CTA Bus Garage Rosters

[Mr.NewFlyer1051]

2 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said:

Yea you got got a point bro some of 6 routes need em & they can share the route with 7 since 6 dont got the lifts for artics

that to but 6 operators can just bus to 77th pick up a artic send it on a 6 route like western, ashland, and 63rd i was on the western bus the other day man was it packed and then after the route send it back to 77th just like FG does on school trips with NP

[YoungBusLover]

5 hours ago, artthouwill said:

The easiest solution would be to retrifit theme lifts at 74th, but that seemingly won't happen.   I would then propose that 77th and 74th share the u, 9, and 79.  74th can send 49 ft bus on the 8 and 79, and 77th operators can operate artics on all three routes.  Furthermore I would gave NP operate some artics on the 49.

Add 63rd to that because even today there was a 15 minute gap between buses and there was already a full bus by the time it reached me at cottage grove. That was utterly ridiculous and hell even some of 74th's operators told me that they didn't know whether or not the 15 or less rule was still in effect which had me baffled knowing that the control center sends out reminders every 30 minutes to an hour via the clever cab about it.If I were the top brass I'd exchange the 8,43,51,and 52A for the 9,49,and 63. The only issue with Ashland is the designated relief point because I doubt any operator would want it at 79th and Ashland as unsafe as it is over there. I do like the idea of sharing the routes though even if they couldn't make a trade for them. 

[Shannoncvpi]

6 hours ago, Mr.NewFlyer1051 said:

that to but 6 operators can just bus to 77th pick up a artic send it on a 6 route like western, ashland, and 63rd i was on the western bus the other day man was it packed and then after the route send it back to 77th just like FG does on school trips with NP

Yea cuz C does the samething with K they help us out on the 12 & we help them out on the 66 & 7 help us out with the 120 & a few others

[YoungBusLover]

Just saw wrecker #210 towing #4207 NB on King Drive. #4207 is another boneyard lemon.

[Sam92]

7 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

Just saw wrecker #210 towing #4207 NB on King Drive. #4207 is another boneyard lemon.

Jumped from a high mileage garage to another so it got worked to death. Matter of fact this is its 2nd time at 77th after years at NP so I’m not surprised. 

[BusHunter]

On 8/20/2020 at 2:39 PM, YoungBusLover said:

Add 63rd to that because even today there was a 15 minute gap between buses and there was already a full bus by the time it reached me at cottage grove. That was utterly ridiculous and hell even some of 74th's operators told me that they didn't know whether or not the 15 or less rule was still in effect which had me baffled knowing that the control center sends out reminders every 30 minutes to an hour via the clever cab about it.If I were the top brass I'd exchange the 8,43,51,and 52A for the 9,49,and 63. The only issue with Ashland is the designated relief point because I doubt any operator would want it at 79th and Ashland as unsafe as it is over there. I do like the idea of sharing the routes though even if they couldn't make a trade for them. 

Yeah 63rd is pretty bad. First it gets hit at ashland, then the red line plus the ridership is good on the side streets like a #77. The #9 would be good with artics. They have the ridership for it easily plus it's a nice wide street. I know 79th/ashland is dicey so why not have direct pullouts. 77th isnt that far away what 12 blocks. Plus ashland is a good 2 and a half hour route so it should work. You could even combine it with something else. 

[YoungBusLover]

2 hours ago, BusHunter said:

Yeah 63rd is pretty bad. First it gets hit at ashland, then the red line plus the ridership is good on the side streets like a #77. The #9 would be good with artics. They have the ridership for it easily plus it's a nice wide street. I know 79th/ashland is dicey so why not have direct pullouts. 77th isnt that far away what 12 blocks. Plus ashland is a good 2 and a half hour route so it should work. You could even combine it with something else. 

What's even worse about 63rd is the designated relief point is at Ashland so lets say its at anytime of the AM/PM rush and there's no relief made, you're going to have a 15 minute headway turn into 30 minutes or more considering the fact that you have a full load waiting there along with more passengers waiting to go EB/WB. Going back to your other point, I wouldn't mind having direct pullouts because currently when operators from other garages come pick up buses to return back to there home garage some have runs for the pm rush and i've seen numerous runs for Ashland come out of 77th.If anything doing trippers would really help out whether it is local or express. 77th has the least amount of routes that have high ridership other than the obvious ones, sharing routes that need assistance would really help out the part timers in the times were in because getting less than 30 hours right now along with not getting overtime isn't going to cut it. We can only do VTA's for so long before there's some push back.

