artthouwill Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, NewFlyerMCI said: I'll say that there do need to be alternatives to diesel and gas, and our reliance on them needs to be cut gradually, but drastically. It's killing the planet, and the less usage of them, the better. Well, 80% of plane operations are autopilot, so maybe a bit too late on that one. And there's definitely going to be more of a bus for ATC on trains (heck, WMATA was doing just fine with it for years). I agree that fully self-driving cars, buses and trucks shouldn't be the end goal, or widely spread. For however fictional it was, F8 of the Furious showed us the potential dangers of such widespread use of that technology. The most important 20% is still handled by the pilots, which is the takeoff and landing. Even with the 80% Zthe pilots have to input the information into the computer and the pilots can override the computer if there's a glitch. But hackers and cyber warfare is a real thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 53 minutes ago, CTA5750 said: All I can say is "God Help Us"! Seriously! Maybe Im a dinosaur about these things But its what I believe! I know gas prices suck! I understand labor costs and companies bottom line. I get all that.... But at the same time its a job killer! More people will be out of work or working for chump change! Im fine with the airport automated trains. But I wish they would leave it at that. I hate to see mainline trains begin this world of driverless operation. I know BART in SF does that. But they still keep an operator in the cab. I'm a dinosaur too. What I am saying is that we as consumers are just as much to blame as the companies are. What if people chose NOT to use self checkout? What if people didn't shop online? What if no one used GrubHub or UberEats? How many vank branches have closed due to online banking? So in the next generation, if you aren't tech savvy, you won't survive unless you are Amish or in prison. Prison doesn't offer any guarantees of survival. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 Interesting while 3 #600s are currently running, the #700s havent ran for days. I wonder what's up and will they ever migrate to the #66? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 6 hours ago, BusHunter said: Interesting while 3 #600s are currently running, the #700s havent ran for days. I wonder what's up and will they ever migrate to the #66? I think I found your answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, ajay said: I think I found your answer... Oh wow. Looks like they’ll be gone for a little while at new flyer again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.cta85 Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, ajay said: I think I found your answer... 700 is parked at 74th as of right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Mr.cta85 said: 700 is parked at 74th as of right now. It's about time....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 Nicely done video of the Proterras by YouTuber Luke Starkenburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Kevin said: Nicely done video of the Proterras by YouTuber Luke Starkenburg. This a nice ass video but my question is what if the bus dont have tine to charge what if the driver is behind Schedule where they gotta pull back out ove then had runs where for the entire 4 hours I had to just pull in & pull out just go use the bathroom & pull right back out & I hope I be half way to retirement from CPD by 2040 cuz I rather have gas powered buse then a full electric fleet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said: This a nice ass video but my question is what if the bus dont have tine to charge what if the driver is behind Schedule where they gotta pull back out ove then had runs where for the entire 4 hours I had to just pull in & pull out just go use the bathroom & pull right back out & I hope I be half way to retirement from CPD by 2040 cuz I rather have gas powered buse then a full electric fleet Based on the video, it looks like the buses have at least a 273 mile range. Taking the Chicago Ave route as an example, from Austin to Navy Pier is 8.5 miles one way. So even in a scenario where there's no time to charge you should still have plenty of leeway. Also, I don't know how fast CTA's chargers are, but with most electric fast chargers even just a few minutes of charging can add considerable range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Kevin said: Based on the video, it looks like the buses have at least a 273 mile range. Taking the Chicago Ave route as an example, from Austin to Navy Pier is 8.5 miles one way. So even in a scenario where there's no time to charge you should still have plenty of leeway. Also, I don't know how fast CTA's chargers are, but with most electric fast chargers even just a few minutes of charging can add considerable range. Also the #700's were out for 10-12 hours before, so reasonably the buses could work a person's entire shift without charging. The problem is when you want those out for long periods which is possible on the 24 hour routes. But they could always just schedule a jumper bus at night and just let those charge at the terminal for an extended period. Ironically no service has yet been implemented that really needs to use the chargers at the terminals the longest run has been 10 hours. In the future CTA might want to think about not installing chargers at terminals where there is a split shift like the #54A or #206 or where they have buses that only run light hours like a #96. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Kevin said: Based on the video, it looks like the buses have at least a 273 mile range. Taking the Chicago Ave route as an example, from Austin to Navy Pier is 8.5 miles one way. So even in a scenario where there's no time to charge you should still have plenty of leeway. Also, I don't know how fast CTA's chargers are, but with most electric fast chargers even just a few minutes of charging can add considerable range. That's cool af then it's all goid cuz I was like what is 1 of them don't have time to charge on a day like that then the but might die in mid route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 2 hours ago, BusHunter said: Also the #700's were out for 10-12 hours before, so reasonably the buses could work a person's entire shift without charging. The problem is when you want those out for long periods which is possible on the 24 hour routes. But they could always just schedule a jumper bus at night and just let those charge at the terminal for an extended period. Ironically no service has yet been implemented that really needs to use the chargers at the terminals the longest run has been 10 hours. In the future CTA might want to think about not installing chargers at terminals where there is a split shift like the #54A or #206 or where they have buses that only run light hours like a #96. What do you mean by split shift? As in no midday service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, NewFlyerMCI said: What do you mean by split shift? As in no midday service? