sw4400 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 I still hold to my first ride of the 8200's not until July or August on FG routes I use regularly(#152, #80). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Well now you can enjoy the fruits of my labor with pictures of #8199, #8200 and #8205 #8199: #8200: #8205: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Ummm..... #77 Diversey??? Are the crawls going goofy two days into service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 BTW, to @garmon757, @BusHunter and @pudgym29.... Mr. McMahon has something he'd like to send to you for the pics to this forum.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 3:39 AM, sw4400 said: Ummm..... #77 Diversey??? Are the crawls going goofy two days into service? Expand That's why they call it an interline!! Truth is the sign doesn't have space to say Lake Shore/Diversey so it displays it like that. Like my pictures of #8204 show #77 Cumberland when we know Cumberland doesn't have a CTA bus just #81W. Now why do they say Diversey/LK shore when that is out by the Diversey harbor exit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 3:39 AM, sw4400 said: Ummm..... #77 Diversey??? Are the crawls going goofy two days into service? Expand @sw4400No. The eastbound scroll for the 77 is "77 BELMONT to" flip "77 LAKE SHORE/" flip "77 DIVERSEY". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 3:52 AM, BusHunter said: That's why they call it an interline!! Truth is the sign doesn't have space to say Lake Shore/Diversey so it displays it like that. Like my pictures of #8204 show #77 Cumberland when we know Cumberland doesn't have a CTA bus just #81W. Now why do they say Diversey/LK shore when that is out by the Diversey harbor exit? Expand They probably say that BH because the destination is Inner Lake Shore Drive and Diversey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Couldn't they just have them say "Lake Shore" to make it easier? If you look at the Clever Devices unit on a #152 bus, it says Lake Shore/Waveland, yet the crawl says 152 ADDISON *flip* 152 LAKE SHORE It doesn't say 152 ADDISON *flip* 152 LAKE SHORE *flip* 152 WAVELAND The signs don't have to be accurate to a "T", do they? If someone who didn't live in Chicago saw a #77 bus and picked it up when it said 77 DIVERSEY, wouldn't they get confused thinking that bus might be a Diversey bus? They may not know #76 is Diversey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 3:59 AM, jajuan said: They probably say that BH because the destination is Inner Lake Shore Drive and Diversey. Expand Actually LSD in is two places there. There doesn't seem to be an inner drive. So I noticed #8204 wasn't in service today. It must really have a problem with it's Ventra. I guess Belmont riders can't have a free ride two days straight. That would be really insulting anyway. Pay at the prepaid boarding to find out the bus was free anyway!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 4:12 AM, BusHunter said: Actually LSD in is two places there. There doesn't seem to be an inner drive. So I noticed #8204 wasn't in service today. It must really have a problem with it's Ventra. I guess Belmont riders can't have a free ride two days straight. That would be really insulting anyway. Pay at the prepaid boarding to find out the bus was free anyway!! Expand The roadway that the buses are on going down to Diversey for their layover is Inner Lake Shore Drive. That that they take to get back to Belmont is Sheridan, even though the city may be doing a goofy thing like marking that stretch as Lake Shore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 4:09 AM, sw4400 said: Couldn't they just have them say "Lake Shore" to make it easier? If you look at the Clever Devices unit on a #152 bus, it says Lake Shore/Waveland, yet the crawl says 152 ADDISON *flip* 152 LAKE SHORE It doesn't say 152 ADDISON *flip* 152 LAKE SHORE *flip* 152 WAVELAND The signs don't have to be accurate to a "T", do they? If someone who didn't live in Chicago saw a #77 bus and picked it up when it said 77 DIVERSEY, wouldn't they get confused thinking that bus might be a Diversey bus? They may not know #76 is Diversey. Expand Probably CTA could stand to lower the letter size. Then maybe they could fit LK Shore/Diversey on one sign. Don't know why it's so big. The street name should always have the biggest letters as that's what you want to convey. This is a Belmont bus. Maybe they think we are blind. Don't know what people did in the 70's and 80's as the roll sign destinations were much smaller. Maybe they took out their binoculars to read the destination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 4:19 AM, BusHunter said: Probably CTA could stand to lower the letter size. Then maybe they could fit LK Shore/Diversey on one sign. Don't know why it's so big. The street name should always have the biggest letters as that's what you want to convey. This is a Belmont bus. Maybe they think we are blind. Don't know what people did in the 70's and 80's as the roll sign destinations were much smaller. Maybe they took out their binoculars to read the destination. Expand That same question could probably be asked about the 15 character flip dot destination buses by those who mostly only know buses with current LED destination sign technology. But that does get to the question of why is CTA still acting like it has buses whose signs