[YoungBusLover]

8 hours ago, Sam92 said:

Jumped from a high mileage garage to another so it got worked to death. Matter of fact this is its 2nd time at 77th after years at NP so I’m not surprised. 

It's sad because #4207 was OOS for several months and just to see it get towed back was quite funny to me hopefully it returns to service.

[Javi78]

On 8/20/2020 at 9:18 AM, artthouwill said:

The easiest solution would be to retrifit theme lifts at 74th, but that seemingly won't happen.   I would then propose that 77th and 74th share the u, 9, and 79.  74th can send 49 ft bus on the 8 and 79, and 77th operators can operate artics on all three routes.  Furthermore I would gave NP operate some artics on the 49.

It would be really hard to run artics on the 9 no matter what, that right hand turn off Ashland on to Irving park on the NB 9 is a difficult turn for just a 40 foot bus. Sometimes its next to impossible for drivers to clear that turn. 

[artthouwill]

1 minute ago, Javi78 said:

It would be really hard to run artics on the 9 no matter what, that right hand turn off Ashland on to Irving park on the NB 9 is a difficult turn for just a 40 foot bus. Sometimes its next to impossible for drivers to clear that turn. 

I know Irving Park is narrow there and is very congested.  If Clark wasn't so close, I would consider extending the 9 to Clark and Arthur.   But I know that turnaround is full with the 36, 59, and 151.

[Shannoncvpi]

4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

It's sad because #4207 was OOS for several months and just to see it get towed back was quite funny to me hopefully it returns to service.

Man thats messed up but when it comes from run gargae that run it on a reg to go to another that does the same things like this will happen

[Shannoncvpi]

4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

What's even worse about 63rd is the designated relief point is at Ashland so lets say its at anytime of the AM/PM rush and there's no relief made, you're going to have a 15 minute headway turn into 30 minutes or more considering the fact that you have a full load waiting there along with more passengers waiting to go EB/WB. Going back to your other point, I wouldn't mind having direct pullouts because currently when operators from other garages come pick up buses to return back to there home garage some have runs for the pm rush and i've seen numerous runs for Ashland come out of 77th.If anything doing trippers would really help out whether it is local or express. 77th has the least amount of routes that have high ridership other than the obvious ones, sharing routes that need assistance would really help out the part timers in the times were in because getting less than 30 hours right now along with not getting overtime isn't going to cut it. We can only do VTA's for so long before there's some push back.

I agree the last 2 weeks ive only got 33 hours like bro 2 weeks agot I had got 47 hours the week before then 40 but I roughly get between 23-35 hours 

[artthouwill]

4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

What's even worse about 63rd is the designated relief point is at Ashland so lets say its at anytime of the AM/PM rush and there's no relief made, you're going to have a 15 minute headway turn into 30 minutes or more considering the fact that you have a full load waiting there along with more passengers waiting to go EB/WB. Going back to your other point, I wouldn't mind having direct pullouts because currently when operators from other garages come pick up buses to return back to there home garage some have runs for the pm rush and i've seen numerous runs for Ashland come out of 77th.If anything doing trippers would really help out whether it is local or express. 77th has the least amount of routes that have high ridership other than the obvious ones, sharing routes that need assistance would really help out the part timers in the times were in because getting less than 30 hours right now along with not getting overtime isn't going to cut it. We can only do VTA's for so long before there's some push back.

What is the policy if its time for you to get relieved at a reluef point,  but your relief doesn't show?  Do you wait and our yiyr passengers in the next bus?  If so, do you pull in?  Do you inform  CTA control?  Do they provide instructions like wait or continue the run?  I doubt this is a rule, but I've experienced a driver leaving the bus at the end of his shift.  Fortunately his relief showed, but that was 15 minutes after the first driver left.  By this time, the follower was right behind us.

It's probably too expensive,  but if possible,  it would be nice if each CTA garage had its own radio frequency in addition to the current channels.  That way,  a garage could communicate to its driver if a relief is running late or a no show.

[BusHunter]

7 hours ago, Javi78 said:

It would be really hard to run artics on the 9 no matter what, that right hand turn off Ashland on to Irving park on the NB 9 is a difficult turn for just a 40 foot bus. Sometimes its next to impossible for drivers to clear that turn. 

Well from my experience, it wouldnt be too hard of a turn because your coming from a wide street just keep away from the curb cut it as wide as you can get and if you get close to the left turn cars they will move for you. They dont want to get hit either. Theres one turn I make which is hair raising one lane side street to one lane side street and to top it off theres a crosswalk crossing sign so you cant cheat. I find myself angling about 65 to 70 degrees and just going into the other lane until I can clear the obstructions of the turn. Theres a telephone pole on the Rt side too. 

