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1000-1002 back to 103rd. 1003-1004 still at 77th last report.

Andrethebusman you seem to have a lot of insight about These type of things so why is 103rd short of buses and what's with all these bus switches that's been going on lately?? It's like buses are all over the place.

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So pretty much Cta couldn't work out the scheduling conflict with Ford?

CTA pretty much has to run a fixed schedule, same time every week. Only way would have been to have X98 run as an extra. And even then, this might not have been practical as different suppliers have different schedules from each other week to week. If you have five support industries in the area, there is no reason to think all will work the same amount of hours each week. It all depends on who supplies what to Ford.

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Andrethebusman you seem to have a lot of insight about These type of things so why is 103rd short of buses and what's with all these bus switches that's been going on lately?? It's like buses are all over the place.

Basically, there seems to have been a major miscalculation made as to manpower and equipment requirements this last system pick. 500's were retired without replacement (that's 45 buses, poof! with most from 103rd where they were in fact used daily all the way to the end) and south side garages were allocated way fewer drivers than needed which resulted in many runs not going out last couple of months. For instance, their "performance metrics" for April show 44 runs missed at 74th, 30 at 77th, 29 at 103rd, but ) at FG, 2 at NP, 3 Kedzie. 4 Chicago. Now blowing a couple of runs a month is pretty normal, but 44? Come on! Remember, this is ENTIRELY missed, not a first or second half only, or everything except the last tri[p, but 100% not out there that day. It's like after the Red Line Shuttle operations ended somebody just thought, OK, we added so many drivers to these garages and so many buses, we just take away the same number and all will be OK. But nobody thought that ALL garages ended up with more buses and drivers in that period, and the other four were not reduced, so they are doing all right, but those three are now badly short. Result is a hiring binge has started, with new ones going to the south side barns, and 7900's probably ending up at south side garages too (and not too many 6400's going away as the 500's still have to be replaced first).

Entire series of buses moving between garages on a frequent basis is not historically unusual, though. For instance, almost half the 3000-3239 Flxibles started at Archer, but moved to 77th when the 3500's came in. Or 1969, when all of 69th Macks went to Forest Glen, then a few months later all were traded to 77th for 5900's. Other than the mass movement of 4300's from 77th and Chicago to North Park, and 6400's from 77th to 74th and FG, you really have only had small groups bouncing around as garages get more or less desperate for buses.

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...500's were retired without replacement (that's 45 buses, poof! ..

You are forgetting that part of the announcement of retirements of 500s and 6400s was that the replacements included the 100 artics initially purchased because of the Red Line South project (but not said for the Red Line until that project was completed).

I don't know how many total buses have been lost through apparently retiring 900s, head on collisions, and the like, and how big a pool is being retained for covering rehabs, but the 500s shouldn't have caused any shortage. The only question seems to be how many artics are needed at NP vs. elsewhere. Apparently, now 79th can get by with half artics (apparently a higher proportion off peak).

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so why is 103rd short of buses and what's with all these bus switches that's been going on lately?? It's like buses are all over the place.

I think myself it's because first 103rd loses #1540-44 i believe without a replacement and then they have this issue of alot of artics that are down for repair. Then they send #1000-04 away without a replacement and they wonder why are they short? I don't think it's really the #500's being gone. They mostly stayed at the garage.

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I think myself it's because first 103rd loses #1540-44 i believe without a replacement and then they have this issue of alot of artics that are down for repair. Then they send #1000-04 away without a replacement and they wonder why are they short? I don't think it's really the #500's being gone. They mostly stayed at the garage.

I thought they had a replacement for 1000-1004 which was 4172-4176.

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I think that addressed the artic problems a little, but it didn't address the 40 footers. Maybe that's why #1000-02 came back.

1000 may go back to 77th the reason why I said that is cause 77th are very quick at putting the 7 stickers in their buses. I had 1000 today for my morning route on the 29 and the 03 sticker is gone.

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CTA pretty much has to run a fixed schedule, same time every week. Only way would have been to have X98 run as an extra. And even then, this might not have been practical as different suppliers have different schedules from each other week to week. If you have five support industries in the area, there is no reason to think all will work the same amount of hours each week. It all depends on who supplies what to Ford.

That really does makes a lot of sense. Did you think it was a bad idea that Cta created this route for this plant?

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1000 may go back to 77th the reason why I said that is cause 77th are very quick at putting the 7 stickers in their buses. I had 1000 today for my morning route on the 29 and the 03 sticker is gone.

That's my theory that is a loan from 77th to 103rd BUT as everyone says stickers really mean nothing. The fact that it's missing could just be an oversight.

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Something caught my eye about #6518 servicing #80 yesterday afternoon. The bus has an LED display in the front rather than the backlit flip dot, but the LED's where really bright, like a white LED. If so, when did this happen, and did this bus receive a rehab for it(as far as I knew, the LED retrofitted Novas got amber LED's)?

Not really sure about that number since it was hours ago and I had lots to do last night... it might've been 6517 or 6518. It was one of them, however. I remember that 6515 had a LED and this bus was in the 65-teens and was past 6515 numerically.

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Something caught my eye about #6518 servicing #80 yesterday afternoon. The bus has an LED display in the front rather than the backlit flip dot, but the LED's where really bright, like a white LED. If so, when did this happen, and did this bus receive a rehab for it(as far as I knew, the LED retrofitted Novas got amber LED's)?

Not really sure about that number since it was hours ago and I had lots to do last night... it might've been 6517 or 6518. It was one of them, however. I remember that 6515 had a LED and this bus was in the 65-teens and was past 6515 numerically.

If I'm not mistaking, the LED on #6518 has been there for a while. #6441 has the LEDs also in which it was very weird how all three of them got the LEDs.
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If I'm not mistaking, the LED on #6518 has been there for a while. #6441 has the LEDs also in which it was very weird how all three of them got the LEDs.

6441 was attributed to a test of another manufacturer. There was also 6515, which had color LEDs for the longest time. See, for instance, starting around here.*

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6441 was attributed to a test of another manufacturer. There was also 6515, which had color LEDs for the longest time. See, for instance, starting around here.*

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*With the change of forum software, unfortunately the links in old posts don't work.

Both buses had LED destinations since delivery #6441 was a pilot of the #6709's that were still coming at the time. #6515 was an experiment initially with color destination signs, then later it was retrofitted with the amber signs. There might be a picture of it with the color destinations on here (just the number part of the front sign was colorized) #6518 was like that since it's days at 77th, I believe about 1-2 years ago at least.

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