Busjack Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, Johnny 5 said: So if 27 of the older buses survive for the next two years, what garage will they choose to move the buses over to? Forest Glen. They aren't going to the East Dundee Outstation Division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 5 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 Oh, OK. Perhaps get the older buses some new seats and new lighting for energy efficiency, as well as repainting some parts of the bus that's rusted and grotty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 20 minutes ago, Johnny 5 said: Oh, OK. Perhaps get the older buses some new seats and new lighting for energy efficiency, as well as repainting some parts of the bus that's rusted and grotty. They aren't going to put money into future scrap. Only the ones in fair condition will be saved. A Nova Bus is made with a stainless steel frame and thermoplastic shell. There's nothing, at least on the surface, to rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, BusHunter said: Now you're changing the rules. I thought this was a cage match where no rules apply. Looks like he got you BH. 6 minutes ago, Busjack said: They aren't going to put money into future scrap. Only the ones in fair condition will be saved. A Nova Bus is made with a stainless steel frame and thermoplastic shell. There's nothing, at least on the surface, to rust. I think he was saying do something about the deterioration of the skin that some of the buses have, but it's probably better to just count those among the ones that they actually will retire soon in favor of ones in better condition since as you pointed out they aren't going to do anything big with buses set to be gone in the next couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 And Sw, I agree with Busjack and BH that CTA is bringing 8090 back since for one they did award a contract. You likely wouldn't have been able to quote a repair price otherwise. Plus past history with the New Flyer buses like 1148 and 4327 for example show that buses with a significant amount of body damage can and do come back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, jajuan said: I think he was saying do something about the deterioration of the skin that some of the buses have But as I said, the skin on a Nova can't rust. From what others have said, and the picture of 4333 melting down in the fire, it doesn't look like the skin of any bus in the current fleet can rust, since they are all some sort of composite plastic. It could be like some 4400s, which showed glass fibers, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, Busjack said: But as I said, the skin on a Nova can't rust. From what others have said, and the picture of 4333 melting down in the fire, it doesn't look like the skin of any bus in the current fleet can rust, since they are all some sort of composite plastic. It could be like some 4400s, which showed glass fibers, but that's about it. I get and know that, but I think you're misunderstanding me a bit. The deterioration I noted and what I think he was getting at was a breaking up of the skin on some buses near the bumpers and along the lower part of the bus at points along the the body above the lower panels. Some of the deterioration is bad enough to show reveal some discoloration and even open small holes in the buses' skin. I think he was observing that same thing and misstated it as being rust. Remember not all members,especially if they're among our newer members, will know a bus's skin is made of composite materials in these recent times like you, some others and I do. But at any rate, my prior post still stands in my agreement with you that it's better to place a bus like that in the very soon to retire group in favor of buses of better condition to keep towards the 2018 FY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Johnny 5 said: So if 27 of the older buses survive for the next two years, what garage will they choose to move the buses over to? There's going to be more than 27 #6400 buses but we'll save that argument for the next 6 months or year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 5 hours ago, jajuan said: Plus past history with the New Flyer buses like 1148 and 4327 for example show that buses with a significant amount of body damage can and do come back. #1147 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted August 25, 2016 Report Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, garmon757 said: #1147 No I'm thinking of #1148 for a reason. #1148 was the bus that smacked into a rail overpass support beam on Western while still assigned to 74th. It got repaired within a couple months as I recall, shortly before being transferred briefly to NP and then to Chicago, I think back to 74th for a while, and now at 103rd. You snapped the picture of the damage as a matter fact now that I think about it. At any rate, it's coming back from that kind of damage is why I used it as an example. Plus it's a similar scenario to #8090 in having bad front end damage that CTA will get repaired to place the bus back in service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 6 hours ago, jajuan said: No I'm thinking of #1148 for a reason. #1148 was the bus that smacked into a rail overpass support beam on Western while still assigned to 74th. It got repaired within a couple months as I recall, shortly before being transferred briefly to NP and then to Chicago, I think back to 74th for a while, and now at 103rd. You snapped the picture of the damage as a matter fact now that I think about it. At any rate, it's coming back from that kind of damage is why I used it as an example. Plus it's a similar scenario to #8090 in having bad front end damage that CTA will get repaired to place the bus back in service. Ooooooh I see where you're coming from! My bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Here's shots of #8289 and #8295. #8289 #8295 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesi2282 Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 I noticed 8295 has a more basic looking bike rack, not the standard black one CTA usually uses. Not sure if someone on here noticed it already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Here's some more shots of #8300's. #8301 #8307: #8298: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Definitely a different brand of bike rack. This would be at least the third kind CTA has used. The original red ones with the spring loaded small looks on the ends, the black plastic ones with the yellow hooks, and now these. Let's see if there is a pattern as to which 82-8300's get them. On the older buses, when an original one breaks, it is replaced by a black plastic one. Is CTA trying out another type or did Nova run out of the other ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 On 8/24/2016 at 10:50 PM, BusHunter said: Hmm look what I came across.... Mr McMahon!! Now where's my gold ring and cash prize??!! (This is a dramatization, events have been changed to protect the innocent, me!!) And now presenting on the #77, Well maybe not for real... Looks like you guys have another riddle to figure out. This one I think is more clever. The other one was too easy. The winner gets to train my dog Spike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBl76lmp-d0 (not really my dog) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, BusHunter said: The winner gets to train my dog Spike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBl76lmp-d0 (not really my dog) The old dog in the mirror routine, often on America's Funniest Home Videos, although cats are better. Someone posted on a similar Mother Goose and Grimm that dogs get freaked because they can't smell the dog in the mirror. At least this one could after he fogged the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Here is some shots of #8294. I should now have pictures of all FG #8200's and #8300's in service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 Bike rack looks like the ones PACE buses have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, andrethebusman said: Bike rack looks like the ones PACE buses have. No Judge Mathis frame, so hard to tell just from the pic.Judge Milan is going to gavel somebody down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw4400 Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 On 8/26/2016 at 11:57 PM, BusHunter said: And now presenting on the #77, Well maybe not for real... Looks like you guys have another riddle to figure out. This one I think is more clever. The other one was too easy. The winner gets to train my dog Spike. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBl76lmp-d0 (not really my dog) "Nice try, pally.... but I expect a real image to get the Nova Bus Championship!!! Maybe you need a little 'stunning' reminder of that!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 18 hours ago, sw4400 said: "Nice try, pally.... but I expect a real image to get the Nova Bus Championship!!! Maybe you need a little 'stunning' reminder of that!!!" At least I got the garage right!! So these two operators yesterday get on the bus and one talks about how hot it is in the back of the new buses. We were on an #8200. They mentioned that they don't know why the mechanics don't turn down the AC temp. Then they were feeling the vents. (No dice guys I tried that ) Then one says he just got off a bus that wasn't even blowing cold air in the operators cab. He said "these buses are only good for driving" So i guess I'm not crazy here. The #4000 I was on on the #124 was delightful later that same day. I don't know somehow I see these buses in the future possibly being retrofitted with opening windows because if the AC is bad now and it's a new bus what will it be like in 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 8322 at SS today Monday. Looks like deliveries will be complete this week! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 5 Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Alright. That's new news. I'm now back to school this week so I won't be posting much information about bus updates, new deliveries and others. But I will sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 18 hours ago, andrethebusman said: 8322 at SS today Monday. Looks like deliveries will be complete this week! See I told everyone #8324 is around, but no one believes me!! I even got a picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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