2600-series - Updates & Retirements

[briman94]

#2941-42 I was told did go to the Orange so they are not LTH's. One would think when 200 cars do go to the scrapper they'll be mostly #2600 and #2700 series. I've been noticing some of the low #2600's are disappearing.

what a coincidence... I am on 2942 right now on the orange line. Still has red/purple/yellow maps inside.

[ThirdRailVision]

Is it possible to catch any #2600s on the red line, as of November 3, 2015? 

[briman94]

Is it possible to catch any #2600s on the red line, as of November 3, 2015? 

I don't think they have enough cars left on the line to run an 8-car train. Last count I heard was 10, but I've heard of at least two transfers since then.

[sw4400]

I don't think they have enough cars left on the line to run an 8-car train. Last count I heard was 10, but I've heard of at least two transfers since then.

BusHunter has them down to a solid 8 at last roster update that I checked last night/early morning. So, barring mechanical difficulties they have 8 operable cars in

2705-2706,2785-2786,2891-2892 and 2955-2956

[BusHunter]

BusHunter has them down to a solid 8 at last roster update that I checked last night/early morning. So, barring mechanical difficulties they have 8 operable cars in

2705-2706,2785-2786,2891-2892 and 2955-2956

I just received word that the last 8 #2600's on the Red line mentioned above have went to the Blue line so no more #2600's exist on the Red line. #2931-32 has also made an appearance on the blue line, so they are no longer LTH's.

Edited November 5, 2015 by BusHunter

[Busjack]

Second day of TV traffic reports of "mechanical problems on the Blue Line." Think there is any connection?

[BusHunter]

Second day of TV traffic reports of "mechanical problems on the Blue Line." Think there is any connection?

The newest car is 18 1/2 years old. At least before when they had the #2200's something was pretty new. This is almost like having a full fleet of them. But they should have about a 70 car spare ratio on top of the old ratio (might be about 100 total) which is high, mostly likely due to having all 18 year old cars on a 24 hour line. But even though they might have a rotating fleet, the cars will still fail due to age. That was the problem with #2489-90 the other day. Ultimately, the cars need more attention than the new ones. I'd adjust the car repairmen to give the blue line a higher percentage. What do they need them  on the Red line for, to twiddle their thumbs? The #5000's should mostly be repair free for the first 3 years.

Edited November 5, 2015 by BusHunter

[2400seriesrock]

Well 1 or 2 2600's are in the new show Chicago Med. I don't know what car number(s).

Edited November 20, 2015 by 2400seriesrock

[garmon757]

Well 1 or 2 2600's are in the new show Chicago Med. I don't know what car number(s).

#2659

[Busjack]

As I noted, there was an inside shot of 2819.

[2400seriesrock]

On ‎11‎/‎20‎/‎2015‎ ‎2‎:‎27‎:‎03‎, garmon757 said:

#2659

Thanks I didn't see that someone posted about 2659 already.

[garmon757]

42 minutes ago, 2400seriesrock said:

Thanks I didn't see that someone posted about 2659 already.

You're welcome. 

[Chicagos_D]

Last night after my orange line pulled out of Roosevelt station, I do believe there was an 8 car set of 2600s lights turned off at 13th street. Does anyone know if they were transferring any 2600s from the orange line to Skokie shops? 

[ThirdRailVision]

Here's an odd catch by @Zol87 back in March 2015: a Brown Line consist of what looks to be entirely #2600's... Possible result of a Brownage run?? 

[Busjack]

23 minutes ago, ThirdRailVision said:

Here's an odd catch by @Zol87 back in March 2015: a Brown Line consist of what looks to be entirely #2600's... Possible result of a Brownage run?? 

It has a Loop destination sign*, when the sign should have been changed before entering the Loop, If a Brownage, it should say Kimball according to the timetable. I'm not sure what it is, but Zol might know.

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*I clicked the picture, and then the magnifying glass in Flickr. Also, Green Red marker lights would indicate Brown Line.

[artthouwill]

1 hour ago, ThirdRailVision said:

Here's an odd catch by @Zol87 back in March 2015: a Brown Line consist of what looks to be entirely #2600's... Possible result of a Brownage run?? 

It could be either a Ravenston or a Browange.  I used to see the Ravens tons run with 200 because it originated from Howard Yard.   In either case,  the operator should have changed signs upon leaving the Mart, but sometimes operators forget. 

[Busjack]

8 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

It could be either a Ravenston or a Browange.  I used to see the Ravens tons run with 200 because it originated from Howard Yard.   In either case,  the operator should have changed signs upon leaving the Mart, but sometimes operators forget. 

But then it would normally have an Orange or Purple Loop sign.

[artthouwill]

1 hour ago, Busjack said:

But then it would normally have an Orange or Purple Loop sign.

In the morning rush, the Ravenston comes in as a Brown Line,  hence the Loop sign.  He then changes the sign to a Brown Belmont sign.  I don't know whether he changes to a Purple Howard sign at Mdse Mart or Belmont, though the latter would be my guess. 

In the case of a Brownage,  the train would have a Brown Loop sign  to Library,  then change to Orange and proceed south on Wabash.   

Based on the date,  I would guess Ravenston as the Orange Line had 2400s.

[Pace831]

1 hour ago, artthouwill said:

 I don't know whether he changes to a Purple Howard sign at Mdse Mart or Belmont, though the latter would be my guess. 

