briman94 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Just now, Juniorz said: The rehab was originally to convert the 3200s into a AC-powered fleet, but due to the cost of the conversion. We all know I would have gone crazy over that! I love the sound and feel of AC motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 35 minutes ago, briman94 said: We all know I would have gone crazy over that! I love the sound and feel of AC motors. I did too, considering that each AC motor sounds different. But then I found the ear candy that is the PMSM type motor. They should have equipped the 3200s with those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briman94 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 18 minutes ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said: I did too, considering that each AC motor sounds different. But then I found the ear candy that is the PMSM type motor. They should have equipped the 3200s with those! My favorite is this: The guy's faces make it even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pace831 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 2 hours ago, briman94 said: The guy's faces make it even better Gee, I wonder why no one's riding in that car with him. He seems like a fun guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briman94 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 8 hours ago, Pace831 said: Gee, I wonder why no one's riding in that car with him. He seems like a fun guy. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 11 hours ago, briman94 said: I was realizing last night...is there an alternating-current power line that runs the length of the train? They could send the run number signal over that. It's possible to send low-voltage digital signals over high-voltage AC lines; you can get internet in your house that works that way. They might be able to communicate over that line if there is one which would pass through the un-rehabbed cars unchanged. There is an inverter, to run certain controls and the fluorescent lights (apparently gone), but is per car, as the requisition was for 261 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briman94 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 14 minutes ago, Busjack said: There is an inverter, to run certain controls and the fluorescent lights (apparently gone), but is per car, as the requisition was for 261 of them. That was replacing an existing inverter though, so the old cars still have AC somewhere. The question is: is there some connection between cars? If there's any sort of line they can hijack, they could use that for the run number boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klabstep Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 On 11/23/2015, 11:27:58, briman94 said: I think the point of the LED run boxes was to make sure the rear car reads the right number... Except that is NOT the right run number, 428 is a PM run and it there is to much sunlight. On a weekday 428 departs Kimball at 4:24 PM and get to Tower 12 at 5:03 PM, on Saturday it run latter than that, not sure about on Sunday, might not even be a 428 on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briman94 Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 On 11/23/2015, 1:33:29, garmon757 said: That train was indeed running 428. 1 minute ago, klabstep said: Except that is NOT the right run number, 428 is a PM run and it there is to much sunlight. On a weekday 428 departs Kimball at 4:24 PM and get to Tower 12 at 5:03 PM, on Saturday it run latter than that, not sure about on Sunday, might not even be a 428 on Sunday. There's a logical contradiction here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 14 hours ago, klabstep said: Except that is NOT the right run number, 428 is a PM run and it there is to much sunlight. On a weekday 428 departs Kimball at 4:24 PM and get to Tower 12 at 5:03 PM, on Saturday it run latter than that, not sure about on Sunday, might not even be a 428 on Sunday. The question is what is the FIRST departure 428 has from Kimball. Could it be possible that there was a trip prior to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klabstep Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 On 11/27/2015, 12:58:42, artthouwill said: The question is what is the FIRST departure 428 has from Kimball. Could it be possible that there was a trip prior to that? Yes that is the FIRST departure, otherwise I would NOT of posted it. There are 34 or 35 runs out of Kimball, 28 would make it towards the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 1 hour ago, klabstep said: Yes that is the FIRST departure, otherwise I would NOT of posted it. There are 34 or 35 runs out of Kimball, 28 would make it towards the end of the day. Usually the runs are structured so that they start around 1, like 301 in the morning and work their way up during the day. Like anything in the 320's is starting to get towards late evenings on the brown. It's that way for the buses too. Where there's crazy amounts of buses like on the #77, they are way up around #777 by the evenings rush. I don't know how high they go. You usually don't see runs that are like #790, but they have so many there it might be a possibility. I think where they share buses per garage per route they might start at 50, (like a #151) but that might be the only exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagopcclcar Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 Did it ever dawn on some of you that lines like the Brown line have NO MIDNIGHTS....so 428 is likely. We called them.....PM's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 #3441-42 has updated LED signs now. I've freshened up my list (2nd post of this thread) to reflect the current number of cars retrofitted. I'll see if I can get a few of those before 11/29 dates straightened out. (maybe tonight) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofan78 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 On another note, has anyone seen 3213-3214? I thought someone reported seeing them in Skokie Shops during the Yellow Line closure unless they are out as a Long-Term Hold. Seems if they were out for rehab then they should be back in service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 7 minutes ago, chgofan78 said: On another note, has anyone seen 3213-3214? I thought someone reported seeing them in Skokie Shops during the Yellow Line closure unless they are out as a Long-Term Hold. Seems if they were out for rehab then they should be back in service. No I haven't seen them, but yes they were in Skokie Shops, cause I saw them there. Also #3363-64 should be there as well as #3345-46 and whatever else was in that lone #3200 consist that was stranded at 98th yard a few months ago. I did see #3279-80 last night and it's definitely not rehabbed. It also doesn't have upgraded signs so Briman can take that off his list. I added a few more new LED signed #3200's to my list this morning like #3359-60 and #3347-48 as I was reading Garmon said they had the upgraded signs. Strange I've seem to have lost #3289-90, it's no longer outside Kimball shop and it wasn't in service yesterday, so I don't know where it went. I took a look at kimball yard and didn't see it. I don't know if maybe it went back to Skokie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcherRider Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I was wait for Purple Line train this morning I saw 3401-02 with the new LED running box but it already broken because it should read "402" but it read 535 I thought the brown line have a new run "535" but train tracker say it run 402. