7000-series - Delivery & Updates

[artthouwill]

2 hours ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

And this was taken at the CRRC plant in China.  This came out months ago

I wonder if the Blue end caps will stay?  They bring life to the cars.  I hope they do, but I don't think it will happen. 

[MTRSP1900-CTA3200]

4 hours ago, WCR said:

This new photo of the 7000s has surfaced (via Railway Gazette). More details are visible, such as the side panels having 10 ribs (as opposed to 13 thinner ones on 5000s). Run number display box is on the left side like on the 3200s and 5000s. Expect these testing on CTA rails real soon!

Also the lime green "diaper covers", since they can't couple electrically with the 5000s. Interesting to see that they put extenders on the third rail shoes to adapt the CTA trolley block assembly for the CRRC test track third rail.

I noticed that the speaker where the horns on CTA railcars are placed looks different than the ones previously used. I wonder if it will sound any different than the current fleet. I remember when the 5000s were arriving their speaker horns were noticeably higher pitched than the horns on the High Performance cars, but now they sound similar.

[NewFlyerMCI]

4 hours ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said:

Also the lime green "diaper covers", since they can't couple electrically with the 5000s. Interesting to see that they put extenders on the third rail shoes to adapt the CTA trolley block assembly for the CRRC test track third rail.

I noticed that the speaker where the horns on CTA railcars are placed looks different than the ones previously used. I wonder if it will sound any different than the current fleet. I remember when the 5000s were arriving their speaker horns were noticeably higher pitched than the horns on the High Performance cars, but now they sound similar.

What are (the) High Performance cars?

[Anthony Devera]

2 hours ago, NewFlyerMCI said:

What are (the) High Performance cars?

The High Performance cars are the series starting with the 2000s and ending with the 3200s. They can be electrically coupled together.

[chicagocubs6323]

8 hours ago, artthouwill said:

I wonder if the Blue end caps will stay?  They bring life to the cars.  I hope they do, but I don't think it will happen. 

You guys really overthink.  The renderings had blue on the end caps so obviously this is permanent.  I'm glad the color on the cars are coming back though.  I would love to see another Chicago Flag wrapped train and have that stay permanent.  But that's just my opinion.

[WCR]

12 hours ago, chicagocubs6323 said:

And this was taken at the CRRC plant in China.  This came out months ago

No one had posted close-ups of the cars yet so I figured why not.

When and why were they in China?

[NewFlyerMCI]

1 hour ago, WCR said:

No one had posted close-ups of the cars yet so I figured why not.

When and why were they in China?

The why is probably because CRRC is the manufacturer

[chicagocubs6323]

1 hour ago, WCR said:

No one had posted close-ups of the cars yet so I figured why not.

When and why were they in China?

I believe those were built in China for troubleshooting purposes.  

[MTRSP1900-CTA3200]

23 hours ago, NewFlyerMCI said:

What are (the) High Performance cars?

Anthony already answered, but I’ll add a little more detail. The High Performance family cars contain more refinements to car systems than the previous 6000 series. Both used DC motors, but the HP cars motors were more refined to be less jerky than previous cars (although by today’s standards they are relatively jerky). They also introduced air conditioning and fluorescent lighting into production cars. Since the propulsion systems were more advanced than the ones on the 6000s, they can only mechanically couple to them, in case a 6000 series set brakes down and needs a push, or vice versa. They cannot electrically couple to the 6000s (supposedly because they have more pins in the electric coupler), and today, they cannot electrically couple to the 5000s, only mechanically.

20 hours ago, Anthony Devera said:

The High Performance cars are the series starting with the 2000s and ending with the 3200s. They can be electrically coupled together.

Correct. At one point there was an 8 car set of almost the whole family from the 2200s to the 3200s put together for a charter. While they do all work together, slight variations of equipment -such as the motors- over the years created handling differences between the cars, but since they are generally not mixed with the exception of the Brown Line and formerly the Blue Line, this isn’t really an issue.

[Reggie Redd]

Have they started testing the railcars on cta rails and ifso which line and has anybody got pictures of the interior of the cars

[NewFlyerMCI]

59 minutes ago, Reggie Redd said:

Have they started testing the railcars on cta rails and ifso which line and has anybody got pictures of the interior of the cars

No, so by extension no, and as far as I'm aware, I haven't seen any

[rvwnsd]

On 1/27/2020 at 6:54 AM, artthouwill said:

I wonder if the Blue end caps will stay?  They bring life to the cars.  I hope they do, but I don't think it will happen. 

 

On 12/12/2019 at 10:34 AM, WCR said:

Testing has begun! Here's car 7006 with (presumably) its mate 7005 on the test tracks outside CRRC in Hegewisch. Sorry about the quality, wanted to get it posted here asap.

 

If the test cars are any indication, the end caps are staying.

[artthouwill]

On 1/27/2020 at 5:28 AM, chicagocubs6323 said:

And this was taken at the CRRC plant in China.  This came out months ago

I wonder if the Blue end caps will stay?  They bring life to the cars.  I hope they do, but I don't think it will happen. 

On 1/27/2020 at 4:31 PM, chicagocubs6323 said:

You guys really overthink.  The renderings had blue on the end caps so obviously this is permanent.  I'm glad the color on the cars are coming back though.  I would love to see another Chicago Flag wrapped train and have that stay permanent.  But that's just my opinion.

 

6 hours ago, rvwnsd said:

 

 

If the test cars are any indication, the end caps are staying.

I remember the last 5000s came with blue wrapped end caps but did not stay once testing was completed.   Hopefully these remain.