I was told on here once that instructors claim the artics are easier to turn because your turning 2 30 foot sections but like for me it's definitely not good making that turn as a complete rookie to artics. Experience is your teacher. When I first started I told all my instructors how they just whip around the corners. I find myself doing that now but of course thats at a wide turn. 

[andrethebusman]

I will confirm artics easier to turn. 60 footer turns like 35 footer as trailer follows where middle axle goes. Middle clears, so will tail.

[BusHunter]

They once had a hard turn when they were doing construction on Addison. It was a few years ago, well maybe 5 plus. It was an Addison Eb to Oak Park Sb. They were running the artics then. Addison is wide, not the widest, but Oak Park you have that one lane issue again cause it's very narrow. Turned out the artics made that turn. It was a 40 foot bus that rubbed the light pole on the right side. There are a few tricky turns around. Was riding a #54A once, when the sb bus crossing the Metra tracks north of Montrose rubbed his lower molding right off the Nova bus he was driving. So i watched other drivers what they do. They take both lanes into the turn. This guy who rubbed off his molding right behind the back door turned his bus keeping it in the far right lane. You know when I take my bus through there I use both lanes myself. If I have to block traffic or wait it out, it's worth not having an accident.

[artthouwill]

1 hour ago, BusHunter said:

They once had a hard turn when they were doing construction on Addison. It was a few years ago, well maybe 5 plus. It was an Addison Eb to Oak Park Sb. They were running the artics then. Addison is wide, not the widest, but Oak Park you have that one lane issue again cause it's very narrow. Turned out the artics made that turn. It was a 40 foot bus that rubbed the light pole on the right side. There are a few tricky turns around. Was riding a #54A once, when the sb bus crossing the Metra tracks north of Montrose rubbed his lower molding right off the Nova bus he was driving. So i watched other drivers what they do. They take both lanes into the turn. This guy who rubbed off his molding right behind the back door turned his bus keeping it in the far right lane. You know when I take my bus through there I use both lanes myself. If I have to block traffic or wait it out, it's worth not having an accident.

It seemed like it used to be standard practice for CTA buses to use both lanes when going under any RR viaduct. It amazes me that semis don't do the same.  Any large vehicle going through that particular viaduct on Cicero near Montrose should use both lanes.  

[YoungBusLover]

On 9/3/2020 at 3:59 PM, artthouwill said:

What is the policy if its time for you to get relieved at a reluef point,  but your relief doesn't show?  Do you wait and our yiyr passengers in the next bus?  If so, do you pull in?  Do you inform  CTA control?  Do they provide instructions like wait or continue the run?  I doubt this is a rule, but I've experienced a driver leaving the bus at the end of his shift.  Fortunately his relief showed, but that was 15 minutes after the first driver left.  By this time, the follower was right behind us.

It's probably too expensive,  but if possible,  it would be nice if each CTA garage had its own radio frequency in addition to the current channels.  That way,  a garage could communicate to its driver if a relief is running late or a no show.

Well the procedure is 5-10 minutes waiting for your relief, if they're not there within the scheduled grace period then you pretty much call control and they either will inform you to pull in the bus after giving your followers bus your passengers, continue in service to the end of the route then pull in or stand by for further instruction via supervision.We're suppose to wait for our relief to take control of our bus but some operators leave there bus and sometimes the relief may or may not show up after 5-10 minutes. Sometimes if control and the garage are in communication with eachother via telephone or radio they'll relay a message to the operator to inform them that they do not have a relief and usually were instructed to pull in from the terminal or go a certain distance before pulling in. Sometimes you'll see certain runs on 79th street heading eastbound from Ford City/Western with only the Wentworth destination sign displaying. I remember having to display the N87 destination after being notified that I wouldn't have a relief. 

[Shannoncvpi]

4 hours ago, YoungBusLover said:

Well the procedure is 5-10 minutes waiting for your relief, if they're not there within the scheduled grace period then you pretty much call control and they either will inform you to pull in the bus after giving your followers bus your passengers, continue in service to the end of the route then pull in or stand by for further instruction via supervision.We're suppose to wait for our relief to take control of our bus but some operators leave there bus and sometimes the relief may or may not show up after 5-10 minutes. Sometimes if control and the garage are in communication with eachother via telephone or radio they'll relay a message to the operator to inform them that they do not have a relief and usually were instructed to pull in from the terminal or go a certain distance before pulling in. Sometimes you'll see certain runs on 79th street heading eastbound from Ford City/Western with only the Wentworth destination sign displaying. I remember having to display the N87 destination after being notified that I wouldn't have a relief. 

