WCR Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: 6031-32???? What buses are those? Flxibles, I think he meant he saw them several years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: 6031-32???? What buses are those? Those where the flex that where knocked off feb 7 2010 but they was sitting on the back gate at K then 32 left & 31 stayed to like late 12-13 this was way before I became more of a bus enthusiast also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Drove around K & here is proof that their is not 3 800's sitting on K back gate. I see no buses on the back gate or even in the lot or yet in the front & I have good eye sight or wouldn't have served in the Marines but anyways back to the buses I see no 8' nowhere yet alone 3 800's at K so what you are saying is unfound evidence is broham VID_20191203_090835052.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 804 back at K its on the 82 today it was on its way to Kimball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted December 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 No need to rub it in. Just Saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 7 hours ago, ajay said: No need to rub it in. Just Saying. You took long to respond just to come up with a salty response? No one cares anymore. The conversation already ended. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 12, 2019 Report Share Posted December 12, 2019 15 hours ago, ajay said: No need to rub it in. Just Saying. Not rubbing it in just I proved that there is not 3 800's at K & showed 804 is the only 1 still in service but you took long too reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 8:52 PM, Shannon CVPI said: Quick question do anybody know why CTA retired all of the 900's & all but one of the 800's so early 800-809 and 900-909 were purchased as test buses during the time that they purchased and took delivery of 1000-2029. At that time, CTA was running a test on which hybrid bus technology worked best on Chicago streets and could survive Chicago's sometimes brutal winter conditions better. The two choices were parallel hybrids (800-809) and series (900-909). CTA liked the parallel drive hybrids' performance more. So it's not much of a surprise that the next purchase of hybrid buses after that that CTA had sayso on the specs, NF artics 4000-4207 ended up being parallel drive hybrids. I don't count 4300-4332 out of the 4300s purchase, because the 4300s were purchased as part of a piggyback deal CTA made to purchase part of options originally meant for the Seattle area's King County Metro and therefore probably wouldn't have had much say on engine specs if any. Also because 800-809 and 900-909 were considered as test buses, they weren't as bound by the 12 year minimum rule that 1000-2029 are bound by. That's why 900-909 were able to be retired and sold off for scrap when those buses hadn't even reached ten years of service. CTA could have retired them at any time after the test on their technologies were done. CTA decided to keep them around for a while though, and the maintenance folks at Kedzie used their expertise to help the 900s in service for eight years and the 800s for thirteen and counting through the survival of now lone wolf 804. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 21, 2019 Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 5 hours ago, jajuan said: 800-809 and 900-909 were purchased as test buses during the time that they purchased and took delivery of 1000-2029. At that time, CTA was running a test on which hybrid bus technology worked best on Chicago streets and could survive Chicago's sometimes brutal winter conditions better. The two choices were parallel hybrids (800-809) and series (900-909). CTA liked the parallel drive hybrids' performance more. So it's not much of a surprise that the next purchase of hybrid buses after that that CTA had sayso on the specs, NF artics 4000-4207 ended up being parallel drive hybrids. I don't count 4300-4332 out of the 4300s purchase, because the 4300s were purchased as part of a piggyback deal CTA made to purchase part of options originally meant for the Seattle area's King County Metro and therefore probably wouldn't have had much say on engine specs if any. Also because 800-809 and 900-909 were considered as test buses, they weren't as bound by the 12 year minimum rule that 1000-2029 are bound by. That's why 900-909 were able to be retired and sold off for scrap when those buses hadn't even reached ten years of service. CTA could have retired them at any time after the test on their technologies were done. CTA decided to keep them around for a while though, and the maintenance folks at Kedzie used their expertise to help the 900s in service for eight years and the 800s for thirteen and counting through the survival of now lone wolf 804. Aw ok bet thanks for putting me on game about that broham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, jajuan said: 800-809 and 900-909 were purchased as test buses during the time that they purchased and took delivery of 1000-2029. At that time, CTA was running a test on which hybrid bus technology worked best on Chicago streets and could survive Chicago's sometimes brutal winter conditions better. The two choices were parallel hybrids (800-809) and series (900-909). CTA liked the parallel drive hybrids' performance more. So it's not much of a surprise that the next purchase of hybrid buses after that that CTA had sayso on the specs, NF artics 4000-4207 ended up being parallel drive hybrids. I don't count 4300-4332 out of the 4300s purchase, because the 4300s were purchased as part of a piggyback deal CTA made to purchase part of options originally meant for the Seattle area's King County Metro and therefore probably wouldn't have had much say on engine specs if any. Also because 800-809 and 900-909 were considered as test buses, they weren't as bound by the 12 year minimum rule that 1000-2029 are bound by. That's why 900-909 were able to be retired and sold off for scrap when those buses hadn't even reached ten years of service. CTA could have retired them at any time after the test on their technologies were done. CTA decided to keep them around for a while though, and the maintenance folks at Kedzie used their expertise to help the 900s in service for eight years and the 800s for thirteen and counting through the survival of now lone wolf 804. Wait the 4300 are series? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Sam92 said: Wait the 4300 are series? Well our forum leader Kevin and the forum moderators considered them so when drafting the list of all more modern CTA bus types and models that have been and currently still are in revenue service.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 19 hours ago, jajuan said: 800-809 and 900-909 were purchased as test buses during the time that they purchased and took delivery of 1000-2029. At that time, CTA was running a test on which hybrid bus technology worked best on Chicago streets and could survive Chicago's sometimes brutal winter conditions better. The two choices were parallel hybrids (800-809) and series (900-909). CTA liked the parallel drive hybrids' performance more. So it's not much of a surprise that the next purchase of hybrid buses after that that CTA had sayso on the specs, NF artics 4000-4207 ended up being parallel drive hybrids. I don't count 4300-4332 out of the 4300s purchase, because the 4300s were purchased as part of a piggyback deal CTA made to purchase part of options originally meant for the Seattle area's King County Metro and therefore probably wouldn't have had much say on engine specs if any. Also because 800-809 and 900-909 were considered as test buses, they weren't as bound by the 12 year minimum rule that 1000-2029 are bound by. That's why 900-909 were able to be retired and sold off for scrap when those buses hadn't even reached ten years of service. CTA could have retired them at any time after the test on their technologies were done. CTA decided to keep them around for a while though, and the maintenance folks at Kedzie used their expertise to help the 900s in service for eight years and the 800s for thirteen and counting through the survival of now lone wolf 804. & Yea I heard that 900's was kinda difficult to keep up like getting parts was dam near hard after ISE went out of business & I think with 804 CTA probably like that bus was in better shape then the rest of the 800's so they kept it & gone continue to use it for a while but it stay going to SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted December 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Don't take my word on it but is this 804 at the boneyard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, ajay said: Don't take my word on it but is this 804 at the boneyard? The number looks like its 804. They took it to SS and then brought it back to K last time. Most likely they're cannibalizing the buses at SS for parts to keep 804 running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajuan Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 12:58 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: The number looks like its 804. They took it to SS and then brought it back to K last time. Most likely they're cannibalizing the buses at SS for parts to keep 804 running. Right. 804 has been in that part of the lot before only to return to K too many times to say for sure this is finally it for this lone wolf DE40LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, jajuan said: Right. 804 has been in that part of the lot before only to return to K too many times to say for sure this is finally it for this lone wolf DE40LF. I doubt it 804 bounces back & forth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 3 hours ago, jajuan said: Right. 804 has been in that part of the lot before only to return to K too many times to say for sure this is finally it for this lone wolf DE40LF. 804 is toward the front end of the boneyard so they probably put it there waiting for maintenance it should be back within the week or next week hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: 804 is toward the front end of the boneyard so they probably put it there waiting for maintenance it should be back within the week or next week hopefully Somebody will see it when it comes back it stays at SS for some work tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted January 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 Well...there goes all of the DE40LFs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted January 9, 2020 Report Share Posted January 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, ajay said: Well...there goes all of the DE40LFs 804 still in service so all but 1 is retired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 12 hours ago, Shannon CVPI said: 804 still in service so all but 1 is retired Wikipedia isn't that reliable of a source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon CVPI Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: Wikipedia isn't that reliable of a source. I know it's not learned that back in 09 when my 8th grade teacher told us that people can get on there & edit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 8 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: Wikipedia isn't that reliable of a source. Good thing that's not Wikipedia then. And typically, CPTDB tends to be fairly reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, NewFlyerMCI said: Good thing that's not Wikipedia then. And typically, CPTDB tends to be fairly reliable Well I'll take a stroll inside the boneyard today after my tripper this afternoon, I have a feeling it has been moved since the last photo was posted of it, I have a real concern about the defunct 4000's still sitting back there though, some haven't been moved since late October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erin Mishkin Jr. Posted January 10, 2020 Report Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, NewFlyerMCI said: Good thing that's not Wikipedia then. And typically, CPTDB tends to be fairly reliable CPTDB is usually reliable, but they didn't fix the Pace site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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