[chicagocubs6323]

1 hour ago, artthouwill said:

 

 

I remember the last 5000s came with blue wrapped end caps but did not stay once testing was completed.   Hopefully these remain.

They didn't come with that wrap when delivered.  That was only a promo wrap on I believe 5009-10.  The renderings of the 5000 series cars do not show the promo scheme on the cars.

[Javi78]

When do you think the 7000s will start revenue service? As a brown line rider I’m excited to see newer series cars on the brown line. The 3200s have been on the brown line my whole life, it would be different seeing newer cars on there. 

[Mr.NewFlyer1051]

3 minutes ago, Javi78 said:

When do you think the 7000s will start revenue service? As a brown line rider I’m excited to see newer series cars on the brown line. The 3200s have been on the brown line my whole life, it would be different seeing newer cars on there. 

you got newer cars lmfao......2600’s????

[Javi78]

I just thought about if the CTA got all 846 7000s, it would be smarter fleet wise to flip the 5000s, put the 5000s on the orange, brown and blue lines and make red, purple, yellow, pink and green 7000s. With 846 7000s, that would be 400 cars on the blue line, I don’t really think orange and brown needs nor can store 446 cars between those two lines. Send the 7000s to red that’s 440 cars on red, 100 cars on purple, 8 cars on yellow, then put like 170 cars on the green line then 128 cars on the pink line. That’s green and pink running 8 car trains during rush periods. There’s enough 5000s between blue, orange and brown to fulfill their fleets.

[John7]

The orange and blue lines are getting the 7000 series either way since those cars are specially designed to operate on routes that go to the airport. It makes no sense why the orange and blue lines would get the 5000 series.

[artthouwill]

7 hours ago, Javi78 said:

I just thought about if the CTA got all 846 7000s, it would be smarter fleet wise to flip the 5000s, put the 5000s on the orange, brown and blue lines and make red, purple, yellow, pink and green 7000s. With 846 7000s, that would be 400 cars on the blue line, I don’t really think orange and brown needs nor can store 446 cars between those two lines. Send the 7000s to red that’s 440 cars on red, 100 cars on purple, 8 cars on yellow, then put like 170 cars on the green line then 128 cars on the pink line. That’s green and pink running 8 car trains during rush periods. There’s enough 5000s between blue, orange and brown to fulfill their fleets.

All 846 wouldn't come at once

 So far we know 400 will come.  I don't remember how many options CTA has on this contract.   By not math, CTA would need 650 cars to cover the Brown,  Orange,  and Blue lines .  Perhaps they take the rest and put them on the Green and Pink Lines so their 5000s can go to Red to cover the yet to be Red Line extension to 130th.

 

[NewFlyerMCI]

8 hours ago, Javi78 said:

I just thought about if the CTA got all 846 7000s, it would be smarter fleet wise to flip the 5000s, put the 5000s on the orange, brown and blue lines and make red, purple, yellow, pink and green 7000s. With 846 7000s, that would be 400 cars on the blue line, I don’t really think orange and brown needs nor can store 446 cars between those two lines. Send the 7000s to red that’s 440 cars on red, 100 cars on purple, 8 cars on yellow, then put like 170 cars on the green line then 128 cars on the pink line. That’s green and pink running 8 car trains during rush periods. There’s enough 5000s between blue, orange and brown to fulfill their fleets.

Blue Line probably won't have had the necessary work done to support 5000s across the entire line (specifically the Congress branch)

[BusHunter]

7 hours ago, NewFlyerMCI said:

Blue Line probably won't have had the necessary work done to support 5000s across the entire line (specifically the Congress branch)

Your probably right. But the blue will probably want to hold on to the 3200s as long as it can. The stage is being set for the brown and orange line to get upgraded cars first. 5000 or 7000s only heaven knows. 

[Guest]

I wouldnt mind seeing the Blue with mostly 3200s and some 7000s   I hope thats what ends up happening  I love the 3200s!!! Its been over a year now since their arrival on the Blue. I still tend to catch more 2600s than 3200 trains when I ride. But thats ok!  The 2600s are extremely dirty smelly and filthy. They need to be gone soon!!!  

[Guest]

On 1/28/2020 at 11:30 PM, rvwnsd said:

 

 

If the test cars are any indication, the end caps are staying.

They remind me of the 2000s  LOL!

[WCR]

5 hours ago, CTA5750 said:

I wouldnt mind seeing the Blue with mostly 3200s and some 7000s   I hope thats what ends up happening  I love the 3200s!!! Its been over a year now since their arrival on the Blue. I still tend to catch more 2600s than 3200 trains when I ride. But thats ok!  The 2600s are extremely dirty smelly and filthy. They need to be gone soon!!!  

If cars retired just because they're filthy most of the red line's 5000s would be gone by now 

[chicagocubs6323]

10 hours ago, CTA5750 said:

I wouldnt mind seeing the Blue with mostly 3200s and some 7000s   I hope thats what ends up happening  I love the 3200s!!! Its been over a year now since their arrival on the Blue. I still tend to catch more 2600s than 3200 trains when I ride. But thats ok!  The 2600s are extremely dirty smelly and filthy. They need to be gone soon!!!  

There's something called cleaning.  And it makes the train look "new".  But yes sure.... let's scrap every dirty train on the Pink, Blue, Orange, Brown, Yellow, Purple, Red, and Green Lines and we'll be left with NOTHING!  Be grateful you have fast & reliable train service.  

It's WINTER.  Trains getting dirty is normal and it's a very easy fix.  Lucky for you, March and April are right around the corner and all rail cars will be washed on the inside and outside.