could only display 15 characters in their head and side signs? Same for Pace with some of its routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 4:28 AM, jajuan said: Same for Pace with some of its routes. Expand Pace is worse; 77 Diversey would be the only sign, sort of like 290 Central or even 290 Central Fargo Loop. After the discussion of 157, CTA could have condensed this sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 4:32 AM, Busjack said: Pace is worse; 77 Diversey would be the only sign, sort of like 290 Central or even 290 Central Fargo Loop. After the discussion of 157, CTA could have condensed this sign. Expand Which is why I got lost a lot when taking a bus to a suburban location I wasn't as familiar with. Ms Pace staying something like "Route 290 Westbound to....." helps somewhat, but not by much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Next stops for the 8200's(not necessarily in this order) #56 Milwaukee #84 Peterson #85 Central #85A North Central #88 Higgins Milwaukee is another high volume route to stretch the 8200's at. Peterson, Central, North Central and Higgins are relatively close to FG(near the starting or ending points of each of these routes), so the buses can be assigned near home base for awhile. This is how I think FG will branch out with the 8200's as more come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 4:58 AM, sw4400 said: Next stops for the 8200's(not necessarily in this order) Expand Wherever the dispatcher releases them. That has been explained by someone by someone who worked in a garage before. You haven't had a good prognostication streak on this thread (although math22's tracker has 5 on Belmont).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 1:39 PM, Busjack said: Wherever the dispatcher releases them. That has been explained by someone by someone who worked in a garage before. You haven't had a good prognostication streak on this thread (although math22's tracker has 5 on Belmont).. Expand Yeah I was going to say all 6 #8200's are on the #77 this morning. I did a street count and the #77 has 24 buses right now, so a quarter of the buses are new already. So possibly by the end of July we may be looking at #8200 exclusivity on the #77. No one has yet to do a south shops delivery count for this week, but #8211 and #8217 should be 2 of them. There might be 5 total, which probably puts them up to around 18-20 received (#8200 - #8217, #8246) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 1:53 PM, BusHunter said: Yeah I was going to say all 6 #8200's are on the #77 this morning. Expand Math phart on my part. I forgot that the series starts at 8200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 #8212 #8216 #8218 and #8219 have arrived. #8206 thru #8209 should begin service this week because they're not at the shop. Update: I spoke too soon (photo). Also expect #8214 to begin service this week (#8206 is on the left side of #8214 and #8208 is behind #8206). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 1:53 PM, BusHunter said: Yeah I was going to say all 6 #8200's are on the #77 this morning. I did a street count and the #77 has 24 buses right now, so a quarter of the buses are new already. So possibly by the end of July we may be looking at #8200 exclusivity on the #77. No one has yet to do a south shops delivery count for this week, but #8211 and #8217 should be 2 of them. There might be 5 total, which probably puts them up to around 18-20 received (#8200 - #8217, #8246) Expand Ummm don't know about the exclusivity part, but yes we should be seeing more in service over the coming weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 8:41 PM, jajuan said: Ummm don't know about the exclusivity part, but yes we should be seeing more in service over the coming weeks. Expand They might trickle them in to Fg like they did Chicago. Alot of days at Chicago they would do 2 and then the next few days two more. There is a pattern already for this at FG, although it is early still. They got the 4 buses then #8204-05 came together. So does this mean #8206-07 will be there in a few days? There are no "F" stickers on any #8200's so far. AFAIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 8:49 PM, BusHunter said: They might trickle them in to Fg like they did Chicago. Alot of days at Chicago they would do 2 and then the next few days two more. There is a pattern already for this at FG, although it is early still. They got the 4 buses then #8204-05 came together. So does this mean #8206-07 will be there in a few days? There are no "F" stickers on any #8200's so far. AFAIK Expand Maybe they're temporary loans.... maybe 77th wants more new buses and will swap some New Flyers to FG for the 8200's...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 9:13 PM, sw4400 said: Maybe they're temporary loans.... maybe 77th wants more new buses and will swap some New Flyers to FG for the 8200's...... Expand Somebody arrest this man!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6/7/2016 at 9:13 PM, sw4400 said: Maybe they're temporary loans.... maybe 77th wants more new buses and will swap some New Flyers to FG for the 8200's...... Expand North Park has some artics 77th could trade some Flyers for ☕☕ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 8206,07,08,14 to FG tue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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