CTA Bus Garage Rosters

[Chammon129577]

2 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

any updates on 4119 4167 1805 700 701 1629 and 600?

No they still at SS

[YoungBusLover]

On 7/27/2020 at 3:30 AM, YoungBusLover said:

So here's a list of the current series of buses and where they sit in the boneyard.It took roughly an hour to take all the bus numbers down but here we are. Note #600 is the confirmed number series for the proterras for now, it may change but for now they are numbered #600 and up.

#6400's Boneyard (Retired) list as of 7/27/20

#6401,#6406,#6408,#6418,#6425,#6432,#6435,#6446,#6453,#6456,#6460,#6468,#6473,#6497,#6500,#6502,#6516,#6530,#6537,#6554,#6559,#6564,#6573,#6574,#6576,#6577,#6584,#6614,#6621,#6628,#6639,#6642,#6674,#6680,#6692(LTH),#6699(LTH),#6702,#6704,#6711,#6715,#6737(LTH),#6742,#6748,#6778,#6782,#6804,#6806,#6819,#6824,#6826 (LTH),#6832(Accident/Legal hold),#6841,#6842,#6844,#6845,#6863,#6865,#6866,#6868(LTH).

#4000's Boneyard Defunct list as of 7/27/20

#4003,#4006,#4010,#4014,#4017,#4018,#4019,#4020,#4023,#4026,#4027,#4033,#4037,#4049,#4052(?),#4062,#4065,#4068,#4105,#4107,#4108,#4109,#4121,#4134,#4154,#4167 (Retired),#4174 (?),#4177,#4200,#4207

#4300's Boneyard Defunct list as of 7/27/20

#4308,#4320,#4323(Retired),#4332,#4341,#4344,#4357

#1000's Boneyard Defunct list as of 7/27/20

#1016 (LTH),#1125 (Accident/Legal hold),#1245 (LTH), #1305 (Retired)-Fire,#1552(?),#1716 (towed back to boneyard as of 7/26/20) (#1821(Accident/Legal hold), #1883(Accident/Legal hold) ,#1925 (Accident/Legal hold),#1993(Retired)-Fire

#7900's Boneyard Defunct list as of 7/27/20

#7923 (?)(Accident/Legal hold),#7959,#8023(Accident/Legal hold),#8150,#8178,#8229(Accident/Legal hold)

#600's  Boneyard Defunct list as of 7/27/20

#600 Proterra Pilot (LTH)

 

@Mr.NewFlyer1051 #4119(LTH/Accident/Legal hold)  #4167(Retired)  #1805(LTH/Accident/Legal hold) #700(LTH)  #701(LTH)  #1629(Maintenance) and #600 (LTH)

[Shannoncvpi]

2 hours ago, Erin Mishkin Jr. said:

It probably needed maintenance.

Aw ok I was gone say it was just at FG 

[YoungBusLover]

So today I took another stroll through the boneyard today and I came across six #4000's missing there fareboxes but still had there ventra card readers installed even though they seemed to be slightly unhinged. #4006,#4027,#4049,#4062,#4071,#4121 were the six I saw. #600 is gone so it must be on the move back to the mechanic training facility or somewhere else within SS. Some addition have popped up back there though. #4050,#4315,#4357,#4369, #6759 and #7951. #1245 seems to be retired based on parts missing from the engine compartment I can't confirm it though. 

[Shannoncvpi]

1 hour ago, YoungBusLover said:

So today I took another stroll through the boneyard today and I came across six #4000's missing there fareboxes but still had there ventra card readers installed even though they seemed to be slightly unhinged. #4006,#4027,#4049,#4062,#4071,#4121 were the six I saw. #600 is gone so it must be on the move back to the mechanic training facility or somewhere else within SS. Some addition have popped up back there though. #4050,#4315,#4357,#4369, #6759 and #7951. #1245 seems to be retired based on parts missing from the engine compartment I can't confirm it though. 

