway during the early '80s like the former 104 was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 #6828 is on the #205, #6880 is on the #88 and #6841 is on the #84. Most likely #6876 came north also so that leaves 24 old novas at 74th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I knew there was a reason I remembered the 34 also having been routed on the expressway during the early '80s like the former 104 was.For a while, there were also a few PM school trippers from Carver that ran via 130th-Calumet Xway-115th-Michigan to 95th. Seems like Carver used to have a whole lot more service than it has now. Has that school shrunk dramatically or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 For a while, there were also a few PM school trippers from Carver that ran via 130th-Calumet Xway-115th-Michigan to 95th. Seems like Carver used to have a whole lot more service than it has now. Has that school shrunk dramatically or what?The Derrion Albert killing was supposedly precipitated by a feud between Fenger students from that neighborhood and those from Altgeld Gardens. Looks like Carver is now just a military academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Ok i updated the roster with Andre's info. Some of it I didn't change because there are a few differences. I left #6515, #6523, #6525 at fg because I have seen those in service. I don't know what to say about the #1300's to 74th. They didn't all go as i saw #1357 and #1359 myself on the #82 yesterday and Sunday. So I kind of shyed away from moving that entire block. I did move #1351 though. Something tells me 74th's got it. I didn't transfer #6860 either because it seems to be missing and most likely the one at 74th that's dead. Some things I transfered like #1024 and #1055 to Chicago and a few #1070's, we'll see if they do show up at chicago. #1058-59 I moved but probably needs a confirmation. So that's it, the rest looks pretty correct and I'm comfortable with it being right.I just checked #1361 and #1362 are kedzie buses #1355 is 74th, but alot them are not in service now i really need a rush hour to flush them out. Edited June 23, 2015 by BusHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Bus Assignment 622-15.xlsxFor better or worse, this is the official list as of this last weekend (6/15) Edited June 23, 2015 by andrethebusman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Bus Assignment 622-15.xlsxFor better or worse, this is the official list as of this last weekend (6/15)what opens this type of file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 what opens this type of file. It's a Microsoft Excel document, so if you have Excel on your computer you should be able to open it. I have Excel, and was able to view the document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 It's a Microsoft Excel document, so if you have Excel on your computer you should be able to open it. I have Excel, and was able to view the document.I don't think I have excel. Notepad doesn't open it and that opens everything. Wordpad and adobe reader doesn't open it. maybe i need to convert it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I don't think I have excel. Notepad doesn't open it and that opens everything. Wordpad and adobe reader doesn't open it. maybe i need to convert it.You would need to have a program that does spreadsheets. Otherwise, the file may not open correctly when you convert it. You might be able to get a free starter version of Excel off of Microsoft, but it'll have ads on the side(mine does). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) You would need to have a program that does spreadsheets. Otherwise, the file may not open correctly when you convert it. You might be able to get a free starter version of Excel off of Microsoft, but it'll have ads on the side(mine does).It also appears that you need a version of Excel from Office 2007 or later, since this file is in the compressed XML format. Since it said it went through the XML converter, I thought Word would open it, but it will not. Only Excel 2007 did.Assuming that andre was authorized to publish it here, I converted it to pdf. Bus Assignment 622-15.pdfAlso a Microsoft HTML file, although it looks like you need Internet Explorer to use it: Bus Assignment 622-15.mht Edited June 24, 2015 by Busjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I downloaded an xlsx viewer, but i hate downloading unknown exe. files. They are always loaded with spyware, malware and viruses. And the viruses are getting good, Malwarebytes doesn't even remove it sometimes. Sometimes you have to run like 2 or 3 cleaners, (adware cleaner is pretty good) and clear your cache on all your browsers. (if you have a browser hijacker)The PDF looks good Busjack, I surely downloaded it and it appears better than the other one even with the xlsx viewer. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Since Andre mentioned the retiree's are parked on the elston fence at fg, i think i remember #6861 parked on the elston fence on Sunday. I haven't seen it since then and i wonder could it have joined them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Are the baby buses (500's) still at South Shops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Are the baby buses (500's) still at South Shops?I don't know the answer, but given that there were contracts to sell most of them to downstate transit agencies, they should have picked them up. http://www.transitchicago.com/search/link.aspx?id=8608940&q=http%3A//www.transitchicago.com/asset.aspx%3FAssetId%3D9506&i=4&mlt=0 See also http://chitransit.org/topic/3417-500s-all-out-of-service/?do=findComment&comment=68421 Edited June 24, 2015 by Busjack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 There's one in the Garmon #6450 picture at south shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Well 1306 and 1307 made their way to Kedzie from 74th actually. 1306 is on the #10 right now and 1307 I physically spotted passing Ashland this morning doing a deadhead back to the garage along Roosevelt. 1541 is now on the 18 after having been at 77th. Edited June 24, 2015 by jajuan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Someone might want to double check if 4 800s are really out of service because 804 is listed as one of those OOS, but it's currently in service at this moment on the #12 at this very moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Someone might want to double check if 4 800s are really out of service because 804 is listed as one of those OOS, but it's currently in service at this moment on the #12 at this very moment.Andre's list only had 801 OOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Andre's list only had 801 OOS.I noticed. Bushunter and sw had 800, 801, 804 and 809 OOS. I'm guessing those two took the other three spotted at South Shops a few months ago as meaning they were OOS long term instead of the apparent simply down for repairs and thus forgetting South Shops also handles heavy maintenance and not just retirements or storage in the case of buses not officially retired but still kept out of service longer term than repair issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) I noticed. Bushunter and sw had 800, 801, 804 and 809 OOS. I'm guessing those two took the other three spotted at South Shops a few months ago as meaning they were OOS long term instead of the apparent simply down for repairs and thus forgetting South Shops also handles heavy maintenance and not just retirements or storage in the case of buses not officially retired but still kept out of service longer term than repair issues.I caught 800 on the 157 last Thursday so that one is definitely back in service and 804 is on the 12 this evening according to Busfinder. Edited June 25, 2015 by busfan2847 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I caught 800 on the 157 last Thursday so that one is definitely back in service and 804 is on the 12 this evening according to Busfinder.The #1000 rehab contract said they were supposed to get LED interior lights, notice anything different about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Are the baby buses (500's) still at South Shops?It's about 15-20 left at the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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