jtrosario Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 From www.rideschedules.com citing CTA as source: (modified to show in order of time starting at 4:00am) R22 Cermak-Roosevelt Express - CTA Weekday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 9 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 12:00am every 15 minutes 12:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Weekday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 9 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 10 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 9 minutes 7:00pm to 12:00am every 15 minutes 12:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Saturday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 12 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 8 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 5 minutes 6:00pm to 10:00pm every 8 minutes 10:00pm to 12:00am every 15 minutes 12:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Saturday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 10 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 8 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 7 minutes 7:00pm to 10:00pm every 8 minutes 10:00pm to 12:00am every 15 minutes 12:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Sunday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 9 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 12:00am every 12 minutes 12:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Sunday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 9 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 9 minutes 7:00pm to 12:00am every 12 minutes 12:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes R55 Dan Ryan Owl Shuttle - CTA Weekday - North 1:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Weekday - South 1:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Saturday - North 1:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Saturday - South 1:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Sunday - North 1:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes Sunday - South 1:00am to 4:00am every 15 minutes R63 Dan Ryan Local Shuttle - CTA Weekday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 9 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 15 minutes Weekday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 9 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 10 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 10 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 15 minutes Saturday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 20 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 6:00pm every 10 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Saturday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 20 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 7:00pm every 10 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Sunday - North 4:00am to 9:00am every 20 minutes 9:00am to 10:00pm every 10 minutes 10:00pm to 1:00am every 20 minutes Sunday - South 4:00am to 9:00am every 20 minutes 9:00am to 10:00pm every 10 minutes 10:00pm to 1:00am every 20 minutes R69 69th-Garfield Express - CTA Weekday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 9 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Weekday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 9 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 10 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 6 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Saturday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 12 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 10 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Saturday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 12 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 10 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Sunday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 12 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 12 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 10 minutes Sunday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 12 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 12 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 15 minutes R79 79th-Garfield Express - CTA Weekday - North 4:00am to 6:00am every 15 minutes 6:00am to 9:00am every 6 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Weekday - South 4:00am to 6:00am every 15 minutes 6:00am to 9:00am every 6 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 8:00pm every 6 minutes 8:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Saturday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 10 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 8 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Saturday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 10 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 10 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 8 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Sunday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 12 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 7:00pm every 10 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Sunday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 12 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 10 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 10 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes R87 87th-Garfield Express - CTA Weekday - North 4:00am to 6:00am every 15 minutes 6:00am to 9:00am every 8 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Weekday - South 4:00am to 6:00am every 15 minutes 6:00am to 9:00am every 8 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 10 minutes 3:00pm to 7:00pm every 6 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Saturday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 12 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 10 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Saturday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 12 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 10 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Sunday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 12 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 12 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 15 minutes Sunday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 15 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 12 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 12 minutes 7:00pm to 1:00am every 15 minutes R95 95th-Garfield Express - CTA Weekday - North 4:00am to 5:00am every 12 minutes 5:00am to 9:00am every 4 minutes 9:00am to 3:00pm every 7 minutes 3:00pm to 6:00pm every 8 minutes 6:00pm to 1:00am every 10 minutes Weekday - South 4:00am to 5:00am every 12 minutes 5:00am to 9:00am every 6 minutes 9:00am to 4:00pm every 7 minutes 4:00pm to 7:00pm every 6 minutes 7:00pm to 10:00pm every 8 minutes 10:00pm to 1:00am every 10 minutes Saturday - North 4:00am to 6:00am every 15 minutes 6:00am to 9:00am every 10 minutes 9:00am to 6:00pm every 8 minutes 6:00pm to 10:00pm every 8 minutes 10:00pm to 1:00am every 10 minutes Saturday - South 4:00am to 6:00am every 15 minutes 6:00am to 9:00am every 10 minutes 9:00am to 7:00pm every 8 minutes 7:00pm to 10:00pm every 8 minutes 10:00pm to 1:00am every 10 minutes Sunday - North 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 12 minutes 9:00am to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 10:00pm every 10 minutes 10:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes Sunday - South 4:00am to 7:00am every 15 minutes 7:00am to 9:00am every 12 minutes 9:00am to 6:00pm every 9 minutes 6:00pm to 10:00pm every 10 minutes 10:00pm to 1:00am every 12 minutes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Excellent. This is what I meant CTA should have given at minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted May 20, 2013 Report Share Posted May 20, 2013 Just rode R95 from 95th/Ryan to Garfield Green/Red station on bus 4309 (I think). Since I boarded after 9:15pm on a Sunday night the trip took about 15 minutes (if not less). The bus smelled new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Why won't CTA just publish schedules to attract more riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 15, 2013 Report Share Posted June 15, 2013 Why won't CTA just publish schedules to attract more riders Probably why not as many people are boarding the shuttles as much as CTA head honchos were hoping and are instead crowding the 3,4 and 29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Exactly, but they should have promoted those shuttes a little bit more aggressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Tea Eh Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Given that very few people read the schedules anyway, particularly on routes with frequent service, I'm not sure what publishing individual schedules would do. Particularly since it's a "you get there when you get there" deal anyway.I honestly don't know how much more "aggressively" CTA is supposed to promote the bus shuttle replacements. There's plenty of info out there on the shuttles, and it's been out for months. The shuttles appear in the drop-down menu when you go to the schedule page, on top of all of the other Red Line construction information that makes very prominent mention of the shuttle service.I mean, you have to try pretty hard not to be aware of them. If shuttle ridership isn't as high as originally thought, it's probably because folks think "If I have to take a bus to the train anyway, I might as well take one that's more convenient to where I'm coming from." Just as how there aren't really that many people that live along the south end of the Red Line, lots of people get to the Red Line by bus and transfer. Now, they just decide to take a different bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkohut Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 As much as i have been critcal of the Cta .They did put the word out on the shuffles.It will be interesting to see what route gain the most riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 Yes they promoted the shuttles but they really didn't give a clear idea of how often a shuttle would be arriving or departing within the given service times which is my point of what some folks are looking for in terms of schedule. As I said before I'm not saying there needs to be a published blow by blow of each trip. Just give some generic idea of what general wait times could be expected in the ideal. Folks still want to know that they'll make it to work or other important destinations on time. Not being able to track any of the shuttles on BusTracker also works against them from that standpoint of wanting and needing to arrive to work on time. And the local news media didn't exactly help alleviate that concern either by leaving the impression that the Red Line is completely shutdown south of Roosevelt as opposed to the reality that it's REROUTED south of that station. Hence another reason why people are bypassing the shuttles and crowding onto the 3,4 and 29 the WHOLE way into downtown and not to transfer to a train into downtown. Just about all of my south side coworkers believe there is no Red Line at all on the south side or aren't clear they go to the Green Line tracks north of 63rd for the Red Line because they got their info of the project from the news the final weeks and days before the project and rather than the CTA website as many of us have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 ...And the local news media didn't exactly help alleviate that concern either by leaving the impression that the Red Line is completely shutdown south of Roosevelt as opposed to the reality that it's REROUTED south of that station..... As an example, a couple of days in, Les Grobstein said that the Red Line wasn't going to The Cell, and you had to transfer to the Green Line. No, if you are a north sider; the Red Line stops at Bronzeville, and you walk a couple of more blocks. Remember the previous discussion about Sox service, and at least CTA is consistent that the Red Line is the train, not necessarily certain stations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See Tea Eh Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 All the CTA information is out there. If the news reporters want to muck it up (like they often do, on any story, on any subject), not much you can do about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 All the CTA information is out there. If the news reporters want to muck it up (like they often do, on any story, on any subject), not much you can do about that. We can debate this back and forth till there's a 50 foot hole in the ground, but maybe just maybe the lesson here is where and how people get their information. We can all agree that CTA did actually do a very good job in getting the information out on its website quite extensively almost a year ahead of time. But if the media can muck up the information so easily in such a short time after so many months of getting info out in the usual sources, maybe it's time to start thinking outside the box of how and where to spread the word and not just rely on 'well it's been on our website for months.' The general public has an unfortunate knack for procrastinating on when to be aware and focusing on important changes until it's right on top of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted June 16, 2013 Report Share Posted June 16, 2013 The CTA uses the press and media to get the word out. That is why they have Press Releases. The media just repeats the release by rephrasing a sentence or two. From day one, the CTA called it a Shutdown, not a Reroute. Yes they said from day one that the Red Line would be rerouted to the Green Line tracks, but they emphasized a 5 month shutdown. Except for John H at the Trib and Tracy Schwartz at Red Eye, there