chicagocubs6323 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 4:13 PM, artthouwill said: The problem is which way do you run the trains through the Loop. I suppose Lake and Wabash in both directions, but many riders on both lines use Wells and Van Buren stations. I suppose those Brown Line passengers can transfer to Purples at Mdse Mart. Orange Line riders can transfer at Adams and Wabash to Pink or Purple trains. The other problem is frequency. Peak Orange Line trains run erry 7 to 8 minutes while peak Brown run every 3 minutes. Brownange trains run out of operational necessity. Both lines were designed to run around the Loop. Expand Here is an idea I made. This would also allow the Purple Line Express to add more trains without clogging the Loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 4:13 PM, artthouwill said: The problem is which way do you run the trains through the Loop. I suppose Lake and Wabash in both directions, but many riders on both lines use Wells and Van Buren stations. I suppose those Brown Line passengers can transfer to Purples at Mdse Mart. Orange Line riders can transfer at Adams and Wabash to Pink or Purple trains. The other problem is frequency. Peak Orange Line trains run erry 7 to 8 minutes while peak Brown run every 3 minutes. Brownange trains run out of operational necessity. Both lines were designed to run around the Loop. Expand On 12/19/2019 at 5:14 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: Here is an idea I made. This would also allow the Purple Line Express to add more trains without clogging the Loop. Expand I think I had similar. My solution would've been to run Wells and Van Buren full time to offset the Green Line. Pink & Purple Lines would've then operated clockwise in the Loop. To address frequency issues, some Brownage trains could just short turn in the loop, also running clockwise (while full Brownage would run Wells & Van Buren both directions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javi78 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 10:05 PM, NewFlyerMCI said: I think I had similar. My solution would've been to run Wells and Van Buren full time to offset the Green Line. Pink & Purple Lines would've then operated clockwise in the Loop. To address frequency issues, some Brownage trains could just short turn in the loop, also running clockwise (while full Brownage would run Wells & Van Buren both directions) Expand That would actually work the best, because on the current brown line, from what I’ve seen the busiest loop stations for the brown line are Washington/Wells and Quincy. When I ride the brown line in the AM rush to school Downtown, the fully packed brown line train empties almost completely at Washington/Wells and Quincy. Then of course in the PM rush when the brown line comes around to State and Lake the train is packed to almost capacity. I’m not sure about the busiest loop stops on the orange line though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javi78 Posted December 19, 2019 Report Share Posted December 19, 2019 When I’m in the loop during both and AM and PM rush periods, from what I see the orange line runs at the same frequency as the brown line. It’s almost an orange line train between every other inner loop train. The orange line even runs frequent in off peak periods too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 3119-3120 Blue>Brown 3421-3422 Brown>Blue 2989-2990 Blue>Brown 3407-3408? Brown>Blue (couple months ago) more to come as i see on on both routes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 8:45 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: 3119-3120 Blue>Brown 3421-3422 Brown>Blue 2989-2990 Blue>Brown 3407-3408? Brown>Blue (couple months ago) more to come as i see on on both routes Expand 50 more 3200 series cars are being added to the Blue Line while they trade in 50 2600s to the Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joechicago Posted January 22, 2020 Report Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 9:43 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: 50 more 3200 series cars are being added to the Blue Line while they trade in 50 2600s to the Brown. Expand Ugh, we don’t need more of the crappy 2600s on the Brown line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 11:56 PM, joechicago said: Ugh, we don’t need more of the crappy 2600s on the Brown line. Expand Whiny Ravenswood people, like a friend of mine says. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 11:56 PM, joechicago said: Ugh, we don’t need more of the crappy 2600s on the Brown line. Expand They will get less work and last longer on the Brown Line rather than the Blue Line 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 9:43 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: 50 more 3200 series cars are being added to the Blue Line while they trade in 50 2600s to the Brown. Expand chances of me catching a 3200 on blue is getting higher then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 2:22 AM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: chances of me catching a 3200 on blue is getting higher then Expand Instead of 12 eight car consists there will be 18 eight car consists on the Blue Line. Don't forget the 2 5000s consists that run during the rush periods. Even so, half of the route is still 2600s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 10:55 AM, artthouwill said: Instead of 12 eight car consists there will be 18 eight car consists on the Blue Line. Don't forget the 2 5000s consists that run during the rush periods. Even so, half of the