WCR Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, andrethebusman said: 700-701 back as of 6/19, currently 79 6400s active Source? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, andrethebusman said: 700-701 back as of 6/19, currently 79 6400s active If 700-701 have been back since June, why haven't they been in service? I'd love to know where you're getting this from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, andrethebusman said: 700-701 back as of 6/19, currently 79 6400s active 700-701 are back? Didn’t 700 have a fire and why aren’t they on tracker and there’s is 64 6400’s active as per what the roster says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 hours ago, andrethebusman said: 700-701 back as of 6/19, currently 79 6400s active So were they both just magically sent into storage at south shops after being sent and returned from New Flyer? or have they been hiding at the training facility for several months just to be put back on the active roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigofoundue74 Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Yep #700 had a fire. Here is a pic. (credits to WCR <?>) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, indigofoundue74 said: Yep #700 had a fire. Here is a pic. (credits to WCR <?>) Indeed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, indigofoundue74 said: Yep #700 had a fire. Here is a pic. (credits to WCR <?>) But since when is 700-701 back tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indigofoundue74 Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 #700 is gone, and #701 will probably be stored in good condition in case of another usage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, indigofoundue74 said: #700 is gone, and #701 will probably be stored in good condition in case of another usage? @andrethebusman works for CTA so he knows all the info but if 700 is back then that’s shocking and where did 701 go I heard it went out of state somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: @andrethebusman works for CTA so he knows all the info but if 700 is back then that’s shocking and where did 701 go I heard it went out of state somewhere Both were shipped back to NIFL for rebuilding. Not in service, assume at S Shops somewhere (no, I don’t work for CTA any more, but I do still have friends in high places) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, andrethebusman said: Both were shipped back to NIFL for rebuilding. Not in service, assume at S Shops somewhere (no, I don’t work for CTA any more, but I do still have friends in high places) 19 hours ago, YoungBusLover said: So were they both just magically sent into storage at south shops after being sent and returned from New Flyer? or have they been hiding at the training facility for several months just to be put back on the active roster? Ahh that makes sense then, I wonder if south shops or the training facility for mechanics is the final destination for one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, andrethebusman said: Both were shipped back to NIFL for rebuilding. Not in service, assume at S Shops somewhere (no, I don’t work for CTA any more, but I do still have friends in high places) Well someone on here should bust a whole mission to SS and see if they might be on the sides somewhere or back in the junk yard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: Well someone on here should bust a whole mission to SS and see if they might be on the sides somewhere or back in the junk yard If they were returned from NIFL to south shops they would keep them in house for mechanics to work on and to learn of any upgrades made to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 Rebuilt with new rechargers, probably all new electrical system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, andrethebusman said: Rebuilt with new rechargers, probably all new electrical system Compatible with Proterra chargers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 I would imagine. Why bother otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, chicagocubs6323 said: Compatible with Proterra chargers? 4 hours ago, andrethebusman said: I would imagine. Why bother otherwise? If this is the case, maybe that's one reason they have not entered service yet, as the Proterra chargers are not ready. However, if I recall correctly, weren't the XE40s in a longer-distance configuration as opposed to the Proterras on order which are supposed to have a shorter-range and charge at each terminal? How will this work with the Flyers? Perhaps they were converted to shorter range? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, WCR said: If this is the case, maybe that's one reason they have not entered service yet, as the Proterra chargers are not ready. However, if I recall correctly, weren't the XE40s in a longer-distance configuration as opposed to the Proterras on order which are supposed to have a shorter-range and charge at each terminal? How will this work with the Flyers? Perhaps they were converted to shorter range? I mean, they don't have to be shorter range. Maybe it can do a round trip and then charge. If XE40s lasted longer with a better longer lasting battery, why did CTA order buses that aren't electrically efficient? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, WCR said: If this is the case, maybe that's one reason they have not entered service yet, as the Proterra chargers are not ready. However, if I recall correctly, weren't the XE40s in a longer-distance configuration as opposed to the Proterras on order which are supposed to have a shorter-range and charge at each terminal? How will this work with the Flyers? Perhaps they were converted to shorter range? I don't think chargers are necessarily related to the bus manufacturer. Just like there aren't New Flyer engines or transmissions, Novabus engines or Transmissions. Whoever makes these chargers, bus manufacturers have to make sure their components and chargers are compatible. The charging stations have to work for ANY and ALL CTA electric buses, be it New Flyers or Proterras or whoever else builds one for CTA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, chicagocubs6323 said: I mean, they don't have to be shorter range. Maybe it can do a round trip and then charge. If XE40s lasted longer with a better longer lasting battery, why did CTA order buses that aren't electrically efficient? The Proterras aren't necessarily less efficient, they just operate differently, as they only take ~10min to charge between runs. If someone could refresh my memory as to the specs of the Flyers (range and charging time) that would be great, but if I recall correctly they were able to last (close to) an entire rush period(?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCR Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, artthouwill said: I don't think chargers are necessarily related to the bus manufacturer. Just like there aren't New Flyer engines or transmissions, Novabus engines or Transmissions. Whoever makes these chargers, bus manufacturers have to make sure their components and chargers are compatible. The charging stations have to work for ANY and ALL CTA electric buses, be it New Flyers or Proterras or whoever else builds one for CTA. Charger compatibility was one worry I had about eventually having an all electric fleet, thanks for clearing that up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 hours ago, andrethebusman said: Both were shipped back to NIFL for rebuilding. Not in service, assume at S Shops somewhere (no, I don’t work for CTA any more, but I do still have friends in high places) Do you know what’s up with 8343-8349 haven’t been in service for a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBusLover Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: Do you know what’s up with 8343-8349 haven’t been in service for a while They have,as you posted earlier this past Wednesday of #8343 being in service without its tracker working properly. I myself have seen a few of them out with and without functioning trackers (#8345,#8348 and #8349) along with a few new flyers recently, could be a number of factors in regards to that but to say they haven't been in service for a while is a bit of an exaggeration. I don't want to over speculate but could #8325-#8349 have a different setup than of its counter parts #7900-#8324? Could the glen be holding out for possible moves to 103rd? Maybe every driver at the glen hasn't received training on them that we know of . Could be a number of factors but if anyone that keeps in touch with drivers or reps from the glen would of said something by now about it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 Anyone happen to know the new arrangement for #31? Before they pulled off the #2 at the end of rush but now that can't happen. Maybe an interline with the #1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/4/2019 at 1:08 PM, artthouwill said: I remember the 22A and the 36A State. I'm pretty sure there was a 50A (now 48) South Damen too. ? I rode the 50A South Damen to Lindblom Tech various times between 1968 and 1972. One winter day I boarded a 1950s era Flxible Twin Coach propane bus [working #50A at 87th] which felt colder inside than it was outside. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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