strictures Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 17 hours ago, Busjack said: It got new tracks and most of the stations were upgraded. The structure wasn't replaced because it was built for steam engines, while Douglas wasn't and CTA said it was on the verge of collapse. See the following on chicago-l.org: Green Line SSM Pink Line Douglas Branch I remember the original line, it went up & down between stations, including stations that no longer existed, because the first runs were with steam engines in 1893 & that gave the engines a bit of help getting started & then helped them stop, because the incline going up slowed them down. Now it's no longer up & down, they got rid of that when it was rebuilt in the 1990s, but for some insane reason, they kept the tracks at that high level over the no longer extant railroad at Indiana & 41st. Why they didn't lower the tracks is baffling, as is why they didn't make it a double 45 degree turn there, since the land was open all around there, so no demolition would've been necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm522 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 I think it’s safe to say 77th is done with farebox instillation as 74th now has many busses equipped with new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 4 hours ago, ajm522 said: I think it’s safe to say 77th is done with farebox instillation as 74th now has many busses equipped with new ones. That is correct. 77th buses that did not have a new farebox have went to 74th for their installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarNWSider773 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 These are signs that I created for CTA stations that were once proposed for the far northwest side of the city. https://imgur.com/a/signs-far-northwest-side-cta-stations-that-were-once-proposed-h4hrnq7 The following map inspired me to create these signs. https://i.imgur.com/oPIR375.jpeg It was used as a figure in the CTA's "Northwest Chicago Corridor Transportation Study: Engineering Report" from 1962. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015023095105&seq=7 The report proposed building stations at Lawrence, Foster/Central, Nagle, and Canfield (along what is now the Blue Line). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 I knew the 900s were completely odd compared to both the 800s and the 1000s as u can spot the differences. The compartment door as well as the black cover is more towards the rear on the 900s. Were they actually 40 foot long??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 18 hours ago, Bus1883 said: I knew the 900s were completely odd compared to both the 800s and the 1000s as u can spot the differences. The compartment door as well as the black cover is more towards the rear on the 900s. Were they actually 40 foot long??? They were 40', and the placement of the doors is only incidental to the real distinction, which was that the 900s were series hybrids, meaning that the engine was only used to charge the batteries, and there were separate electric motors to power the wheels. The 800s and artics were parallel hybrids, where the engine was connected to the powertrain. In effect, there wasn't a transmission, so no need for access to.one. The distinction is explained in this more recent Car and Driver article, which now refers to the series hybrid as a "battery truck with a generator," giving rise to confusion by some readers that this "new hybrid" somehow complies with electric bus mandates. I don't remember which company manufactured the system in the 900s, but BAE was the only big supplier of them. Both the 800s and 900s were experimental, and CTA must have preferred the parallel hybrids, but I don't see why this hulk is still in the yard maybe 13 years after it went OOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 6 hours ago, Busjack said: They were 40', and the placement of the doors is only incidental to the real distinction, which was that the 900s were series hybrids, meaning that the engine was only used to charge the batteries, and there were separate electric motors to power the wheels. The 800s and artics were parallel hybrids, where the engine was connected to the powertrain. In effect, there wasn't a transmission, so no need for access to.one. The distinction is explained in this more recent Car and Driver article, which now refers to the series hybrid as a "battery truck with a generator," giving rise to confusion by some readers that this "new hybrid" somehow complies with electric bus mandates. I don't remember which company manufactured the system in the 900s, but BAE was the only big supplier of them. Both the 800s and 900s were experimental, and CTA must have preferred the parallel hybrids, but I don't see why this hulk is still in the yard maybe 13 years after it went OOS. I’m curious because the 900s looked shorter while the 800s and the 1000s appear to look longer in length. Here’s a screenshot I took of 905 in the boneyard on maps sitting next to the 800s or 1000s nearby, the 900s were shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 10 hours ago, Bus1883 said: Here’s a screenshot I took of 905 in the boneyard on maps Doesn't prove anything other than a wrecker is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 15 hours ago, Busjack said: Doesn't prove anything other than a wrecker is needed. I was comparing it lengthwise with the other new flyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 8 hours ago, Bus1883 said: I was comparing it lengthwise with the other new flyers And I still said the satellite picture doesn't prove anything. If you got into the yard to take the picture of the right rear hatch, get a tape measure or a laser and measure it bumper to bumper. Instead of doing that, or even using Google Satellite, magnifying the image shows a low res picture grabbed from social media site, without attribution. It's so low res that Icannot make out the fleet numbers. By specificattions, a 40' bus is 39'-42-. A Nova Bus is 2' shorter than a NF Xcelsior. You can look it up. Unless you are trying to convince us it is a DE35 or DE30, it's a DE40. Otherwise, instead of saying "it looks smaller" from space, use what tools you have to give us an exact bumper to bumper measurement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curiousgent31385 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 I recently came across these screenshots from CTA's "Meeting the Moment" dashboard from 2022. They show groupings for the agency's bus routes. https://imgur.com/a/ukhLjsB https://www.transitchicago.com/meetingthemoment/scorecard I've never seen these groupings before. Are they used by the CTA for any other purposes? Does anyone know where I can find more information about them? To make it easier to view, I've also transcribed the information into a Google Sheet. Here’s a link to that table. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WQ7mLVTpp15qHVXY63ZGabN9O_MRo4fbaMpA___wLm4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, curiousgent31385 said: I recently came across these screenshots from CTA's "Meeting the Moment" dashboard from 2022. They show groupings for the agency's bus routes. https://imgur.com/a/ukhLjsB https://www.transitchicago.com/meetingthemoment/scorecard I've never seen these groupings before. Are they used by the CTA for any other purposes? Does anyone know where I can find more information about them? To make it easier to view, I've also transcribed the information into a Google Sheet. Here’s a link to that table. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WQ7mLVTpp15qHVXY63ZGabN9O_MRo4fbaMpA___wLm4 They're as old as Methuselah. For the second time today, the official explanation is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm522 Posted Monday at 01:26 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:26 PM On 2/13/2025 at 10:33 PM, Erin Mishkin Jr. said: That is correct. 77th buses that did not have a new farebox have went to 74th for their installation. I think 74th is now done as I’m on 8512 and it has new farebox. 103rd is last. They are fast with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted Monday at 01:42 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 01:42 PM 14 minutes ago, ajm522 said: I think 74th is now done as I’m on 8512 and it has new farebox. 103rd is last. They are fast with this. They should be, I haven’t seen a 74th bus with an older farebox for a few days. I also expect 74th to fix 1495’s tracker this month as it has not been tracking since last spring. I feel like i see more 103rd buses with new fareboxes rather than old ones now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sht6131 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Have not seen any activity on this site since Tuesday. Do I have issues on my end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, sht6131 said: Have not seen any activity on this site since Tuesday. Do I have issues on my end? Today is just Thursday. Relax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted 8 minutes ago Report Share Posted 8 minutes ago 4 hours ago, sht6131 said: Have not seen any activity on this site since Tuesday. Do I have issues on my end? 2 hours ago, artthouwill said: Today is just Thursday. Relax. Yeah plus we're all waiting to see what's about to shake with this system pick 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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