Dam what's wrong with 1245 tho

[Mr.NewFlyer1051]

2 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

So today I took another stroll through the boneyard today and I came across six #4000's missing there fareboxes but still had there ventra card readers installed even though they seemed to be slightly unhinged. #4006,#4027,#4049,#4062,#4071,#4121 were the six I saw. #600 is gone so it must be on the move back to the mechanic training facility or somewhere else within SS. Some addition have popped up back there though. #4050,#4315,#4357,#4369, #6759 and #7951. #1245 seems to be retired based on parts missing from the engine compartment I can't confirm it though. 

1245 engine defect maybe?

[YoungBusLover]

4 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said:

Dam what's wrong with 1245 tho

 

3 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

1245 engine defect maybe?

I'm not sure but it has been back there a very long time now, it still has its farebox and ventra reader though so only time will tell. I should of took a picture of it. #6832 was hauled off for scrap also forgot to mention that as well. I'm not the one to jump the gun but if those six #4000s dont come back into service then maybe some might start getting retired early depending on there condition because why would CTA keep around artics that have a lot of unknown issues to the general public for this long in the boneyard? If I see the ventra readers gone from those six in the next few weeks then I might have to gear up for a somewhat early retirement list.

[Mr.NewFlyer1051]

1 hour ago, YoungBusLover said:

 

I'm not sure but it has been back there a very long time now, it still has its farebox and ventra reader though so only time will tell. I should of took a picture of it. #6832 was hauled off for scrap also forgot to mention that as well. I'm not the one to jump the gun but if those six #4000s dont come back into service then maybe some might start getting retired early depending on there condition because why would CTA keep around artics that have a lot of unknown issues to the general public for this long in the boneyard? If I see the ventra readers gone from those six in the next few weeks then I might have to gear up for a somewhat early retirement list.

why does SS keep all of the retired novas or all of them waiting to be sent to scrap?

[Mr.NewFlyer1051]

1 hour ago, YoungBusLover said:

 

I'm not sure but it has been back there a very long time now, it still has its farebox and ventra reader though so only time will tell. I should of took a picture of it. #6832 was hauled off for scrap also forgot to mention that as well. I'm not the one to jump the gun but if those six #4000s dont come back into service then maybe some might start getting retired early depending on there condition because why would CTA keep around artics that have a lot of unknown issues to the general public for this long in the boneyard? If I see the ventra readers gone from those six in the next few weeks then I might have to gear up for a somewhat early retirement list.

i would love to keep the bus number that’s on the front of 4323 i wonder if your allowed to take it

[YoungBusLover]

14 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

i would love to keep the bus number that’s on the front of 4323 i wonder if your allowed to take it

You're not allowed to take anything from the boneyard unless there spare parts. 

 

15 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

why does SS keep all of the retired novas or all of them waiting to be sent to scrap?

Scrapping buses and the preperation it takes for them is a lengthy process. A number of factors play a role, I remember when the 5300s and 4400s were going through there retirement and whenever a bus broke down beyond repair it would get prepped for scrap and whatever spare parts that were salvageable got taken out for the rest of the remaining portions of the fleet. In the case of the 6400s there isn't many left back there compared to last year or even years prior. My only guess would be out of the remaining 6400s left in the boneyard are keeping the rest of the rest of the 60 or so left intact if and when they need parts. I dont know if other agencies do what CTA does when it comes bone picking retired buses for parts. 

[Chammon129577]

2 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

You're not allowed to take anything from the boneyard unless there spare parts. 

 

Scrapping buses and the preperation it takes for them is a lengthy process. A number of factors play a role, I remember when the 5300s and 4400s were going through there retirement and whenever a bus broke down beyond repair it would get prepped for scrap and whatever spare parts that were salvageable got taken out for the rest of the remaining portions of the fleet. In the case of the 6400s there isn't many left back there compared to last year or even years prior. My only guess would be out of the remaining 6400s left in the boneyard are keeping the rest of the rest of the 60 or so left intact if and when they need parts. I dont know if other agencies do what CTA does when it comes bone picking retired buses for parts. 

Why 1245 can’t be rebuild its engine 

[Shannoncvpi]

On 8/8/2020 at 10:52 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

why does SS keep all of the retired novas or all of them waiting to be sent to scrap?

They keep them for parts until they are dam near a shell 

[Shannoncvpi]

On 8/9/2020 at 2:04 PM, YoungBusLover said:

You're not allowed to take anything from the boneyard unless there spare parts. 