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted May 9, 2021 Report Share Posted May 9, 2021 28 minutes ago, NewFlyerMCI said: What do you mean by split shift? As in no midday service? Split shift is a AM & a PM run I love getting a split shift cuz after I get off at 9 I can go ship off the parts ive sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorTank1229 Posted May 12, 2021 Report Share Posted May 12, 2021 On the #603 now, running on #66 - Chicago. Feels different from riding on a bus like a Nova or New Flyer. ? 64253797171__4533A3EE-D093-4B2E-9E68-5093D57535C6.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 18 hours ago, TaylorTank1229 said: On the #603 now, running on #66 - Chicago. Feels different from riding on a bus like a Nova or New Flyer. ? 64253797171__4533A3EE-D093-4B2E-9E68-5093D57535C6.MOV Yeah cause you can hear yourself think without the fax machine noises of a 4000/4300. I’ve been seeing them while Doordashing in streeterville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 I wonder when the #600s will start running on the weekend??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted June 12, 2021 Report Share Posted June 12, 2021 Well I finally rode a #600 today and the review I would give it is that it's pretty good. I think it has the best ac at cta, surprising for an electric bus but this is my first Proterra ride. Where it's really smart is the vents can be adjusted to blow right on you like a car does. The vents are made to blow into the center of the bus versus down the window side. Kudos to Proterra. If only Novabus were this smart!! ? I'm not crazy about the crazy swept back seats but thats not Proterras fault. seems that is the style nowadays. Hope everyone is not going to have a bad back riding these. It has these crazy reverse seats like the #6400s on both sides of the aisle in the rear and a single transverse seats in the rear. The rear is going to have to take some getting used to. The one thing I dont like about the bus is when it kneels, it takes about 9-10 seconds to retract. That needs improvement. While these buses take off like the wind I cant help but wonder how 9-10 seconds a stop will screw around with the schedule. My operator was opening the doors himself so maybe people are still confused. There is no sign saying touch here. They seem more concerned about what they dont want you to touch (the circular poles that twist when the exit door opens. It doesnt tyrn but a quarter turn. I dont think anyone would get too hurt on it. At one stop the stop button on the poles got one rider into trouble he pressed where it said stop instead of the button. At a 90 degree angle you cant see the button and his stop got passed up. He told the operator he pressed the stop but I saw how he thought he did but he didnt. They should just put the old standard stop requested buttons, so everyone is not so confused. Overall I'd give the bus a 7. It could get a 9 if they solved the two issues and a 10 if they changed the seats. But all those issues are not proterra problems, so I'd say proterra gets an A-. Cta just needs some new suppliers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted June 26, 2021 Report Share Posted June 26, 2021 There's a delivery of #600s sitting along the south fence, I've counted 3 so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 So far these two are the only ones at SS right now I'm not sure if anymore were delivered but it's good to see the newest model at the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: So far these two are the only ones at SS right now I'm not sure if anymore were delivered but it's good to see the newest model at the garage. They are not demonstrators? They look like they have the cta blue colored seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 hours ago, BusHunter said: They are not demonstrators? They look like they have the cta blue colored seats. Yeah these are the current ZX5 models, the demonstration model was at SS earlier this spring.(Photos shown below) Everything is already assembled towards CTAs specifications, test trials and training on the newer model will take place with mechanics first I'd assume and then trickle down throughout the rest of the dept leading up to the operators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted July 2, 2021 Report Share Posted July 2, 2021 3 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: Yeah these are the current ZX5 models, the demonstration model was at SS earlier this spring.(Photos shown below) Everything is already assembled towards CTAs specifications, test trials and training on the newer model will take place with mechanics first I'd assume and then trickle down throughout the rest of the dept leading up to the operators. Yeah cause the press reports are saying the final 17 are coming spring 2022. Its weird though the same bus order will have 2 different models. I just thought Proterra heard about the 7 million grant cta got for electric buses (on top of the 23 that was presently on order) and they wanted to say remember us. Not that cta seems interested in nf's electrics anyway. #700 must have really put a sour taste in their mouth. As far as this model, I like the tailights, it reminds me of the 60s GM design they had on the 100s. I always thought that was so cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted July 15, 2021 Report Share Posted July 15, 2021 https://whyy.org/articles/septas-cracking-battery-buses-raise-questions-about-the-future-of-electric-transit/ I've been wondering what had happened to these buses and I've seen this now. Hopefully this won't be an issue for CTA's proterras, since they have the same model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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