cta5658 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 12 hours ago, BusHunter said: These are going to be similar to the newer engines they have they are shorter and probably less weight. Remember the issues they had with the UP bridges having weight issues. That will probably be addressed now with these lighter engines. Expect these to run on the UP lines. Two questions: 1. Will some of these F59PHI's be on the Rock Island District? 2. Which month will the engines arrive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 7 hours ago, cta5658 said: Two questions: 1. Will some of these F59PHI's be on the Rock Island District? 2. Which month will the engines arrive? Who knows, but @BusHunter seems on the right track in that the UP generally has the oldest 100s and doesn't have 400s. Read the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Busjack said: Who knows, but @BusHunter seems on the right track in that the UP generally has the oldest 100s and doesn't have 400s. Read the article. The UP lines have the only F40PH-2s that have not been rebuilt to F40PH-3 (150-173). These were given mid life overhauls in 2004-6. The video of the board meeting mentioned that a full rebuild at Progress Rail of a F40PH-2 costs $2.2M. Metra can get the F59PHI for $1.3M each, they have all been overhauled in the last 5 years (some as recently as last year with an average time since rebuild of 3.2 years). It is also getting increasingly more difficult to get Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) spare parts for the original F40PH-2 which were built in 1983. Looks like a good deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 12 hours ago, busfan2847 said: The UP lines have the only F40PH-2s that have not been rebuilt to F40PH-3 (150-173). These were given mid life overhauls in 2004-6. The video of the board meeting mentioned that a full rebuild at Progress Rail of a F40PH-2 costs $2.2M. Metra can get the F59PHI for $1.3M each, they have all been overhauled in the last 5 years (some as recently as last year with an average time since rebuild of 3.2 years). It is also getting increasingly more difficult to get Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) spare parts for the original F40PH-2 which were built in 1983. Looks like a good deal! Plus you have the benefit of modernizing your equipment. I don't know if they'll have enough modern logos to stop all loco rehabs but they probably will shelve most of them. Then you could also sell the older locos and make a little money off that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 17 hours ago, BusHunter said: Plus you have the benefit of modernizing your equipment. I don't know if they'll have enough modern logos to stop all loco rehabs but they probably will shelve most of them. Then you could also sell the older locos and make a little money off that. Based on the Inventory and @busfan2847's comment, the purchase almost but not quite matches the number of locomotives on the UPR that have not been overhauled into PH-3s. That would seem to take care of it for a while, but then the MPs would come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrymouse25 Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 Anyone seen any of these newly acquired F59phi units recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 12:44 AM, Jerrymouse25 said: Anyone seen any of these newly acquired F59phi units recently? Still nothing new from Amtrak on the supposed new purchase. There in fact has been some locker room talk that Amtrak pulled out of the deal and wants to keep what was offered. The F59s on the property (97, 98 and 99) still have many many mechanical issues. They generally operate on the Heritage Corridor but over the past month or so, at least one has been in the shop out of service (daily) and over the past week only one has been out running with 3 F40s picking up the slack. Let's keep in mind that the Amtrak purchase is for units that are already 20 years old. Doesn't anybody think that a rehab is not far in the offing ? Might there not be a double cost involved in keeping these things running. Metra often overlooks the obvious (just look at the GPS that was overspent on yet no one ever considered maintenance after buying the garbage). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcmetro Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 According to the board presentation on the 12th, the 21 locomotives will arrive between October and December. https://metrarail.com/sites/default/files/assets/about-metra/leadership/board_meetings/20180912/13_board_presentation_-_rolling_stock_procurement_update_-final.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 10:33 PM, Tcmetro said: According to the board presentation on the 12th, the 21 locomotives will arrive between October and December. https://metrarail.com/sites/default/files/assets/about-metra/leadership/board_meetings/20180912/13_board_presentation_-_rolling_stock_procurement_update_-final.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, John7 said: Beat me to it, but yes, they’re here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 16 hours ago, John7 said: I don't see a number; maybe someone else can. I thought I saw one on the Milw N., yesterday, but I think it was this, instead. If this is the final paint job, it has far more silver and far less orange and brown than prior designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Busjack said: I don't see a number; maybe someone else can. It is on the front below the windshield, and the rear side at the bottom of the blue stripe. Difficult to read, but it looks like “94”, possibly “84”. 4 minutes ago, Busjack said: If this is the final paint job, it has far more silver and far less orange and brown than prior designs. They slightly modified the existing paint job to get it ready for service faster. See here. Metra said later arrivals will be fully painted in the new standard scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, Pace831 said: They slightly modified the existing paint job to get it ready for service faster. See here. Cheaters, but I guess no different than CTA on Pace South and King County buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Pace831 said: It is on the front below the windshield, and the rear side at the bottom of the blue stripe. Difficult to read, but it looks like “94”, possibly “84”. They slightly modified the existing paint job to get it ready for service faster. See here. Metra said later arrivals will be fully painted in the new standard scheme. It is 84. On Railroad.net 3 were reported at Western Avenue earlier this week, in Amtrak livery including 470. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted October 27, 2018 Report Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 5:16 PM, John7 said: Isn't this the Pacific Surfliner paint scheme? Nevermind, saw the link posted by @Pace831 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richii0909 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Amtrak 454 and 450 at KYD today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, richii0909 said: Amtrak 454 and 450 at KYD today Those 2 came in yesterday when i was on the 8:10pm train to University park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richii0909 Posted October 28, 2018 Report Share Posted October 28, 2018 Here is a little history on those two! https://youtu.be/I7CZdQNQPyw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted October 29, 2018 Report Share Posted October 29, 2018 So will all the ex Amtrak f59 trains have its e-bells or will it be changed to just a regular bell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Here's one that is making it's final trip on Amtrak from Los Angeles to Chicago via the BNSF Southern Transcon before being changed to a Metra Train(video captured November 3rd at 5:40p MST in Flagstaff, AZ). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richii0909 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Amtrack 77 at KYD yard looks as if switcher 4 just dropped it off as he was locking the yard gate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 An additional three F59PH locomotives have been approved for purchase. Link from Metra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said: An additional three F59PH locomotives have been approved for purchase. Link from Metra Although the same type, the Amtrak ones seem more streamlined than, say Metra 97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Busjack said: Although the same type, the Amtrak ones seem more streamlined than, say Metra 97. The ex Amtrak locomotives are F59PHIs, while it appears Metra 97 and others are F59PHs. Not sure if the I means anything more than the new body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John7 Posted November 16, 2018 Report Share Posted November 16, 2018 Is metra getting more mp36 locomotives? Saw 2 GO mp36 locomotives being towed by illinois central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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