Bflomike Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Close. I had just gotten off at old willow. On another note I'm really glad to see NW getting them and I seem to have really good luck on catching them. In recent weeks I've been getting more 63-6400's than Orion VI's. I ride the 208 & 250 the most, of the pace routes I do ride, and it works out well for me. I honestly get off of Orion's with headaches some of their suspensions are so bad. I normally am nostalgic with transit vehicles. I like when I catch rides on older equipment because I never know how many more chances I'll get. But that is not the case here. Keep those 6400's coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 .... I honestly get off of Orion's with headaches some of their suspensions are so bad. .... Apparently always the case, as I was riding one with someone complaining about it about 11-12 years ago. As Pace pointed out then, they were $10,000/bus cheaper than the 1999 NABIs, which isn't a hell of an endorsement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Apparently always the case, as I was riding one with someone complaining about it about 11-12 years ago. As Pace pointed out then, they were $10,000/bus cheaper than the 1999 NABIs, which isn't a hell of an endorsement. Perhaps the answer is obvious (thinking too much into it), but they should've went with the Orion V had we'd known the VI would've been this problematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Perhaps the answer is obvious (thinking too much into it), but they should've went with the Orion V had we'd known the VI would've been this problematic. By that time, pretty much every TA (except NJ) had given up on high floor buses, and the spec was undoubtedly for low floor ones. The Orion VII was developed basically because Toronto determined that the VI was not suitable for their use. If one wants to speculate about anything, it is why Pace stayed with Orion Is when Vs were available in the early 90s. As I indicated, $10,000 off for a bus that did last at least 12 years probably was a good deal as far as Pace was concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bflomike Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'm on 6417 as I write this. EB on the 250. I've also seen 6416 in person at least twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 6418 on WebWatch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I saw #6411 working route 215 at the Howard L a few days ago. Please pardon the old cellphone pics! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusHunter Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nw does the #215? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garmon757 Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I saw #6411 working route 215 at the Howard L a few days ago. IMG_1493.jpg Please pardon the old cellphone pics! Nice shots gene!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nw does the #215? Sunday only, since NS is closed. Note the 7 run number (6 on Saturday, 7 on Sunday). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACE NORTHWEST Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Sunday only, since NS is closed. Note the 7 run number (6 on Saturday, 7 on Sunday). NW also does it on Saturday nights after 9 PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Thanks for the complement Garmon. Small note: I have seen Orion VIs working #215 but only once in a blue moon. I can't remember the exact day I took the pics but I am certain it was not a Sunday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 ... I can't remember the exact day I took the pics but I am certain it was not a Sunday. Somehow, you would have to explain the evidence (including the 7-- run number and it being a NW bus) otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrabs74 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Sunday only, since NS is closed. Note the 7 run number (6 on Saturday, 7 on Sunday). Just out of curiosity, how does PACE identify other runs? And are the 6-run/7-run numbers across all garages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just out of curiosity, how does PACE identify other runs? And are the 6-run/7-run numbers across all garages? trainman went through that before. Garages are not identified. IIRC, weekday ones are 1 morning, 2 afternoon, 3 split, 4 morning part time, 5 afternoon part time. The more recent mysterious thing is that some run boxes show stuff like 307A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Just out of curiosity, how does PACE identify other runs? And are the 6-run/7-run numbers across all garages? To answer the second question, 6 and 700 runs are applied through all garages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneking7320 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Somehow, you would have to explain the evidence (including the 7-- run number and it being a NW bus) otherwise. How about this: I checked iPhoto [in my mac] and noted that the date of the photo was 11/27/2014. Does Pace use the "7" code on holidays? 112714 was Thanksgiving Day this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 How about this: I checked iPhoto [in my mac] and noted that the date of the photo was 11/27/2014. Does Pace use the "7" code on holidays? 112714 was Thanksgiving Day this year. That'll do it. According to the schedule, it is the rare north suburban route running on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Webwatch reflects 6419 and 6420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 That'll do it. According to the schedule, it is the rare north suburban route running on Thanksgiving and Christmas. I'll check the books but 215/290 usually interline on Sundays. I don't know if that's the case nowadays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrethebusman Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 trainman went through that before. Garages are not identified. IIRC, weekday ones are 1 morning, 2 afternoon, 3 split, 4 morning part time, 5 afternoon part time. The more recent mysterious thing is that some run boxes show stuff like 307A.This appears to designate first or second half of a swing. For instance, there is a "316B" every PM rush on 215. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetroShadow Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 I'll check the books but 215/290 usually interline on Sundays. I don't know if that's the case nowadays... To follow up: the Saturday evening 215 NW run is from the 208; and Sundays are isolated (a couple of runs are deadheads to the 270). I don't know where I thought of a NW interlink like this existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 To follow up: the Saturday evening 215 NW run is from the 208; and Sundays are isolated (a couple of runs are deadheads to the 270). I don't know where I thought of a NW interlink like this existed. Could have been done at Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman8119 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 The 1 through 7 codes do apply to all garages. Busjack had it as I stated earlier. 1 is morning 2 is afternoon 3 is split 4 is am piece (often includes school trippers) 5 is pm piece (often includes school trippers) 6 is Saturday 7 is Sunday/Holiday the A-B is something new 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesi2282 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 A/B seems to be a North Shore thing for their 300 split runs, they designate the AM half as "A" and PM half as "B". Haven't noticed this practice at other divisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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