route is still 2600s. Expand had a 5000 last night #320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 12:30 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: had a 5000 last night #320 Expand Sounds like the rush hour 54th tripper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 12:30 PM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: had a 5000 last night #320 Expand Is run #320 recent? Last time I checked the PM runs were runs #318 and #321. After their Blue Line trips, the operators do Pink Line loopers for the rest of the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 2:40 AM, chicagocubs6323 said: Is run #320 recent? Last time I checked the PM runs were runs #318 and #321. After their Blue Line trips, the operators do Pink Line loopers for the rest of the night. Expand 318 and 320 are PM rushers 318 and 321 are mornings or is it 321 322? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm522 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 3:02 AM, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said: 318 and 320 are PM rushers 318 and 321 are mornings or is it 321 322? Expand I THINK it’s chronological. 308/309 AM, 319/320PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 3:27 AM, ajm522 said: I THINK it’s chronological. 308/309 AM, 319/320PM Expand Run numbers are chronological based on pull out times On 1/24/2020 at 2:40 AM, chicagocubs6323 said: Is run #320 recent? Last time I checked the PM runs were runs #318 and #321. After their Blue Line trips, the operators do Pink Line loopers for the rest of the night. Expand Also these runs do to blue line trips and go back to 54th. They dont do pink line runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 3:27 AM, ajm522 said: I THINK it’s chronological. 308/309 AM, 319/320PM Expand 318/320 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 4:20 AM, Sam92 said: Also these runs do to blue line trips and go back to 54th. They dont do pink line runs Expand Yes they do. They do Pink Line runs after that. Pay attention when you ride the Pink Line. You will see run #318 and #321 at around 8pm. Same goes for in the morning. When #308 and #309 come back to 54th, the operators of those trains do Pink Line runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 12:53 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: Yes they do. They do Pink Line runs after that. Pay attention when you ride the Pink Line. You will see run #318 and #321 at around 8pm. Same goes for in the morning. When #308 and #309 come back to 54th, the operators of those trains do Pink Line runs. Expand First off. #308 and #309 is not a run that does blue line service. All runs are 318-322 second as part time trippers these definitely are dedicated for crowd relief on blue line and go out of service at racine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam92 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 12:53 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: Yes they do. They do Pink Line runs after that. Pay attention when you ride the Pink Line. You will see run #318 and #321 at around 8pm. Same goes for in the morning. When #308 and #309 come back to 54th, the operators of those trains do Pink Line runs. Expand Never mind they rearranged since they first started this. Basically first few picks these were extras similar to the 26 south shore expansion now the schedule incorporates them better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocubs6323 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 1:34 PM, Sam92 said: Never mind they rearranged since they first started this. Basically first few picks these were extras similar to the 26 south shore expansion now the schedule incorporates them better Expand I know. You went to the Chicago L group on Facebook to ask the same question I just answered for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 1:23 PM, Sam92 said: First off. #308 and #309 is not a run that does blue line service. All runs are 318-322 second as part time trippers these definitely are dedicated for crowd relief on blue line and go out of service at racine Expand 308 309 on the AM, 318 320 on the PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted January 24, 2020 Report Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 2:08 PM, chicagocubs6323 said: I know. You went to the Chicago L group on Facebook to ask the same question I just answered for you. Expand lmaoooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted January 25, 2020 Report Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 11:56 PM, joechicago said: Ugh, we don’t need more of the crappy 2600s on the Brown line. Expand But as mentioned above, the less demanding operations of the Brown Line will help the cars. More downtime might equal more fixing and shop TLC too. And Blue Line riders have had more than their fare share of riding the 2600s for long periods of time. I rode them from mid 2012 to late 2013 and even then they were a bit worn unfortunately. On 1/23/2020 at 12:45 AM, chicagocubs6323 said: Whiny Ravenswood people, like a friend of mine says. Expand But I'm sure people on this forum know the Blue Line has an equally vocal critic of the older rolling stock... On 1/24/2020 at 3:27 AM, ajm522 said: I THINK it’s chronological. 308/309 AM, 319/320PM Expand Chronological. Run numbers are ordered by which run will end first in the day (for example, if run 309 ended before 308, you might actually see it head for the Blue Line first!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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