1000-series D40LF - Updates & Retirements

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

I did mention 1757 but I finally found 1824 in the boneyard and 1824 is on LTH so that is retired leaving 1822 and 1826 as the only 1820's left.

1686 and 1786 were towed down to the boneyard. 1686 has been marked as Long term hold 4 times, with 3 yellow stickers around the front and back of the bus and a chalked marking on the rear, but what surprises me is 1686 still has a new style farebox inside. 1786 only has one LTH sticker on the rear and took the place of 1614, which might have been sent down deep into the boneyard. I saw a 74th D40LF at the south fence earlier today without a farebox but has a old shield and has a yellow 6 sticker.

The Perry side has mainly been untouched at the boneyard. 1989 has been towed down there in August, 1427 has sat there since its accident in July, and 1331 1944 1588 1790 1037 and 1847 remain at the south fence. Last time I was down there 6474 was at the fence as well but 1686 took its place. Yes 8104 is also there still. 1990 also hit the boneyard, and 1659 sits next to 1990. 1667 is nowhere to be seen. I do not know the status of 1955 1927 and 1791 which sit right next to one of the shop buildings.

1977 awaits repairs along with 1992(?). 1941 was down at SS today as well. 1784 status is unknown along with 1713 but 1713 sits on south fence and 1784 is sitting in the area where 1941 is. 1272 seems to be getting gutted out, I saw the left side control panel raised along with some of the LTH 1700s and 1800s that were at SS. I also saw 1834 down there as well my first visual sighting. 1729 I saw there too but it did not have any stickers

[jajuan]

1 hour ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

1854 is in the same spot it has been before August 29th when I went by SS today. It was hiding behind 1885 so they would have had to move 1885 to get 1854 out of SS. So what I believe what happened was another bus that was out of service for some time got 1854's tracker but they did not renumber it so it tracked as 1854, but the 1854 number did not track for a week.

Makes sense. It definitely explains why the bus would show up in service for so short a time only to be right back in the boneyard again.  😂

[pudgym29]

On 9/6/2024 at 7:35 PM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

[edit] 1686 and 1786 were towed down to the boneyard. 1686 has been marked as Long term hold 4 times, with 3 yellow stickers around the front and back of the bus and a chalked marking on the rear, but what surprises me is 1686 still has a new style farebox inside. 1786 only has one LTH sticker on the rear and took the place of 1614, which might have been sent down deep into the boneyard.

Just what is going on at some garages, what with buses that are going to be scrapped getting the new farebox?😲Is there somebody at each garage that should keep track of this? This is not negligence that something was left in place on a vehicle. Somebody ordered the installation of the new farebox on a bus that was one incident away from being retired | scrapped. 😬 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1 hour ago, pudgym29 said:

Just what is going on at some garages, what with buses that are going to be scrapped getting the new farebox?😲Is there somebody at each garage that should keep track of this? This is not negligence that something was left in place on a vehicle. Somebody ordered the installation of the new farebox on a bus that was one incident away from being retired | scrapped. 😬 

the D40LF buses are being retired no matter what type of farebox they have. They’ll reinstall the farebox on an active bus.

[Busjack]

1 hour ago, pudgym29 said:

a bus that was one incident away from being retired | scrapped. 😬

Aside from what @Erin Mishkin Jr. said, that one incident hadn't happened as of then. Maybe you are clairvoyant enough to warn the VP of Bus Operations before the next time.

[jajuan]

20 hours ago, pudgym29 said:

Just what is going on at some garages, what with buses that are going to be scrapped getting the new farebox?😲Is there somebody at each garage that should keep track of this? This is not negligence that something was left in place on a vehicle. Somebody ordered the installation of the new farebox on a bus that was one incident away from being retired | scrapped. 😬 

 

18 hours ago, Busjack said:

Aside from what @Erin Mishkin Jr. said, that one incident hadn't happened as of then. Maybe you are clairvoyant enough to warn the VP of Bus Operations before the next time.

There's also the factor that not all D40LFs are getting scrapped. He must have missed when CTA announced about the same time that they first announced the contract for what are now the 8350s that they had plans to keep at least 400 of them and give them a second rehab to last long enough to make it until they make another larger bus order a few years down the road.

[Busjack]

14 minutes ago, jajuan said:

 

There's also the factor that not all D40LFs are getting scrapped. He must have missed when CTA announced about the same time that they first announced the contract for what are now the 8350s that they had plans to keep at least 400 of them and give them a second rehab to last long enough to make it until they make another larger bus order a few years down the road.

And also missed the Press Release that

Quote

The initial roll-out of the program will entail the installation and field testing of 100 updated buses through spring. The equipment will be installed on buses operating out of CTA’s Chicago Avenue Garage on the West Side, which serves some of the agency’s highest ridership routes including: #12 Roosevelt, #20 Madison, #53 Pulaski, #65 Grand and #66 Chicago.