aren't any real transit reporters who knows transit. Tracy is new herself having replaced Kyla Kyles as the transit reporter. Besides that, plenty of people KNEW about the reroute as complaints surfaced about gang territories, etc, longer commutes, so it was well publicized. I think the shuttles were publicized along with the north south alternatives to reach the Red and.Green Lines or the Express buses. I don't know if Metra got any increased ridership. I do think the media hypes up some stuff and causes people to overreact. New York reroutes trains all the time without any panic from the public. Granted their system is more extensive, but our Red Line reroute works well. Consider 43 years ago, there was no Raul service south of 63rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nflyer22 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Similar to what I said a year ago, the CTA has aggressively gotten the word out at the southern portions of the Red Line regarding the Reconstruction Project, but it's unfortunately as I predicted that regular riders here in Chinatown are having trouble figuring efficient route planning. They have taken advantage of adjacent routes that run around the neighborhood, such as the 24 and 62, but some also do not know that the CTA has provided the free shuttle R22 as a replacement for the missing Red Line service, and this is despite the CTA passing out the same brochures everyone has seen except in Chinese. At least there were some DePaul students who tried to better spread the message before the project began. (I saw them in the stationhouse talking to random passersby about the then upcoming work to be done.) The many times that I rode the southbound R22, it takes off from its designated stop north of State and Roosevelt, but hits the red light at that intersection, right next to the bus shelter for the southbound 62. Many riders headed to Chinatown then notice the signage on the stopped R22 as "TO CERMAK-CHINA STA" and realize it's headed for Chinatown, yet all the drivers I have seen do not allow them to board, insisting that it is policy for riders to board at the designated stop, nowhere else. It's always sad to see riders get turned away from a free shuttle that is stuck at the red light by drivers following what I feel is a bad policy. I'm sure if the CTA had people available to translate the brochures into Chinese, they could've gotten a couple ambassadors out to talk to riders at the Cermak stop before it all began, but I didn't see any the times I rode, only the occasional DePaul students. At least we are one month in; only four more months to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 That's why everyone is riding the #29, (#62 is even smarter) why ride a bus and a train when you only need to ride one bus and walk a block or two. I haven't had a chance to see if the #62 has crowding issues there. Actually riding the buses may be smarter if traveling a short distance. I bet no one thinks to ride the #24 to the Cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I just believe the CTA could have promoted this 5 Month Service Changes a lot better. I mean the website has been up since Summer 2012, but waited 2 WEEKS to Finally notify customers on the Red Line South through the ultra late Ambassadors program. Then you have local news Media that suggested that service south of Roosevelt is discontinued & OVERHYPED THAT TO DISCOURAGE RIDERS from learning about additional service alternatives & continued Red Line to 63/Ashland & free shuttles at Garfield. My point is, those shuttles should have been promoted as one of the TOP HIGHLIGHTS to attract riders. The Zone Brochures are nice, but general specific project brochure would have been simple & to the point to further outreach to the community that a free ride from 95th to Downtown is FREE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 My take on the shuttles [from 95/Ryan to Garfield] - I find them to be fast when riding opposite rush hour traffic and during off peak times. Southbound on the Ryan during the PM rush is not so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkohut Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 As an example, a couple of days in, Les Grobstein said that the Red Line wasn't going to The Cell, and you had to transfer to the Green Line. No, if you are a north sider; the Red Line stops at Bronzeville, and you walk a couple of more blocks. Remember the previous discussion about Sox service, and at least CTA is consistent that the Red Line is the train, not necessarily certain stations. Now you know why Les Grobstein is on overnite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Now you know why Les Grobstein is on overnite From CPS on 26.3 and other stuff, it appears he works 24 hours. I doubt he rides the L to the south side, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I just believe the CTA could have promoted this 5 Month Service Changes a lot better. I mean the website has been up since Summer 2012, but waited 2 WEEKS to Finally notify customers on the Red Line South through the ultra late Ambassadors program. Then you have local news Media that suggested that service south of Roosevelt is discontinued & OVERHYPED THAT TO DISCOURAGE RIDERS from learning about additional service alternatives & continued Red Line to 63/Ashland & free shuttles at Garfield. My point is, those shuttles should have been promoted as one of the TOP HIGHLIGHTS to attract riders. The Zone Brochures are nice, but general specific project brochure would have been simple & to the point to further outreach to the community that a free ride from 95th to Downtown is FREE For as much advanced notice that the CTA has given; and of course the media overhyping and misreporting such news, everyone has been warned one way or the other. The ambassadors serve as a "here's a personal reminder that your line is being shutdown," and if that's made in advance, then the public should take heed of it. The announcement of the specifics to the alternatives and the shuttles came over three weeks before the project came to commence. That's usually ample opportunity to be aware of the options and adjust your behaviors accordingly. And with as many alternatives as there are, and given the wide service area, I don't think the TA would want to produce a mass booklet of the entire project (although some of us foamers wouldn't care at all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 For as much advanced notice that the CTA has given; and of course the media overhyping and misreporting such news, everyone has been warned one way or the other. The ambassadors serve as a "here's a personal reminder that your line is being shutdown," and if that's made in advance, then the public should take heed of it. The announcement of the specifics to the alternatives and the shuttles came over three weeks before the project came to commence. That's usually ample opportunity to be aware of the options