I'd guess the opposite, that the sign is changed from Belmont to Howard at Mart. That way the people waiting between Mart and Wellington know that the train is actually going to Howard so they don't have to wait for the next one. Otherwise, the only people on board during the express segment would be those who boarded at Belmont.

1 hour ago, artthouwill said:

In the case of a Brownage,  the train would have a Brown Loop sign  to Library,  then change to Orange and proceed south on Wabash.

I was on the Purple Line Express in the morning about a week ago and I saw some trains going southbound with Midway signs, north of the Mart. What you described would make more sense though. Maybe I just happened to see operators not following procedure, or stuck signs.

[andrethebusman]

As of 7/1/16 following listed as stored at Skokie: 2753-54, 2761-62, 2765-66, 2811-12, 2847-48, 2907-08, 2963-64

386 on Blue, 108 on Orange, 6 Christmas train, 14 stored, 1 r# 3458 for 515 in existence, 85 now scrapped.

[andrethebusman]

2600's 7/16:

2601-02 Blue

2603-04 Orange

2605-08 Blue

2609-10 gone

2611-16 Blue

2617-28 gone

2619-20 Orange

2621-30 Blue

2631 gone

2632 see 2721

2633-34 Blue

2635-36 gone

2637-38 Blue

2639-42 gone

2643-44 Orange

2645-56 Blue

2657-58 Orange

2659-60 gone

2661-62 Orange

2663-64 Blue

2665-66 Orange

2667-72 Blue

2673-74 Orange

2675-78 Blue

2679-80 Orange

2681-82 Blue

2683-86 Orange

2687-92 Blue

2693-96 Orange

2697-98 gone

2699-2700 Blue

2701-02 gone

2703-04 Blue

2705-06 Orange

2707-10 Blue

2711-12 Orange

2713-20 Blue

2721/2632 Blue

2722 gone

2723-24 Orange

2725-26 Blue

2727-30 gone

2731-32 Blue

2733-34 gone

2735-36 Blue

2737-38 gone

2739-40 Orange

2741-52 Blue

2753-54 stored

2755-58 Blue

2759-60 gone

2761-62 stored

2763-64 gone

2765-66 stored

2767-68 Blue

2769-70 Orange

2771-82 Blue

2783-84 gone

2785-86 Orange

2787-90 gone

2791/2856 Orange

2792 gone

2793-94 Blue

2795-96 Orange

2797-98 Blue

2799-2802 gone

2803-04 Orange

2805-10 Blue

2811-12 stored

2813-18 Orange

2819-22 Blue

2823-24 Orange

2825-26 gone

2827-28 Blue

2829-30 gone

2831-34 Orange

2835-36 gone

2837-38 Orange

2839-44 Blue

2845-46 Orange

2847-48 stored

2849-50 Blue

2851-52 Orange

2853-54 Blue

2855 gone

2856 see 2791

2857-58 Blue

2859-62 Orange

2863-68 Blue

2869-72 Orange

2873-74 Blue

2875-76 gone

2877-80 Orange

2881-82 Blue

2883-84 Orange

2885-86 Blue

2887-88 Orange

2889-90 gone

2891-92 Blue

2893-98 Christmas train

2899-2900 gone

2901-06 Blue

2907-08 stored

2909-12 Blue

2913-14 Orange

2915-16 Blue

2917-18 Orange

2919-20 Blue

2921-22 gone

2923-26 Orange

2927-34 Blue

2935-26 Orange

2937-40 Blue

2941-42 gone

2943-44 Orange

2945-46 Blue

2947-48 gone

2949-50 Blue

2951-54 Orange

2955-56 gone

2957-58 Orange

2959-60 gone

2961-62 Blue

2963-64 stored

2965-72 Blue

2973-74 Orange

2975-76 Blue

2977-78 gone

2979-82 Blue

2983-84 Orange

2985-90 Blue

2991-92 gone

2993-3028 Blue

3029-32 gone

3033-34 Blue

3035-36 gone

3037-48 Blue

3049-50 gone

3051-58 Blue

3059-60 Orange

3061-62 gone

3063-84 Blue

3085-86 Orange

3087-88 gone

3089-3120 Blue

3121-22 gone

3123-28 Blue

3129-30 gone

3131-70 Blue

3171-72 gone

3173-76 Blue

3177-78 gone

3179-84 Blue

3185-86 Orange

3187-92 Blue

3193-94 Orange

3195-96 Blue

3197-98 Orange

3199-3200 Blue

[andrethebusman]

list of goners...

Kristopans.FOIA.ResponsiveDoc.xlsx

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, andrethebusman said:

list of goners...

Kristopans.FOIA.ResponsiveDoc.xlsx

So depending on how one counts 3458, 77 down, 523 still around.

1494 cars total.

[chgofan78]

2783-2784 still in service.   Just rode them on the Orange Line today. 

[sw4400]

15 hours ago, Busjack said:

So depending on how one counts 3458, 77 down, 523 still around.

1494 cars total.

It will be interesting to see what happens to 3457 after 3458 is retired. Right now, 3351-3352 and 3435-3436 are still OOS after the incidents. If one of the two cars in the pair(s) are not salvageable, then 3457 can be remarried to one of them. Otherwise, I wonder what might happen with 3457. I don't think 3458 will get a rebuilt traction motor and LED signage and lighting because the car right now is 32 years old.