 

Scrapping buses and the preperation it takes for them is a lengthy process. A number of factors play a role, I remember when the 5300s and 4400s were going through there retirement and whenever a bus broke down beyond repair it would get prepped for scrap and whatever spare parts that were salvageable got taken out for the rest of the remaining portions of the fleet. In the case of the 6400s there isn't many left back there compared to last year or even years prior. My only guess would be out of the remaining 6400s left in the boneyard are keeping the rest of the rest of the 60 or so left intact if and when they need parts. I dont know if other agencies do what CTA does when it comes bone picking retired buses for parts. 

Yea thats what I was saying they become parts buses

[mikeymc77]

Sorry if this was asked elsewhere as I'm in Arizona, why the tarp on 7929?

[Guest]

On 8/8/2020 at 9:41 PM, YoungBusLover said:

 

I'm not sure but it has been back there a very long time now, it still has its farebox and ventra reader though so only time will tell. I should of took a picture of it. #6832 was hauled off for scrap also forgot to mention that as well. I'm not the one to jump the gun but if those six #4000s dont come back into service then maybe some might start getting retired early depending on there condition because why would CTA keep around artics that have a lot of unknown issues to the general public for this long in the boneyard? If I see the ventra readers gone from those six in the next few weeks then I might have to gear up for a somewhat early retirement list.

Iwonder what Flx bus number that is   Fresh Moves had posession of  three Flxibles   One of them was 6127.

[YoungBusLover]

1 hour ago, CTA5750 said:

Iwonder what Flx bus number that is   Fresh Moves had posession of  three Flxibles   One of them was 6127.

I'll check it out today after my run this evening, It was a former bus from Kedzie though.

[YoungBusLover]

8 hours ago, mikeymc77 said:

Sorry if this was asked elsewhere as I'm in Arizona, why the tarp on 7929?

It was involved in a very bad accident which heavily damaged the front end of the bus.

[YoungBusLover]

Made some updates to the SF list not much has changed, I'll try to get into the boneyard later this week to see if those six #4000s have had there fareboxes replaced or anything else removed.

#6400's Southfence list as of 8/17/20

#6400Pilot,#6472,#6474,#6477,#6558(Instruction bus),#6562,#6585(Instruction bus),#6671(Instruction bus),#6696(Instruction bus),#6758(Damaged) #6868,#6871,#6873

#4000's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#4015,#4076,#4091,#4106,#4107

#4300's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#4339

#1000's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#1074,#1185,#1231,#1242,#1288,#1309,#1336,#1391,#1420(Accident),#1423#1432,#1498,#1500,#1505,#1515,#1569,#1677,#1682,#1757,#1795,#1805 (Accident),#1846,#1957 (Accident)

#7900's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#8283,#8327,#8340

#800's  Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#804 (#804 was defunct since late December of 2019 in the boneyard with damage to the drivers side window and front windshield. It has been since repaired and by the looks of it #804 may return to service in the future, keeping my fingers crossed.) 

#5300's Southfence list as of 8/17/20

#5678 (Engine) Credits for the info goes to CTA5750

 

[Chammon129577]

12 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

Made some updates to the SF list not much has changed, I'll try to get into the boneyard later this week to see if those six #4000s have had there fareboxes replaced or anything else removed.

#6400's Southfence list as of 8/17/20

#6400Pilot,#6472,#6474,#6477,#6558(Instruction bus),#6562,#6585(Instruction bus),#6671(Instruction bus),#6696(Instruction bus),#6758(Damaged) #6868,#6871,#6873

#4000's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#4015,#4076,#4091,#4106,#4107

#4300's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#4339

#1000's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#1074,#1185,#1231,#1242,#1288,#1309,#1336,#1391,#1420(Accident),#1423#1432,#1498,#1500,#1505,#1515,#1569,#1677,#1682,#1757,#1795,#1805 (Accident),#1846,#1957 (Accident)

#7900's Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#8283,#8327,#8340

#800's  Southfence Defunct list as of 8/17/20

#804 (#804 was defunct since late December of 2019 in the boneyard with damage to the drivers side window and front windshield. It has been since repaired and by the looks of it #804 may return to service in the future, keeping my fingers crossed.) 