and adjust your behaviors accordingly. And with as many alternatives as there are, and given the wide service area, I don't think the TA would want to produce a mass booklet of the entire project (although some of us foamers wouldn't care at all). In my honest opinion... Then project was announced nearly a year ahead. Even though CTA and the media didnt give out specific shuttle details and details and route deviations, people should've started looking and considering the options around their areas and a Plan A, B, and C etc. back when it was announced instead of waiting for CTA to come and give them the info. Like Jajuan has stated earlier, there's almost always a 2nd alternative to and from an area unless its a less populated area or simply late at night when many buses stop running; people should take the time to learn those alternatives until waiting for something as big as this to happen. I got 7-9 ways to figure my way to/from my area in case of worst cases scenarios And MetroShadow, you supplement his point by pointing out that there was indeed ample time to prepare.... I've googled the project and have seen articles dated as far back as JUNE 2012. It was certainly on the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 In my honest opinion... Then project was announced nearly a year ahead. Even though CTA and the media didnt give out specific shuttle details and details and route deviations, people should've started looking and considering the options around their areas and a Plan A, B, and C etc. back when it was announced instead of waiting for CTA to come and give them the info. Like Jajuan has stated earlier, there's almost always a 2nd alternative to and from an area unless its a less populated area or simply late at night when many buses stop running; people should take the time to learn those alternatives until waiting for something as big as this to happen. I got 7-9 ways to figure my way to/from my area in case of worst cases scenarios And MetroShadow, you supplement his point by pointing out that there was indeed ample time to prepare.... I've googled the project and have seen articles dated as far back as JUNE 2012. It was certainly on the news. As much as the project is a necessary evil, there's always a way to get to where you need to. Even when I lived in Uptown during the brown line project (apples to oranges, I know), my goal was to avoid the NSM by all costs by using the Express buses. the advantage from a planning point, is that you always have the grid to give you help. It might be a pain in the butt, but at least you can still connect the dots (unlike the suburbs, or any smaller-ish city)... /of course, then traffic becomes a messed up variable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 My bottom line is, Those Shuttles should have been successful since May 19th. Yes, everybody doesnt care about brochures & timetables, but to a customer that has to adjust their work & school schedule for the CTA project, knowing that a decent timetable is available makes me plan ahead & not make me wanting to pay when i know im basically getting a free ride for 5 months. Advertisement is key to attract customers & CTA did a 2 week promo that basically highlighted the negative instead of highlighting the positives to its consumer, just like they are doing with this Ventra launch. Summer 2013 Will be here June 21st, will they push another rushed campaign ambassador program to make customers adjust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 ...Advertisement is key to attract customers & CTA did a 2 week promo that basically highlighted the negative instead of highlighting the positives to its consumer, just like they are doing with this Ventra launch.... As I pointed out in a prior debate with jajuan, attracting customers is not a goal of the CTA, where each customer is considered a 40% loss. And especially if the service is free. CTA would prefer that the uninformed customer pay even a $1.50 bus fare (transit card read by a bus south of 63rd) compared to nothing. As others have pointed out, the word was out there, including transit ambassadors including the Mayor giving out literature. People have free enough will to decide whether to take a free express that might get stuck on the expressway, take a local bus, or pay $4.25 for a Metra ride. As far as I know, there has not been any person interviewed on the TV saying that CTA didn't inform them about the alternatives. The Ventra launch is different, because that was an attempt to get customers to buy something on which the CTA was going to make commissions, and that blew up in their faces. Note, though that Ventra has not yet been launched, so there has been plenty of warning on that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrabs74 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Similar to what I said a year ago, the CTA has aggressively gotten the word out at the southern portions of the Red Line regarding the Reconstruction Project, but it's unfortunately as I predicted that regular riders here in Chinatown are having trouble figuring efficient route planning. They have taken advantage of adjacent routes that run around the neighborhood, such as the 24 and 62, but some also do not know that the CTA has provided the free shuttle R22 as a replacement for the missing Red Line service, and this is despite the CTA passing out the same brochures everyone has seen except in Chinese. At least there were some DePaul students who tried to better spread the message before the project began. (I saw them in the stationhouse talking to random passersby about the then upcoming work to be done.) The many times that I rode the southbound R22, it takes off from its designated stop north of State and Roosevelt, but hits the red light at that intersection, right next to the bus shelter for the southbound 62. Many riders headed to Chinatown then notice the signage on the stopped R22 as "TO CERMAK-CHINA STA" and realize it's headed for Chinatown, yet all the drivers I have seen do not allow them to board, insisting that it is policy for riders to board at the designated stop, nowhere else. It's always sad to see riders get turned away from a free shuttle that is stuck at the red light by drivers following what I feel is a bad policy. I'm sure if the CTA had people available to translate the brochures into Chinese, they could've gotten a couple ambassadors out to talk to riders at the Cermak stop before it all began, but I didn't see any the times I rode, only the occasional DePaul students. At least we are one month in; only four more months to go. I agree that it's an inconvenient policy, but at the same time, you also have liability issues that could potentially arise if passengers were allowed to board or alight at an unauthorized stop. I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just playing Devil's Advocate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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