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briman94 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 3 hours ago, ArcherRider said: I was wait for Purple Line train this morning I saw 3401-02 with the new LED running box but it already broken because it should read "402" but it read 535 I thought the brown line have a new run "535" but train tracker say it run 402. That would have to be an operator error; Brown Line runs would never be outside of the 400s, and almost never above 430 except on special occasions. There wouldn't be a "new run" for a line that didn't start with one of that line's prefixes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 3 hours ago, ArcherRider said: I was wait for Purple Line train this morning I saw 3401-02 with the new LED running box but it already broken because it should read "402" but it read 535 I thought the brown line have a new run "535" but train tracker say it run 402. 4 minutes ago, briman94 said: That would have to be an operator error; Brown Line runs would never be outside of the 400s, and almost never above 430 except on special occasions. There wouldn't be a "new run" for a line that didn't start with one of that line's prefixes. This is a Brown Line Express to Linden! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorz Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 7 minutes ago, garmon757 said: This is a Brown Line Express to Linden! The Ravenston! they still exist i see!!!!!! For historical knowledge, The train operates out of Howard and turns into a Brown Line at Belmont and operates a round-trip to Kimball and the Loop. At Belmont, the train turns back into a Purple Line and operates to Howard via Purple Line Express 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 4 hours ago, ArcherRider said: I was wait for Purple Line train this morning I saw 3401-02 with the new LED running box but it already broken because it should read "402" but it read 535 I thought the brown line have a new run "535" but train tracker say it run 402. That's Brown Line stock(3401-3402), so how could that considered a Ravenston? Maybe a Evansball or something, but the Ravenston/Brownage runs were created because of shortages on the Brown Line during rush hour due to lack of equipment/scheduled Rail Operators, or both. Purple Line has 5401-5500, which is new stock, they also reportedly borrow from the Red Line stock as well, so there shouldn't be any shortages there. In all the years I've seen Ravenstons or Brownages running, it was with equipment from Linden or Midway Yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briman94 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 4 hours ago, sw4400 said: That's Brown Line stock(3401-3402), so how could that considered a Ravenston? Maybe a Evansball or something, but the Ravenston/Brownage runs were created because of shortages on the Brown Line during rush hour due to lack of equipment/scheduled Rail Operators, or both. Purple Line has 5401-5500, which is new stock, they also reportedly borrow from the Red Line stock as well, so there shouldn't be any shortages there. In all the years I've seen Ravenstons or Brownages running, it was with equipment from Linden or Midway Yards. The 500 run number had nothing to do with an alternate route; it was just an operator programming error. The only "hybrid" route they run is Brown/Orange currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 6 hours ago, sw4400 said: That's Brown Line stock(3401-3402), so how could that considered a Ravenston? Maybe a Evansball or something, but the Ravenston/Brownage runs were created because of shortages on the Brown Line during rush hour due to lack of equipment/scheduled Rail Operators, or both. Purple Line has 5401-5500, which is new stock, they also reportedly borrow from the Red Line stock as well, so there shouldn't be any shortages there. In all the years I've seen Ravenstons or Brownages running, it was with equipment from Linden or Midway Yards. I remember seeing alot of Ravenstons back when they had #6000's on the Ravenswood. i used to railfan with the #6000's in high school (circa '91) as back then the last two lines were Evanston Express and Ravenswood. I haven't seen any since then. They always seem to use the #6000's for that as Ravenswood would probably have not been caught dead sending them #2700's!! When evanston went with the #5-50's and the #6000's were retired that idea sort of died as those didn't go to the ravenswood. So we're talking 24 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 2 hours ago, BusHunter said: I remember seeing alot of Ravenstons back when they had #6000's on the Ravenswood. i used to railfan with the #6000's in high school (circa '91) as back then the last two lines were Evanston Express and Ravenswood. I haven't seen any since then. They always seem to use the #6000's for that as Ravenswood would probably have not been caught dead sending them #2700's!! When evanston went with the #5-50's and the #6000's were retired that idea sort of died as those didn't go to the ravenswood. So we're talking 24 years ago. Last Ravenstons I remember seeing had to be in the 2000-2010 period, when I would catch a Brown Line between 7a-8a, and it would be a six-car train of 2400-Series cars from the Purple Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Just rode 3213-14 on the Brown Line this evening and it's fully rehabbed without the LED run number box (very questionable). The acceleration sounded very different but not as much similar to the 5000s due to the fact that they (3200s) weren't made by Bombardier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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