The CTA has a fleet of more than 1,800 buses, systemwide. Following the successful testing of the first 100 buses, CTA will begin rolling out the equipment to the remaining bus fleet beginning in summer and through the end of year.

although "updated buses" is not defined, and drivers reported that the rollout "to the remaining fleet" is on a garage-by-garage basis. But as you implied, CTA never said that it was restricting the rollout to the 1050 Nova Buses (existing and future). but to the "remaining bus fleet" of a  "fleet of of more than 1,800 buses."

But, as usual, he threw a torch without defending the post.

 

[andrethebusman]

Moving fareboxes is very easy. Done quite often.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Here is the buses that aren’t confirmed on LTH or status is not known that have been out of service since August 31st.

if you have any info on those specific fleet numbers let me know I’ll update my list.

1637 (OOS since July, at SS, need to know if it’s awaiting repairs or is retired)

1667 (OOS since May, was spotted at SS in June with 1824, found 1824 is now on LTH in the boneyard)

1672 (OOS since July, supposedly retired as it’s on south fence with minor accident damage)

1675 (this is in the boneyard on LTH right?)

1687 (OOS Since late June, nearly 3 months now)

1700 (OOS since the end of April, Forest Glen unit, nearly 5 months OOS, any sighting of 1700?)

1709 (at SS, is this awaiting repairs or retired?)

1713 (on South fence, on LTH right?)

1723 (LTH?)

1729 (at SS, is this awaiting repairs or retired?)

1751 (is this at SS, and is this waiting for repairs or retired?)

1757 (spotted in the boneyard with no LTH stickers on it)

 1774 (not tracking since end of June)

1784 (at SS, status is unknown)

1791 (at SS since May)

1808 (out of service since end of July)

1834 (at SS Since April, not sure on status)

1849  and 1857 (are these still at SS?)

1866 (OOS since mid August)

1889 (at SS, status unknown)

1901 (spotted at boneyard in mid August. Is this on LTH now?)

1903 (OOS since early August, whereabouts unknown.)

1905 and 1907 (these are at SS, status unknown)

1910 (is this LTH?)

1918 (OOS since August 1st)

1927 (in same area as 1791)

1941 (at SS since late August)

1951 (OOS since mid June, once spotted at SS)

1955 (same as 1927 and 1791)

1976, 1977, 1991, 1992 (all at SS supposedly awaiting repair?)

1986, 1987 (possibly SS? Awaiting repairs? I saw 1987 at the end of July at SS)

1994 (OOS since late February, spotted at SS since late March)

1995 (OOS since mid February to June 1st, went OOS again mid July)

2014 (OOS since late August)

If any of you know where these are or their status, feel free to let me know!

[YoungBusLover]

#1808 and #1866 were recently added to the boneyard a few weeks ago. #1791 may be on the chopping block as it was due to return to NP last month. Anything else you see mentioned that sits along the SS fence is on LTH. The stickers are being place on the rear of the buses. 

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

2 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Here is the buses that aren’t confirmed on LTH or status is not known that have been out of service since August 31st.

if you have any info on those specific fleet numbers let me know I’ll update my list.

1637 (OOS since July, at SS, need to know if it’s awaiting repairs or is retired)

1667 (OOS since May, was spotted at SS in June with 1824, found 1824 is now on LTH in the boneyard)

1672 (OOS since July, supposedly retired as it’s on south fence with minor accident damage)

1675 (this is in the boneyard on LTH right?)

1687 (OOS Since late June, nearly 3 months now)

1700 (OOS since the end of April, Forest Glen unit, nearly 5 months OOS, any sighting of 1700?)

1709 (at SS, is this awaiting repairs or retired?)

1713 (on South fence, on LTH right?)

1723 (LTH?)

1729 (at SS, is this awaiting repairs or retired?)

1751 (is this at SS, and is this waiting for repairs or retired?)

1757 (spotted in the boneyard with no LTH stickers on it)

 1774 (not tracking since end of June)

1784 (at SS, status is unknown)

1791 (at SS since May)

1808 (out of service since end of July)

1834 (at SS Since April, not sure on status)

1849  and 1857 (are these still at SS?)

1866 (OOS since mid August)

1889 (at SS, status unknown)

1901 (spotted at boneyard in mid August. Is this on LTH now?)

1903 (OOS since early August, whereabouts unknown.)

1905 and 1907 (these are at SS, status unknown)

1910 (is this LTH?)

1918 (OOS since August 1st)

1927 (in same area as 1791)

1941 (at SS since late August)

1951 (OOS since mid June, once spotted at SS)

1955 (same as 1927 and 1791)

1976, 1977, 1991, 1992 (all at SS supposedly awaiting repair?)

1986, 1987 (possibly SS? Awaiting repairs? I saw 1987 at the end of July at SS)

1994 (OOS since late February, spotted at SS since late March)

1995 (OOS since mid February to June 1st, went OOS again mid July)

2014 (OOS since late August)

If any of you know where these are or their status, feel free to let me know!

#1700 boneyard

#1723 SS 

[Policeman]

2 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

1849  and 1857 (are these still at SS?)

1849 SS 

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Thank you for all the information so far. Let me know about any new additions as I continue to mark buses permanently retired.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

Also one more thing does 1272 have the LTH sticker too?