I had to do that today on the 21 I aint have a relief they told me to wait for my follow bus give em my passengers & pull in to thw garage

[Shannoncvpi]

10 hours ago, BusHunter said:

They once had a hard turn when they were doing construction on Addison. It was a few years ago, well maybe 5 plus. It was an Addison Eb to Oak Park Sb. They were running the artics then. Addison is wide, not the widest, but Oak Park you have that one lane issue again cause it's very narrow. Turned out the artics made that turn. It was a 40 foot bus that rubbed the light pole on the right side. There are a few tricky turns around. Was riding a #54A once, when the sb bus crossing the Metra tracks north of Montrose rubbed his lower molding right off the Nova bus he was driving. So i watched other drivers what they do. They take both lanes into the turn. This guy who rubbed off his molding right behind the back door turned his bus keeping it in the far right lane. You know when I take my bus through there I use both lanes myself. If I have to block traffic or wait it out, it's worth not having an accident.

i did that once had to detour onto a narrow street due to a shooting on the route I had & a dope dealer had hit car double parked had nice rims & all on it when I nut he told me to wait & ran in I guess the dope house & I said forget this I had end up side swiping his car tearing the back bumper off till this day that bus still got his paint transfer on it 

[BusHunter]

6 hours ago, Shannoncvpi said:

i did that once had to detour onto a narrow street due to a shooting on the route I had & a dope dealer had hit car double parked had nice rims & all on it when I nut he told me to wait & ran in I guess the dope house & I said forget this I had end up side swiping his car tearing the back bumper off till this day that bus still got his paint transfer on it 

The hardest turns are the ones into side streets in the city. But when they have the no parking signs by the curb you would be surprised how much easier it makes the turn. I've seen tons of buses either get into an accident or get stuck at the neva turn on west addison. They used to not have the no parking signs at the curb there. Whoa that made that turn something. Even now you might have an illegal parker there. Some times you have to draw the line and say I can't make that turn. Its when you force it you get in trouble. Seek the alternative. Better late than never. Lol!!

[Mr.cta85]

Lol the truth is it’s actually pretty easy to make that right turn on Irving Park and Ashland and it’s easy in both 40 and 60fter with me having done both before. When I was at 103rd a about 6yrs ago they used us a shuttle/gap buses from Madison to Irving park to help the regular operators cause it was like a big concert there by lake and Ashland. So I did a route from basically 95th all the way up north and when I got the Irving park it’s the same way you would turn a 40fter just make sure you angle out enough to make the turn and you’re good.

[Shannoncvpi]

2 hours ago, BusHunter said:

The hardest turns are the ones into side streets in the city. But when they have the no parking signs by the curb you would be surprised how much easier it makes the turn. I've seen tons of buses either get into an accident or get stuck at the neva turn on west addison. They used to not have the no parking signs at the curb there. Whoa that made that turn something. Even now you might have an illegal parker there. Some times you have to draw the line and say I can't make that turn. Its when you force it you get in trouble. Seek the alternative. Better late than never. Lol!!

Yea you definitely right but since he was a dope dealer I aint even car & the route I was on I know alot of faces from my hustling days thats still out there from when I was a teen 

[Shannoncvpi]

1 hour ago, Mr.cta85 said:

Lol the truth is it’s actually pretty easy to make that right turn on Irving Park and Ashland and it’s easy in both 40 and 60fter with me having done both before. When I was at 103rd a about 6yrs ago they used us a shuttle/gap buses from Madison to Irving park to help the regular operators cause it was like a big concert there by lake and Ashland. So I did a route from basically 95th all the way up north and when I got the Irving park it’s the same way you would turn a 40fter just make sure you angle out enough to make the turn and you’re good.

Yea that's what I be doing but somettimes when you got cars parked where they not suppose to be parked it makes it harder

[YoungBusLover]

Welp I  just saw the aftermath of what #4090 got on Michigan and Jackson during my run tonight. The damage isn't to severe but it is noticeable on the drivers side. The windshield is almost shattered and the panels on the side of bent inwards. #210 has been pretty busy these last couple of weeks. #1783 is also in the boneyard and it appears that #6692 and #6699 are LTH for some reason. #1245 still hasn't moved so I'm assuming it's also LTH as well as it still has its farebox and ventra reader for now.