artthouwill Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Javi75 said: Anybody think CRRC is going to switch up the interior color on later 7000s like when the rest of the 5000s were blue interior cars. Anything is possible, bur I think if they wanted to introduce a new interior color, they would have done so already. I wasn't a fan of the blue on the 5000s and I don't think many people liked it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, chicago transut authority said: light green interior. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 I saw 7021-7022 last night at Rosemont Yard. The highest car numbers I’ve seen so far out there. There’s a good amount of 7000s in the yard too, enough to make up two or three Blue Line trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/19/2022 at 9:49 AM, chicago transut authority said: the 7000-series railcar will also be assigned to the purple line during rush hour from brown line. What’s the purpose if they have the 5000s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 hours ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said: I saw 7021-7022 last night at Rosemont Yard. The highest car numbers I’ve seen so far out there. There’s a good amount of 7000s in the yard too, enough to make up two or three Blue Line trains. Three sets of 8-car trains will give us 24 cars total? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 8 hours ago, MTRSP1900-CTA3200 said: I saw 7021-7022 last night at Rosemont Yard. The highest car numbers I’ve seen so far out there. There’s a good amount of 7000s in the yard too, enough to make up two or three Blue Line trains. Seeing that 7011 and 7012 are in China, the most cars CTA would have is 20 of the 7000 series. That equals 2 seta of 8 car consists and one 4 car consist. Considering the final assembly plant is here, deliver are awfully sliw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, artthouwill said: Seeing that 7011 and 7012 are in China, the most cars CTA would have is 20 of the 7000 series. That equals 2 seta of 8 car consists and one 4 car consist. Considering the final assembly plant is here, deliver are awfully sliw. In China I thought they was being built here in the city in the Pullman or west Pullman hood from what the news said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strictures Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Shannoncvpi said: In China I thought they was being built here in the city in the Pullman or west Pullman hood from what the news said They are being built in Chicago. The sole reason to send them to China would be to show them off to their bosses in China, but that still doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busfan2847 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 9 hours ago, strictures said: They are being built in Chicago. The sole reason to send them to China would be to show them off to their bosses in China, but that still doesn't make any sense. It was reported that 7011 shell was damaged in shipment and was shipped back to China. Car shells are manufactured in China, transported by ships to Los Angeles or Houston, and then by trucks to Chicago to be completed at the CRRC Sifang America plant. 70% of the total cost of the car components come from U.S. manufacturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said: In China I thought they was being built here in the city in the Pullman or west Pullman hood from what the news said The car shells are built in China. The shells are then shipped to Chicago for assembly. They are assembled in the Hegewisch neighborhood on the far southeast side of the city, near the Ford Assembly Plant around 126th and Torrence. Body damage happened to 7011 while being delivered from the plant to Skokie Shops. Therefore those cars were shipped back to China for body shell damage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTRSP1900-CTA3200 Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 17 hours ago, Bus1883 said: Three sets of 8-car trains will give us 24 cars total? True. Though they could already have car numbers higher than that at Rosemont and I just didn’t see them. All the 7000s there were off to the side by the O’Hare bound track and the way they were lined up meant that I couldn’t get all the car numbers there. It’s still progress though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Pate Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 At 10 cars per month, it will take more than 3 years to complete the base order of the 7000-series (400 cars). This means that the 2600-series will be in service until about late-2025. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Rhys Pate said: At 10 cars per month, it will take more than 3 years to complete the base order of the 7000-series (400 cars). This means that the 2600-series will be in service until about late-2025. At that rate, and assuming VTA exercises all options, the 3200s won't be finished until the end of 2026 or beginning of 2027 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 7 hours ago, artthouwill said: The car shells are built in China. The shells are then shipped to Chicago for assembly. They are assembled in the Hegewisch neighborhood on the far southeast side of the city, near the Ford Assembly Plant around 126th and Torrence. Body damage happened to 7011 while being delivered from the plant to Skokie Shops. Therefore those cars were shipped back to China for body shell damage. God dam can't nothing be made here in the US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted August 21, 2022 Report Share Posted August 21, 2022 18 hours ago, strictures said: They are being built in Chicago. The sole reason to send them to China would be to show them off to their bosses in China, but that still doesn't make any sense. Can't nothing ever be completely built here in the US now for the last 20 years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artthouwill Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, Shannoncvpi said: God dam can't nothing be made here in the US In the U.S, we have A. High wages ( union scale pay) B. High taxes C. Expensive parts such as 1. Electrical components 2. U.S. made steel China, Mexico, India, the Philippines offer A. Lower wages B. Lower costs for parts C. Lower price tag for product or service US. Customers want the cheapest price. If that comes from a foreign entity. so be it. Foreigners support their own economy, regardless of cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcmetro Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Also, the American market for railcars is relatively small and every city has very different specs. For what it's worth, the CRRC cars meet the "Buy America" regulations set by the Federal Government. It's not that different of a set up than Bombardier, Siemens, Kawasaki, or Alstom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 15 hours ago, Tcmetro said: Also, the American market for railcars is relatively small and every city has very different specs. For what it's worth, the CRRC cars meet the "Buy America" regulations set by the Federal Government. It's not that different of a set up than Bombardier, Siemens, Kawasaki, or Alstom. Last time a joint purchase was made for railcars was Baltimore & Miami’s original rolling stock, I believe. After that, I don’t think any 2 agencies have gotten the same rolling stock, although many have gotten upgraded versions of previous ones. Light rail, otoh, has sort of seen semi-consistent homogenization for decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyerMCI Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 17 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said: God dam can't nothing be made here in the US Hey, at least CRRC didn’t try to IKEA their way in. Although I suppose they wouldn’t have gotten Daley’d like IKEA did since the plant isn’t within city limits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 17 hours ago, artthouwill said: In the U.S, we have A. High wages ( union scale pay) B. High taxes C. Expensive parts such as 1. Electrical components 2. U.S. made steel China, Mexico, India, the Philippines offer A. Lower wages B. Lower costs for parts C. Lower price tag for product or service US. Customers want the cheapest price. If that comes from a foreign entity. so be it. Foreigners support their own economy, regardless of cost. I know but it's just said how big companies really like working the shit out of people like slaves over there for pennies just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannoncvpi Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewFlyerMCI said: Hey, at least CRRC didn’t try to IKEA their way in. Although I suppose they wouldn’t have gotten Daley’d like IKEA did since the plant isn’t within city limits True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busjack Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 19 hours ago, Tcmetro said: Also, the American market for railcars is relatively small and every city has very different specs. For what it's worth, the CRRC cars meet the "Buy America" regulations set by the Federal Government. It's not that different of a set up than Bombardier, Siemens, Kawasaki, or Alstom. Chicago's problem is that the curves in the Loop limit the cars to 1892 dimensions. On the other hand, Boston's CRRC cars are supposedly based on a couple of Chinese models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cta5658 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 Any update on deliveries so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bus1883 Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 9/3/2022 at 9:04 AM, cta5658 said: Any update on deliveries so far? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.NewFlyer1051 Posted September 6, 2022 Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 9/4/2022 at 11:10 PM, Bus1883 said: No update as of 9/6/22 7019 being delivered tmrw 7022 delivered today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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