[Javi75]

Just rode 1000 on the 50 Damen tonight on my way home from work it was the final southbound  run on the route for the evening. The irony is that 18 years ago was my first time ever seeing a NF 1000 series bus and it was 1000 on the 50 Damen at the same stop I got off at tonight. What bus route was the first time you ever saw a 1000 in service on? 

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

11 hours ago, Javi75 said:

Just rode 1000 on the 50 Damen tonight on my way home from work it was the final southbound  run on the route for the evening. The irony is that 18 years ago was my first time ever seeing a NF 1000 series bus and it was 1000 on the 50 Damen at the same stop I got off at tonight. What bus route was the first time you ever saw a 1000 in service on? 

that’s not the original 1000. the original is at the training facility on the south side.

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

On 9/18/2024 at 6:33 PM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

Also one more thing does 1272 have the LTH sticker too?

no

[YoungBusLover]

13 hours ago, Javi75 said:

Just rode 1000 on the 50 Damen tonight on my way home from work it was the final southbound  run on the route for the evening. The irony is that 18 years ago was my first time ever seeing a NF 1000 series bus and it was 1000 on the 50 Damen at the same stop I got off at tonight. What bus route was the first time you ever saw a 1000 in service on? 

I'd say the first one I ever got on was when 74th finally got some 1700s back in 2008. I believe it was #1726 I was on with my mother going EB on 63rd. I was surprised at the way the bus ran and looked. I was so use to riding High floor buses out of 74th. 😅 

[Mr.cta85]

I remember my 1st time seeing them. 1st 2 things that made me like them was one the simplicity of it looked like an updated version of the 4000 series MAN buses I grew up riding as a kid in the 90’s. And the 2nd was of course them being updated versions of the 5800 new flyers that came out in 95. When I 1st started at cta in 2012 the 1000 series were a good 6yrs old in service and till this day my favorite bus to operate. I ask for one all the time cause one day they’ll be gone 😞. So I’m glad they still in service. 1852, and 1486 are my favorites ones lol I have history with those buses going back to my days at 103rd. 1486 is at 74th with me now lol.

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

1 hour ago, Mr.cta85 said:

I remember my 1st time seeing them. 1st 2 things that made me like them was one the simplicity of it looked like an updated version of the 4000 series MAN buses I grew up riding as a kid in the 90’s. And the 2nd was of course them being updated versions of the 5800 new flyers that came out in 95. When I 1st started at cta in 2012 the 1000 series were a good 6yrs old in service and till this day my favorite bus to operate. I ask for one all the time cause one day they’ll be gone 😞. So I’m glad they still in service. 1852, and 1486 are my favorites ones lol I have history with those buses going back to my days at 103rd. 1486 is at 74th with me now lol.

1852 is retired unfortunately but when I took a ride on it that bus sounded amazing.

[Mr.NewFlyer1279]

Seen #1551 westbound on foster earlier around 5:30pm as “NOT IN SERVICE” “P992” in the run box also noticed the seats are installed back on it. probably will see service soon. 

[dailycommuter62]

1145 was the first 1000 I rode on the 44 right after Kedzie (Archer too?) gave 1095-1165 iirc to 74th mid 2009. 74th had the 1731-60 block for a while before that but I never lucked into getting on any of those until the swap. Man did those low 1000s sound good before they changed the transmission settings with the axle whine. The Kedzie 1600s were cool with the led lighting for a year or two up until they all broke and jangled around loose in their casing

[Bus1883]

2 hours ago, dailycommuter62 said:

1145 was the first 1000 I rode on the 44 right after Kedzie (Archer too?) gave 1095-1165 iirc to 74th mid 2009. 74th had the 1731-60 block for a while before that but I never lucked into getting on any of those until the swap. Man did those low 1000s sound good before they changed the transmission settings with the axle whine. The Kedzie 1600s were cool with the led lighting for a year or two up until they all broke and jangled around loose in their casing

#1321 still has that sound at least that most of the #1000-1429 range don’t have anymore, you’ve got to ride it trust me. There’s videos of them over 12 years ago before the rehabs man I prefer the original set ups over the rehabs tbh. I miss how the 1630-2029 group sounded before the rehabs as well as the blue LED lighting they were formally equipped with during their early years. A good chunk of the #4000s under #4150 still have them to this day.

[YoungBusLover]

On 9/25/2024 at 3:37 AM, Bus1883 said:

#1321 still has that sound at least that most of the #1000-1429 range don’t have anymore, you’ve got to ride it trust me. There’s videos of them over 12 years ago before the rehabs man I prefer the original set ups over the rehabs tbh. I miss how the 1630-2029 group sounded before the rehabs as well as the blue LED lighting they were formally equipped with during their early years. A good chunk of the #4000s under #4150 still have them to this day.

A lot of #1000s still have the original setup as far the transmission, #1339 was just given the old setup back after all these years and it is one of the fastest buses we have at 77th. 😂

[Erin Mishkin Jr.]

They set 1086 back to original transmission too last fall.

they also put 1149 to original transmission too and 1149 now sounds just like 1112, which both don’t really sound too good.