#5300's Southfence list as of 8/17/20

#5678 (Engine) Credits for the info goes to CTA5750

 

Most of them are maintenance 

[Javi78]

Do any of you think NP will ever get 4000s artics back? How did the garages decide which artics go where? With Kenzie and Chicago being so close in proximity, why didn’t Kedzie send it’s artics to Chicago and NP send it’s 4300s to 77th since they aren’t as broken in as the 4000s artics? How do the bus drivers at 77th and Chicago feel about driving artics? 

[Mr.cta85]

12 hours ago, Javi78 said:

Do any of you think NP will ever get 4000s artics back? How did the garages decide which artics go where? With Kenzie and Chicago being so close in proximity, why didn’t Kedzie send it’s artics to Chicago and NP send it’s 4300s to 77th since they aren’t as broken in as the 4000s artics? How do the bus drivers at 77th and Chicago feel about driving artics? 

The operators at 77th feel like any other operator at any garage that have them, they don’t want them lol but like the other operators they just gotta deal with them. Artics not bad tho but I definitely prefer a 40ft any day of the week over a artic that’s for sure and that’s how the majority of operators would feel as well trust me on this ???.

[Shannoncvpi]

18 minutes ago, Mr.cta85 said:

The operators at 77th feel like any other operator at any garage that have them, they don’t want them lol but like the other operators they just gotta deal with them. Artics not bad tho but I definitely prefer a 40ft any day of the week over a artic that’s for sure and that’s how the majority of operators would feel as well trust me on this ???.

I work out of K but I don't mind getting a artic or a 40ft bus I'm still getting paid no matter which 1 I drive & I believe alot of 7 drivers l like the 40footers over the artics cuz most of the routes 7 use the artics on like the 3'4'79& 87th have small streets & alot of twisting & turning 

[YoungBusLover]

1 hour ago, Shannoncvpi said:

I work out of K but I don't mind getting a artic or a 40ft bus I'm still getting paid no matter which 1 I drive & I believe alot of 7 drivers l like the 40footers over the artics cuz most of the routes 7 use the artics on like the 3'4'79& 87th have small streets & alot of twisting & turning 

I hate having them on weekends especially on 87th because after one trip I hardly pick up anyone but meanwhile 79th winds up getting a mixed bag of 60/40 footers and it annoys me.They're fine to operate but man send them to 74th and watch all hell break lose over there especially if they're on Ashland,Western,47th and 63rd. Hell there should be a system where 74th sends there operators to 77th for the AM/PM rush to pull out and pull in artics.It seems pretty far fetched but hey either try that or even better share the routes with 77th.

[artthouwill]

13 minutes ago, YoungBusLover said:

I hate having them on weekends especially on 87th because after one trip I hardly pick up anyone but meanwhile 79th winds up getting a mixed bag of 60/40 footers and it annoys me.They're fine to operate but man send them to 74th and watch all hell break lose over there especially if they're on Ashland,Western,47th and 63rd. Hell there should be a system where 74th sends there operators to 77th for the AM/PM rush to pull out and pull in artics.It seems pretty far fetched but hey either try that or even better share the routes with 77th.

The easiest solution would be to retrifit theme lifts at 74th, but that seemingly won't happen.   I would then propose that 77th and 74th share the u, 9, and 79.  74th can send 49 ft bus on the 8 and 79, and 77th operators can operate artics on all three routes.  Furthermore I would gave NP operate some artics on the 49.

[Shannoncvpi]

2 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

I hate having them on weekends especially on 87th because after one trip I hardly pick up anyone but meanwhile 79th winds up getting a mixed bag of 60/40 footers and it annoys me.They're fine to operate but man send them to 74th and watch all hell break lose over there especially if they're on Ashland,Western,47th and 63rd. Hell there should be a system where 74th sends there operators to 77th for the AM/PM rush to pull out and pull in artics.It seems pretty far fetched but hey either try that or even better share the routes with 77th.

Yea you got got a point bro some of 6 routes need em & they can share the route with 7 since 6 dont got the lifts for artics