8350-series Nova LFS - Updates

[artthouwill]

34 minutes ago, Javi75 said:

I meant in the sense that the 5300s and 6000s were different bus series that were similar models with minor differences, not series number wise. Starting a series on a 50 instead of a 100 is definitely out the ordinary. I’ve gotten to use to NF holding majority of the bus fleet especially the idea that there’s the same bus series at every garage on every route. 

It's our id the ordinary,  but Pace did it in 2013. THE NABIs ended at 6322 and Eldorado Axxess buses started with 6323 .  What's even crazier is that Pace already had 6600 series NABIS and 6900 series NCI D Series byses operating. Oaxe had to jump over the 6600s when numbering the Axxess buses 

[Javi75]

5 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

It's our id the ordinary,  but Pace did it in 2013. THE NABIs ended at 6322 and Eldorado Axxess buses started with 6323 .  What's even crazier is that Pace already had 6600 series NABIS and 6900 series NCI D Series byses operating. Oaxe had to jump over the 6600s when numbering the Axxess buses 

Pace is wild lol 

[artthouwill]

55 minutes ago, Javi75 said:

Pace is wild lol 

Maybe  but the point is that though it's rare, it's been done though I can't recall CTA ever doing that  before now.  

Actually thinking about it,  the 4333s are different from the 4300s even though they were ordered at the same time.   The only difference is that the 4300svare electric hybrids and the 4333s are clean diesels.   Bur they are considered different series and the clean diesels are numbered starting with 4333 with the last Hybrid numbered 4332.  Based on this,  I would argue that the 8350s are a separate series. 

[Bus1883]

9 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

Maybe  but the point is that though it's rare, it's been done though I can't recall CTA ever doing that  before now.  

Actually thinking about it,  the 4333s are different from the 4300s even though they were ordered at the same time.   The only difference is that the 4300svare electric hybrids and the 4333s are clean diesels.   Bur they are considered different series and the clean diesels are numbered starting with 4333 with the last Hybrid numbered 4332.  Based on this,  I would argue that the 8350s are a separate series. 

Or just like the 800 and 900-series DE40LFs which are two separate series and had two different Hybrid drivetrains but was part of the same order with the 1000-series order. The original order of the #1000’s was 265 buses mainly 245 of the #1000’s #1000-1244 and the 20 DE40LFs but that backfired to be prosecuted to 1,050 buses being delivered to CTA with the #4400’s, #5300’s, #5800’s and the #6000’s needed to be replaced. 

[busfan2847]

On 8/9/2022 at 4:32 PM, Busjack said:

 

The last thing I remember that was this confusing  was 9800 and 1600 Flyers.

The 9800 had 2+2 seating, the 1600 2+1. It was the same with 6000 2+2 & 5300 2+1.

[artthouwill]

1 hour ago, busfan2847 said:

The 9800 had 2+2 seating, the 1600 2+1. It was the same with 6000 2+2 & 5300 2+1.

But 1929 - 2029 have the bowling alley seating and is still considered part of the 1000 series.   Those also have a different transmission compared to the others.

Similarly New Fkter artics 4150 - 4207 also have the bowling alley seating but are still part of the 4000 series 

[busfan2847]

8 minutes ago, artthouwill said:

But 1929 - 2029 have the bowling alley seating and is still considered part of the 1000 series.   Those also have a different transmission compared to the others.

Similarly New Fkter artics 4150 - 4207 also have the bowling alley seating but are still part of the 4000 series 

So previously cta did allocate different number series, now they do not!

[Bus1883]

2 hours ago, artthouwill said:

But 1929 - 2029 have the bowling alley seating and is still considered part of the 1000 series.   Those also have a different transmission compared to the others.

Similarly New Fkter artics 4150 - 4207 also have the bowling alley seating but are still part of the 4000 series 

Yeah CTA always do a few changes with the options of newer buses in one fleet.

[BusHunter]

#8358 has debuted today at fg on the #56. I'm still seeing #8300's at SS. I guess they are working out the kinks. Weird though I saw #8437 with a farebox.. .  at SS of course. 

[Shannoncvpi]

8351 on the 85 seen it on my way home while recording some mebers of a biker gang I was behind

[Policeman]

8367 hit service on the 85

[jajuan]

I spotted a video from @Erin Mishkin Jr. Of a ride taken aboard 8371 on the 92, and that bus already has an annoying engine squeal, like a belt or some other part is rubbing against something, when that bus accelerates.

[YoungBusLover]

So #8421 just popped up in revenue service at FG. Does this mean that they're getting the entire base order?

[Rhys Pate]

8421 on route 81 today. Photos and videos.

[Bus1883]

4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

So #8421 just popped up in revenue service at FG. Does this mean that they're getting the entire base order?

Looks like they are, if another #8400 pops then that’s a sign that they will. If so are they sending #8343-8349 to 103rd?

[Mr.NewFlyer1051]

50 minutes ago, Bus1883 said:

Looks like they are, if another #8400 pops then that’s a sign that they will. If so are they sending #8343-8349 to 103rd?

#8420 is also at FG

[artthouwill]

8 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

So #8421 just popped up in revenue service at FG. Does this mean that they're getting the entire base order?

I always felt like FG should get the entire base order.   Since we know the first option is exercised, we will see what garage gets the next order.  Perhaps that will be 103rd, seeing as most of their New Flyer buses are among the oldest in CTA'S fleet . If this pattern continues,  i expect the only garage that won't have any 8350s is NP, which generally hasn't had Novas,  except for the short period following Archer's closure. 

[Policeman]

8422 hit service on the N77

[BusHunter]

10 hours ago, Policeman said:

8422 hit service on the N77

Looks like fg is going all Nova. 

[jajuan]

So much for the 50-50 split between FG and 103rd that others had reported shortly before the first 8350s went into service.

[Bus1883]

12 hours ago, Policeman said:

8422 hit service on the N77

Now it’s currently on the 56

[jajuan]

16 hours ago, Bus1883 said:

Looks like they are, if another #8400 pops then that’s a sign that they will. If so are they sending #8343-8349 to 103rd?

Why would they move 8343-8349 when they would still need those? If anything it would probably just mean that 103rd might be next to get 8350s if CTA exercises the next option as seems very likely. I'm just hoping NOVA took care of that weak AC issue that revealed itself in the 7900s. It still seems to be an apparent issue even in the 8325-8349 set of the 7900s if my last ride on 8347 a couple weeks ago when it really hot out is an indication. Those tinted windows only do so much.

[BusHunter]

Spotted #8356 debuting on the #80 broke down at irving pk and Cumberland a couple hours ago. The supervisor was there.

[Bus1883]

2 hours ago, BusHunter said:

Spotted #8356 debuting on the #80 broke down at irving pk and Cumberland a couple hours ago. The supervisor was there.

New equipment already having their first breakdown??

[Ghoul]

While I was out getting photos of the Blue Line Shuttles at Jefferson Park. 8394 has hit service on the 81